posted March 21, 2013 10:43 PM
When I was first getting into Astrology, I was a Pro-Pisces fan. If you seen my posts in other sites under the various different aliases I had, I was ranting about how great Pisces is, specifically our blessed beauty and our dreamy personality . Why I had three older usernames I've abandoned for good (actually one of them I still use for DeviantArt but I plan to change it)that had "Pisces" in it.Once I started getting into deeper Astrology I began to scoff and despise at "Sun Sign Astrology". You all seen one of my first thread here .
So I completely began to saw Sun Signs as useless and even started bashing the general public's view of Astrology (a la Sun Signs is what most people only know) in various forums.
Recently after observing the natal charts of several friends for whom I calculated theirs as well as mine, I began to start rethinking my Astrological theories.
Now as an introduction there are two seperate camps in Astrology-the readers of Newspaper Astrology and the serious enthusiasts.
The former only know about Sun Signs and think thats all there is to Astrology. For those who fit in the latter category who know of their Moon and Ascendant, they still think that the Sun Sign is the most important part of the chart. I seen some go as far stating its the Soul.
The latter (who make up much of this forum) generally tend to hold the simplistic view of the Zodiac Signs in contempt, saying Sun Signs alone is useless. I seen so many in the latter in plenty of Astrology Forums state the Moon Signs and Rising Signs are faaarrr more important than the Sun Signs, and the Sun Signs is practically the most useless.
I was on both sides in my amateur career into Astrology (you all pretty much seen my stage in life when I was the latter).
After reading the natal chart of a friend of mine who's an Aries with a Libra Moon and Cancer Rising, I began to wonder.
He may have a Cancer Ascendant and Libra Moon and portray traits of those placements, but all in all he's an Aries personality at the core.
I just checked his chart and in addition to his Sun, his Mercury and Mars are in Aries. All his Aries are aspected especially the Sun which is among the strongest Aspected in his whole chart.
I saw his percentages and he is Aries Dominant 20%.
In fact before I told him more about Astrology beyond Sun Sign, he felt he pretty much the Aries Personality spot on esp. the Militaristic personality (he was a Paratrooper in Vietnam and Military was among his primary careers in life).
However I also checked a siblings chart and sibling is Saggie Rising. Saggie planets in charts are dominant with Jupiter as Dominant Planet at 15.8% and his Pluto (also in Saggie) was the third dominant planet at 12.8%.
Sagittarius dominates the chart by a whopping 17.5%.
Trust me you could not imagine sibling was either a Virgo or Capricorn Moon if you met Sibling.
However a friend of mine in DeviantArt checked her percentages. Turns out her Capricorn planets (3 IIRC including Saturn) were dominant and she was a Capricorn Dominant 20%. She doesn't have an Earth Sign for her Basic 3s so this surprised both of us.
As I relooked at my chart, my Sun (in Pisces) is my 2nd Dominant Planet at 14.1%.
Pisces Sun is far away from a dominant sign, being fifth dominant. However when I look at my Sun I can see why I had so many Piscean traits all my life-especially the negatives like Escapism.Which isn't surprising considering all the Aspects my Sun has especially that Quincunx between Sun and Moon (Leo).
My father is a Leo-Virgo-Scorpio Dominant (which was really surprising because he is a Capricorn Moon, Sagittarius Sun, and Taurus Rising).
After looking at the charts of several people I calculated as well as revisiting mine, I have gone in between the two parties.
My conclusion: How important the Sun is DEPENDS on an individuals charts particularly how aspected it is, what house its in, the percentages of the signs, and what other placements are in the same sign as sun.
In my case I'm a Scorpio Dominant with Aquari a near second place (Pluto breaks the stalemate and makes me a Scorpio dominant in the end). However my chart shows my Pisces Sun is a VERY STRONG influence, being the second dominant planet and while Percentage wise Pisces is distant from being a close third place, I have my Venus in Pisces and my Pisces placements are all very strongly aspected so the influence cannot be denied.
In addition I'm a Pisces Decan Scorpio Riser.
So Pisces is a VERY STRONG INFLUENCE.
In fact when I first calculated my percentages I was truly shocked Pisces wasn't among my top 3 and Capricorn was tied with Leo as third dominant Sign. Leo didn't suprise me but Capricorn did-I was at the very least expecting Pisces to make it third or at least tie third with another sign and I was not expecting Capricorn to be such a powerful influence in my chart.
I began to discredit Pisces at that point.
But as I study my Aspects and my Planetary Percentages, I hav eindeed realized Pisces is ONE of the most powerful influences in my chart afterall (if not then at least my Sun is).
I know longer discredit Sun Sign Astrology entirely. I have come to the conclusion that how important the Sun is really depends on the person's chart. In many cases, the Moon and Rising Sign are more accurate to people's personalities and thus more important. In some cases the Sun Sign is the placement that matches some people best.
In most cases, I suspects its like me-Sun isn't the most important placement but plays a MAJOR ROLE in the chart and influences the rest of the chart profoundly;it heavily alters the effects of both the Moon and Ascendant. Thats my theory of how it would turn out in most people's chart.
What do you think?