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ueharaa
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posted March 19, 2013 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there such a thing?
If there is, what do you think indicates two people getting attached to each other (or one being to the other).
Are there aspects that indicate that they will miss each other if apart? (stupid I know but well some people are in love and yet they don't mind being away for a while)
Also wondering if there are some synastry aspects that indicate they would be on each other or one's mind a lot (more than the healthy usual amount)
Or is this more a natal chart type of thing?

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posted March 19, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to know what aspects in natal/synastry cause attachment issues cause I'm guilty of that

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posted March 19, 2013 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, nodal contacts indicate this. Particularly the south node. South node = past life connection. The feeling of comfort, familiarity, and closeness is hard to forget. There's nothing quite like it!

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posted March 19, 2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon opposition Moon
Venus opposition Venus
Moon opposition Venus

I'm saying this because people seem to get much more emotionally attached when the feminine planets are involved.

If we are talking positive aspects involving the Moon & Venus like the conjunction, trine and sextile.. there will usually not be much reason to miss each other - because you often remain friends and remain in contact.. even after a breakup.
With the square it's iffy... It can lead to people having a genuine dislike for the other - and maybe there isn't enough of an emotional connection to really miss them.
But with the opposition it is usually a close-knit relationship... that can end just because the people are too different or moving in opposite directions - but it still hurts and you still miss them.

It's almost as close as a conjunction - but with much more negative baggage.

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posted March 19, 2013 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Strong Pluto can indicate this sometimes. It can lead to obsession and possessiveness. The need to be physically close to one another is strong, and it can be very hard to let go. However, plutonian relationships can also end disastrously, too; you can easily end up hating each other! Lol

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posted March 20, 2013 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes!! Venus opp Venus I think is my problem. I always get attached to Pisces with Aries Venus :/

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posted March 20, 2013 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Haplesschild*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The two men I fell in love with, out of all the other men I've dated, both had their descendant smack bang on my tight moon and venus conjunction.

The most recent ex also had his south node exactly on my sun.

So angle conjunctions to node, to personal planets and node aspecting personal planets (sun, moon, venus)

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posted March 20, 2013 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From my experience, moon in aspect to pluto in synastry, but especially a square or double whammy. And obviously a venus mutually asecting pluto will also make that happen. And minor venus-pluto aspects do count. Also sun conjunct moon in synastry.

Usually love stelliums will make you miss someone, but for constant missing or someone who you really find it hard to do without, what i've noticed is the above.

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posted March 20, 2013 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey RAS,

I can attest to that.But would it be mutual?Would Pluto miss the Moon/Venus person also?

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posted March 20, 2013 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure:/

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I guess it would depend on other factors... aspects in the chart n stuff

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posted March 20, 2013 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it's definitely a mixture of Moon, Venus, Mercury, and to some extent, Neptune in synastry. I don't really do well with the square or opp with these planets. For me, a square or opp with those planets usually make me not like a woman romantically. I like harmony lol!

With Mercury, I noticed I respond extremely well with really tight trines and to a lesser extent, sextiles. I don't do well with Mercury squares.

If I have easy aspects with those planets with a woman, yup, I'd miss her!

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Moon needs to play a part probably, as it signifies emotional attachment.

Neptune sometimes is a vague longing; but this bonecrunching feeling of missing someone is more Plutonian.

(Venus-Pluto of course counts, too; but it is a different feeling)

So I definitely agree with RAS here.


As for minor aspects, so far I find the 5th, 7th and 8th harmonic series of aspects suprisingly valid (IF in very tight orb at least).

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posted March 20, 2013 08:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bf and i have moon trine pluto.


We meed to see eachother everday.

Its not over bearing type of energy.


Just needing to be around eachother.

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posted March 20, 2013 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know about synastry (honestly - besides our very closely inversed Asc/Desc axis and my Mars, NN, and Jupiter tightly trining his Mars/Venus conj and loosely trine his Moon/Neptune, our by-degree synastry's a mystery to me), but in composite we have Sun/Venus conj in the 4th.

Interps I've read have said that that would indicate a deep attatchment and a strong shared tendency to want to be physically together (bonus points for "at home and/or alone"), as I can say that I've really seen that play out.
Both of us independently decided that "Home" by Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes is one of our songs (minus the dumb spoken word bit), so that aspect also plays out in that way, too.
Subjectively, I can say that I feel emotionally all itchy when we're apart, and he's indicated the same.

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posted March 20, 2013 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's our synastry aspect grid for reference.
I usually reduce the orb significantly, but I kept the default so you can decide what to keep and what to toss.

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posted March 20, 2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it depends on what kind of attachment we're talking about.

There is the sweet, loving, affectionate type of energy which just makes you feel so comfortable around the other person because they make you feel good. That would be Moon & Venus aspects, especially to the other person's soft planets like Moon, Venus and Neptune.


Then there is the more insistent type of attachment, when you feel the urge to be with the other person, something that makes you feel tense and restless, borderline obsessive. I would associate this type of reaction to Pluto contacts with soft planets (Moon, Venus) and Moon or Venus in hard aspect to Mars.

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posted March 21, 2013 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if pluto is more about attachment or possessiveness.
Thinking a lot more than usual about the other person is definitely pluto as it is more obsession than attachment in some case. Also pluto can be quite melodramatic in that being with the other person becomes a life or death issue and yet you feel as tormented as you were when you actually are with them.

What I had in mind was more this urge, need to be with someone that makes you miss them and not forget them. The kind that makes you wish you could just hug them.

Does this sound like pluto? moon-venus?

I had never thought about the nodes being responsible for attachment but well it does make sense somehow. Especially yes the familiarity that creeps on you and which nothing compares to. I can definitely see some neptune at work for the longing part.

Could the IC be responsible too somehow? especially moon-IC or venus-IC

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posted March 21, 2013 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I don't know if pluto is more about attachment or possessiveness.
Thinking a lot more than usual about the other person is definitely pluto as it is more obsession than attachment in some case. Also pluto can be quite melodramatic in that being with the other person becomes a life or death issue and yet you feel as tormented as you were when you actually are with them.

What I had in mind was more this urge, need to be with someone that makes you miss them and not forget them. The kind that makes you wish you could just hug them.

Does this sound like pluto? moon-venus?

I had never thought about the nodes being responsible for attachment but well it does make sense somehow. Especially yes the familiarity that creeps on you and which nothing compares to. I can definitely see some neptune at work for the longing part.

Could the IC be responsible too somehow? especially moon-IC or venus-IC


Yes, definitely Moon/Venus connections. The energy is just really nice. I had Moon conjunct Venus in Cancer less than half a degree (I was Venus) with an Aqua girl and I still miss her sometimes. We had a great relationship but she had some issues that were deal breakers. That Moon/Venus energy was so prevalent between us.


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posted March 21, 2013 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Moon needs to play a part probably, as it signifies emotional attachment.

Neptune sometimes is a vague longing; but this bonecrunching feeling of missing someone is more Plutonian.

(Venus-Pluto of course counts, too; but it is a different feeling)

So I definitely agree with RAS here.


As for minor aspects, so far I find the 5th, 7th and 8th harmonic series of aspects suprisingly valid (IF in very tight orb at least).


Exactly. Moon aspects.

I do think u need some pluto somewhere as a rule. Or else the person won't matter much to you.

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posted March 21, 2013 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do agree that pluto aspects can be quite meaningful. Though I am not sure that anyone can handle them.
But I am still confused about them because pluto moves really slowly. I know you had a thread about this "when are pluto aspects meaningful" if I remember correctly.
To be honest part of me can't deny the influence of pluto for having experienced it, and yet, knowing that people who have such aspects natally yet don't end up having meaningful relationships with everyone from their generation makes me skeptical about it. I don't know how important pluto aspects are for igniting the "pull" between two people. I feel like axis aspects are much more potent at this (angles, nodes and vertex). And then pluto comes into play and emphasizes it, sustains it, defines heavily the relationship ? But I am sort of digressing here.

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posted March 02, 2014 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting

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posted March 02, 2014 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonstruck87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had sun, merc and venus in 8th house composite with my high school boyfriend - we were together for almost 8 yrs off and on

we both still text each other and "check in"

He is in a committed relationship now and has been for a few years, I've had a child with someone else and am single but we both can't really "let go"

Anything in 8H composite will be hard to let go - it's a deep, deep bond

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posted March 03, 2014 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you count tight minor aspects with these planets? There's been mention of Moon/Venus hard aspects. Would SemiSextile and Inconjunct count? Especially if they're tight? Would this have a similar effect?
I too have noticed Node-Personal planet aspects in relationships where I have felt attached. Compared to those who I didn't share that with. But it was just one aspect and I was comparing the only two relationships I'd had at the time.

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posted July 09, 2021 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted July 09, 2021 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The node or the planet person who feels it?

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