posted March 17, 2013 02:55 AM            

I already posted a topic in regards to most important planets in a chart, but I would love to hear how you determine this in a chart? There seem to be so many different approaches around.

Do you look at the ruling planet of the ascendant, the planet that's in opposition of the ascendant, a stellium, the most aspected planet or do you look at the pattern of the natal chart?
Second: how does a ruling planet effect an interpretation of a chart?

posted March 17, 2013 03:41 AM            

1) The ascendant Ruler.

2) The moon.

These are both #1 in my opinion with the acsendant ruler being only a teeeny bit more important than the moon.

posted March 17, 2013 04:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Mandy pie:
For example, Saturn aspects at 6 degrees will be a much stronger influence on a relationship than Jupiter aspects at 1 degrees.

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Really? And how is that?

I would definitely not pay much attention to a 6° Saturn aspect but Jupiter at 1° is strong! Jupiter moves faster than Saturn.

Or do you consider heavy (outer) planets to have a wider orb in synastry, than personal planets?

posted March 17, 2013 04:12 AM            

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If you go to astro.com (or astrowin? is another, I believe, that may have this application) - you can input your chart data and select Pullen's simple delineation from the drop down menu of additional charts. Which will calculate your strongest planets, houses, signs, elements, and mode. (Astro.com also has colour chart analysis - which is fairly similar - but includes Vesta, if I remember correctly... or Vesta and Chiron?) -- either way - you should try those out. =)

I believe I saw your chart in another thread here - to me it appears your strongest planets are Moon, Pluto/Venus. That could be wrong, but checking with Pullen will give you a much clearer idea of which are strongest.

What they do is look to the most aspected of each, the strongest placements for each/weakest... they give some percentage value to them based on their own criteria/formula. (which is different slightly, depending on which analysis you look to)

Chart ruler (the Asc ruler) and its placement and aspects are normally the most "important"... so to speak.

exalted, domicile, debilitated placements, strength based on aspects, reception, interception, nodes, angles....... all of these things play a role in reading a natal... they give an astrologer a sort of... first impression... or basis to how to read the rest of the chart of that person, a connection (some say psychological) - to me it's just the key on the map... ^^;

I hope this was of some use to you! Good luck!!! ~ <3

posted March 17, 2013 04:32 AM            

According to some tests (the Color horoscope on astro.com actually) it's Venus and Chiron (?) not sure how they came about that result.

But really, I don't know.

posted March 17, 2013 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Really? And how is that?

I would definitely not pay much attention to a 6° Saturn aspect but Jupiter at 1° is strong! Jupiter moves faster than Saturn.

Or do you consider heavy (outer) planets to have a wider orb in synastry, than personal planets?

Just curious.

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I don't consider outer planets to have a wider orb, but I do believe that Saturn should be allowed a wider orb than other planets. This is one thing that Me and Liz Green (astrologer) are both in agreement with.

posted March 17, 2013 08:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Mandy pie:
There are two most important planets in a chart.

1) The ascendant Ruler.

2) The moon.

These are both #1 in my opinion with the acsendant ruler being only a teeeny bit more important than the moon.

However in Synastry it works a bit differently- the most important planets though are the ones making the tightest aspects.... unless those making the tightest aspects are from weaker planets. For example, Saturn aspects at 6 degrees will be a much stronger influence on a relationship than Jupiter aspects at 1 degrees.

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Agreed. For me its Mercury and Moon.

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted March 17, 2013 09:11 AM            

I guess that was for me

But no! Mercury is an important part in my chart! It's just.. you know, trapped in between Moon, Venus, Saturn, and all the others

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Mandy,

Ohh alright, I see where you're coming from! Yep, can totally say that Saturn aspects are like a wet blanket most of the time!

I always wonder about Jupiter hard aspects in synastry, though.. I haven't had too much experience with them so I don't know if they bring anything "positive" or if all they do is add some (unwanted) indulgence / infatuation!

posted March 17, 2013 09:13 AM            

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Originally posted by venuasianman:
what does it mean when your sun and asc are the same?

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Basically the sign the ASC and the Sun are in would be extra strong / important for you and you'd probably readily express its traits. And.. you shine! (unless Sun is in the 12th.. then it's buried haha).

posted March 17, 2013 09:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Basically the sign the ASC and the Sun are in would be extra strong / important for you and you'd probably readily express its traits. And.. you shine! (unless Sun is in the 12th.. then it's buried haha).

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posted March 17, 2013 09:43 AM            

Whereas with Sun in the 1st, especially conjunct the ASC, the sign's qualities will be visible to others. The person will behave in a way that is true to their "core" self, that is, what you see is what you get with them, there's no pretense about who they are (unless the ASC/Sun are afflicted by outer planets, say Neptune - the person may delude others).