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Ceridwen
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posted March 17, 2013 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are the charts of a man and a woman (his time is known; hers is unknown).

The "event" took place in november 1995 (I don´t know which exact day, so I picked the 15th november).

his chart

her chart


the transits of the major players in november 1995:

Tr Jupiter: 16 Sag - 22 Sag
Tr Saturn: 18 Pisces - 18 Pisces
Tr Uranus: 26 Cap - 27 Cap
Tr Neptune: 23 Cap- 23 Cap
Tr Pluto: 29 Scorpio - 00 Sag
Tr NN: 26 Libra - 25 Libra
Tr Chiron: 7 Libra - 11 Libra


Maybe someone will have a guess as to :

1) What is the connection/ "relationship" between those two?

2) What happened in november 1995 between them?

EDIT:
Oh and please give an astrological reasoning for what you think.

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venuasianman
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posted March 17, 2013 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuasianman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
husband and wife. They were out in the fields having a cup of tea

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Doux Rêve
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posted March 17, 2013 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The man is the father of the woman and he died in Novemeber 1995..

His pJupiter conjunct nMoon, and tJupiter conjunct nASC.

tNeptune and tUranus sq MC/IC axis
tUranus / NN sq pSun


In her chart: tUranus sq nUranus
tPluto conjunct pSun (father's significator)
tChiron conjunct nSun
tSaturn trine nSaturn (?)


I'm not sure if they're parent and child but his 5th cusp is Taurus (Venus-ruled) and she's got a stellium in Libra (Venus ruled).
His Saturn squares her Moon (Saturn/Moon often present in parent/child relationships) and his Neptune falls on her Libra planets (I've also noticed a trend in families where Neptune is highlighted for some reason - idealization?).


That's my take on it.

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posted March 17, 2013 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venuasianman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The man is the father of the woman and he died in Novemeber 1995..

His pJupiter conjunct nMoon, and tJupiter conjunct nASC.

tNeptune and tUranus sq MC/IC axis
tUranus / NN sq pSun


In her chart: tUranus sq nUranus
tPluto conjunct pSun (father's significator)
tChiron conjunct nSun
tSaturn trine nSaturn (?)


I'm not sure if they're parent and child but his 5th cusp is Taurus (Venus-ruled) and she's got a stellium in Libra (Venus ruled).
His Saturn squares her Moon (Saturn/Moon often present in parent/child relationships) and his Neptune falls on her Libra planets (I've also noticed a trend in families where Neptune is highlighted for some reason - idealization?).


That's my take on it.


how do you know that he died?

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posted March 17, 2013 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't.. it's speculation!

But based on his progressed Jupiter (actually it even entered his 12th house if I'm seeing it right) and the transiting Jupiter (AND it rules his 12th/ASC..) I'd say there was some sort of "liberation" and this often takes the form of someone dying = entering the spiritual world, being set free.


Again, just speculating.
Might be something completely different!

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posted March 17, 2013 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux,

no, this is not what happened.
Though I want to point out that on a metaphysical level you could probably say that indeed a part of him "died".
I can`t go into it really just now, as I want to wait for some other takes on this.

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posted March 17, 2013 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You got me intrigued, now!

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posted March 17, 2013 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

12th house issues did come to pass, too, but a few weeks later.
I feel that the pr Saturn conjunct natal Pluto might also fit in the 12th house events later on, even though they are not tied to 12th house.


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posted March 17, 2013 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omygosh, stop teasing me! You're driving my Gem asc crazy with curiosity


: (im)patiently waits for answer :

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posted March 17, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 17, 2013 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 17, 2013 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not really all too ummm comfortable with interpreting these yet -

but I looked at the Man's psyche, and eros, and venus - and took into account transit jupiter, saturn, and pluto - only

then I checked with the young lady's juno, moon, and sun in contrast to the same and the man's...

(there's a bit more but I'm not good at explaining these things...)t__t; *frazzled*

To me... it looks like the loss of a female relative... his wife, possibly, and her mother...

(the moon for her - but his venus - her juno - his psyche) she has some comforting aspects - I feel - from neptune - so whatever happened - she must have been the support through it. ~

that's just my feeling after looking at those tiny things... ^^; (take it easy on me! Still learning!) <3

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posted March 17, 2013 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is she his mistress? He left his wife for her in November?

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posted March 18, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:
To me... it looks like the loss of a female relative... his wife, possibly, and her mother...


No. He wasn´t married at that time.


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posted March 18, 2013 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starfairy:
Is she his mistress? He left his wife for her in November?

What makes you say that astrologically?

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