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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:03 PM
You add asteroids.------- I'm posting this here because it's more of a general subject that references asteroids. ------- Have any of you looked at relationships with lackluster synastries but nice composites? Over time, I've noticed interesting patterns with my and my husband's asteroids in synastry, but didn't think much of it. Then I threw 10 asteroids (the astro.com max) on and reduced the orb to 2 (20%): Have any of you noticed the same (or would you like to try)?
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1622 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:04 PM
I agree. IP: Logged |
starfairy Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 21, 2013 01:06 PM
What's Uranus opposite Venus like? I haven't seen it too much in marriages and yours is pretty tight
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KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1622 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:06 PM
Uranus conjunct ASC, Chiron conjunct DSC? Doesnt sound too appealing sounds too..crazy and painful. Maybe if ya like that if you have a dominate Air or Uranus i dunno lolIP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:09 PM
Dunno We're really happy, odd in complentary ways. Maybe it works because I have a 1h Uranus tightly trine my Sun and he has a 7h Uranus. *shrug* ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 1622 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Dunno We're really happy, odd in complentary ways. Maybe it works because I have a 1h Uranus tightly trine my Sun and he has a 7h Uranus. *shrug*
yup thats the spice
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:11 PM
^ re: Chiron: We were both really "injured" when we came into the relationship and have worked to heal one another quite a bit, actually.Edited to add: I figure it's played out like that. We have Chiron conj our Sun/Venus conj in the 4th in our composite, too. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Uranus conjunct ASC, Chiron conjunct DSC? Doesnt sound too appealing sounds too..crazy and painful. Maybe if ya like that if you have a dominate Air or Uranus i dunno lol
He's also a Gemini and I have an Aqua Moon in the 3rd. Weirdos ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:18 PM
But, c'mon - I don't want this to get kicked over to personal readings.Hs anyone else seen examples of this? ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5780 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:24 PM
No, I haven`t found that asteroids "elevate" an oomphless synastry to gold star status, though they detail the picture.However, what i have found is that people sometimes underestimate very important points in their synastry. For example: yours is definitely not a boring one. Just see this ASC-DESC-conjunction alone. And then I see Pluto, as ASC-ruler, on the NN. A Sun-Jupiter in 8th house, and Jupiter-Mars-NN- in 5th house in the other direction. MC-ruler conjunct the other`s MC - very nice for being able to build a life together, going into the same direction. Also, the composite probably has a Venus-Mars-sextile. The reason for its existence is that both people have a Venus-Mars-aspect natally (trine and conjunction).
It`s even possible that the Venus of the Venus-Mars-sextile falls into conjunction to both Venus-positions. It might even be more prominent, as the composite Venus is possibly squaring the composite ASC-DESC-axis, which might even trigger / conjunct the inner person`s Moon! The asteroids are of course giving some more colour to the whole package, some detailed informations, but the synastry itself shows that there are some core connections here.
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:37 PM
Yeah...I'm not yet good enough to get all of that Here's our composite since you brought it up: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/proxieme/91c999d0f751c6cf0c9873adb245a71a_zpsb49bc792.jpg This isn't a personal reading, though, Mods! ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:40 PM
You bring up a good point, though - sometimes we're just not experienced enough to see what's really there.------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5780 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: You bring up a good point, though - sometimes we're just not experienced enough to see what's really there.
That is what I truely believe. That we just have begun deciphering the languae of astrology, and much ofit is in a trial and error stage. It is like we have (most of) the words, yet we are still trying to compose them, so that whole sentences come together. ANd if they do, we are still looking for the grammatical law behind it. However, my working hypothis that I am pretty much convinced of is, that if there is strong activation (conjunction and opposition mostly, and tight orbed) of Sun, Moon, the angles, Vertex, nodal axis and their rulers, it indicates that to people are triggering something in the core of each other.
At the same time if these connections are completely missing, I wouldn´t place my bets on them becoming longterm partners and being "soulmates" (after all for being a soulmate you need to have a connection to each other`s soul, and the soul - in astrological tradition- is represented mainly by lunar symbolism). The same goes for the composite btw, which is just a composition of both natals after all. Then after having checked these basics, it is definitely very telling to look for the romantic vibes, be it through Venus and Mars, ruler of 5th and 8th and 7th house, or through asteroids. For example I find it quite interesting to see that in a composite with someone the NN is exactly conjunct Amor and Cupido, all three of them being on 20 Libra. I guess it must try to tell me something. However, it needs to be asessed against the backdrops of the luminaries and angles, and also how it triggers the natal charts. (in this case the compi nodal axis is squaring Moon and Venus, also making a midpoint configuration - instantly alerting me to the possibility that I might be dealing with a skipped step here, especially with that Moon-Venus being in 12th house. It is also interesting to note that the composite SN falls onto my natal Chiron, and the NN-Amor-Cupido conjuncts his natal Pluto. With composite Moon being conjunct my natal Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp and his Venus. How to decipher all of this? Well, honestly I haven`t yet dared to even tough on that. LOL
But what I want to say is that it is important to see any asteroid conjunctions in the tapestry of the whole chart, or at least of the pattern it is part of. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 5780 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 01:59 PM
As for your composite. See? As I assumed. lolI like how Venus is part of that pattern in your composite along with the Sun. As I think Venus or similiar symbols need to be involved for a soulconnection to become romantic. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 327 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted March 21, 2013 02:03 PM
wow, I am speachless.... Stunnedthe Sun, the Moon, Mercury , Venus and Mars for BOTH of you are NOT aspecting any of the other's planets. How on earth is that ever possible? I have never seen a synastry like that before in my life. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 02:18 PM
That's just with the orb down to 2 max.Here's the chart w/ it cranked back up: Ceri - Food for thought, and I'm going to reply more thoroughly later. For now, duty calls. ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 327 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted March 21, 2013 02:38 PM
Ah ok thats better. It was misleading.How do you feel your Moon in square to his Venus/Mars conj. ? I have this same aspect with someone new. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 04:20 PM
I can't say that I notice anything bad about it.We don't really fight (together for 4 years), but that may be in part because we're both prone towards intellectualizing and talking through our rare disagreements. Subjectively, I can say that I feel loved and appreciated, but I'm not sure how to separate that influence out from the rest of the synastry. Edited to add: I looked up description of those aspects and can't really say that I see either *except*, perhaps, some codependency - we joke that it's not bad if both people like it, though We're not restless around each other (Mars/Moon) -'in fact, a pretty pronounced issue for us is that we'll be doing chores, start talking, get deep into conversation, and then a couple of hours have evaporated. For Venus/Moon, don't know what to say. We both compliment the heck out of each other and are always telling the other about something that we appreciate about them. We both had some pretty awful relationships before this one, though, so it's very much a thing we *do* rather than "let happen". It's only been 4 years, though - perhaps we'll come to take each other for granted ------------------ If I've included this sig, it's because I'm posting from a mobile device. Please excuse all outrageous typos and confusing auto-corrects. IP: Logged |
starfairy Knowflake Posts: 601 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 21, 2013 04:35 PM
I agree with Ceridwen that your chart has a lot of good stuff. You aren't missing the 'oomph', so don't worry! lolI notice he has Venus and Mars conjunct his South node in his natal, and your Pluto is conjunct his North Node and opposite his Venus and Mars. That's pretty powerful. His Saturn is square your Venus. I know how that one is! lol It can be a little cold, but it's not thaaat bad. Especially since your Neptune is on his Moon and trine his Venus/Mars. I really like your Jupiter/Mars trine his Venus/Mars. That's a blessing for any relationship. IP: Logged |
ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 225 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 21, 2013 04:50 PM
Hola,I wish my synastry chart looked that interesting or moreso compatible smh But hey, maybe, I will have someone soon who will be this intriguing. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 04:50 PM
Thanks!I guess it really just goes to show that looking deeper pays off. Ceri - I agree re: not knowing the whole language yet. I have the feeling that if we knew what to look for, we could know all there is to know about ourselves and this life - but where's the fun in that? As it is, I'll settle for knowing that all of existence is contained within and reflected by (and, conversely, reflects and manifests) its components.
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 04:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure: Hola,I wish my synastry chart looked that interesting or moreso compatible smh But hey, maybe, I will have someone soon who will be this intriguing.
We both kissed a few frogs along the way
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ELoveCherishEndure Knowflake Posts: 225 From: Nyack, New York, USA Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 21, 2013 04:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: [QUOTE]Originally posted by ELoveCherishEndure: [b]Hola,I wish my synastry chart looked that interesting or moreso compatible smh But hey, maybe, I will have someone soon who will be this intriguing.
We both kissed a few frogs along the way [/B][/QUOTE]
LOL I finished your reading... So, tell me if I missed what you were looking for or if I was on point with it. But I would show you my synastry chart but it is lackluster.
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mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 1407 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted March 21, 2013 05:57 PM
Oh!*hops on over* re: the synastry: If you want to post it over in personal readings, we can try to pick our way through it. I'm not expert, but two (or however many want to join in) heads and all. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 1558 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 21, 2013 07:22 PM
Oppositions are nice in synastry. It gives that sizzleAs they say opposites attract IP: Logged |