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Jessica2407
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posted March 22, 2013 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
List the signs you think is most stubborn to the sign which is least stubborn IYO

On top of my list is Taurus

I tried making a list of the next most stubborn ones and am having trouble deciding which ones are more stubborn.Are Leos more stubborn than Scorpios?Scorps more stubborn than aquarians? I think all fixed signs are equally stubborn but which sign will likely see reason and re-evaluate their standing on things?

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VirgoGirl92
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posted March 22, 2013 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoGirl92     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries on my top list I don't seem to get along with them wondering why ? I have Aries rising and don't feel like it lol

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posted March 22, 2013 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus especially taurus moon.Aquas come next in my list,I don't really find Leos and Scorpios stubborn,I find Capricorns more stubborn than those two.

Least stubborn would be Pisces or Gemini,okay I am more stubborn than those Geminis,least stubborn award goes to Geminis.

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posted March 22, 2013 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LionFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus/Aries

Every Sun native I've met from these signs is extremely stubborn

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 22, 2013 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Capricorn

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posted March 22, 2013 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends on how many fixed planets in the chart.

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posted March 22, 2013 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus.

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12thhouser
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posted March 22, 2013 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fixed signs typically get accused of being stubborn, but I think they're more tenacious than stubborn.

If I had to choose a sign that I felt was stubborn (and stubbornness can have plenty of good qualities to it), I'd vote for Capricorn.

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posted March 22, 2013 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saggitarius

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posted March 22, 2013 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SagittariusRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Depends on how many fixed planets in the chart.

Agreed. But IME, Leo Suns/Moons and Taurus.

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posted March 22, 2013 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus

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posted March 22, 2013 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by watermonkey:
Saggitarius

To each their own, but mutable signs don't strike me as particularly stubborn.

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Jessica2407
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posted March 22, 2013 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by watermonkey:
Saggitarius

Sag??

ummm...have never met a stubborn sag TBH..

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posted March 22, 2013 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for watermonkey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeahh..maybe only some of them but i certainly do see it...especially my dad.

below are a few examples
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080403095220AA4xROL

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posted March 22, 2013 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People with Mercury conjunct Neptune, maybe?

They see things their particular way...sometimes it seems that their minds exist in a bubble that nothing from the outside can penetrate.

No offense intended to people with this aspect, I've just known a few who never give an inch of ground.

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posted March 22, 2013 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by watermonkey:
Yeahh..maybe only some of them but i certainly do see it...especially my dad.

below are a few examples
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080403095220AA4xROL


Since Sag naturally ends at the MC, perhaps that's why Sags want to "be right," but I still don't see that as being stubborn. Of the ones on that Yahoo Answers page claiming to be stubborn Sags, I wonder if there's another descriptive they're looking for but chose "stubborn" by default. Being ruled by Jupiter, maybe when a Sag feels their optimistic outlook is being threatened, their version of defensiveness is to appear stubborn, but I don't think one of Sag's traits is stubbornness per se.

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posted March 22, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
People with Mercury conjunct Neptune, maybe?

They see things their particular way...sometimes it seems that their minds exist in a bubble that nothing from the outside can penetrate.

No offense intended to people with this aspect, I've just known a few who never give an inch of ground.


I have the trine, mercury trine neptune exact,however I blame my stubbornness on my stellium in Leo

And ASC in cap

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posted March 22, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by watermonkey:
Saggitarius

Exactly, the thing is Saggie puts a happy face on being stubborn, or hides it under intellectualism.

A Taurus will just a flat "no" a Saggie will give a 10 minute speech, then say no, then smile about it.

Especially when it is not their idea, Saggie can be really unreasonable when someone suggests something that imposes on a Saggie, that makes perfect sense, but wasn't their idea.

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posted March 22, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im a mixture of aquarius, taurus,and capricorn. plus i have pluto and saturn aspects, im made for trench warfare! lmao

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posted March 22, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
People with Mercury conjunct Neptune, maybe?

They see things their particular way...sometimes it seems that their minds exist in a bubble that nothing from the outside can penetrate.

No offense intended to people with this aspect, I've just known a few who never give an inch of ground.



or maybe we see things others dont notice and refuse to budge when we know we are right.

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posted March 22, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:
Especially when it is not their idea, Saggie can be really unreasonable when someone suggests something that imposes on a Saggie, that makes perfect sense, but wasn't their idea.


Yes, yes, we can be obnoxious like that.

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posted March 22, 2013 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Yin:
Yes, yes, we can be obnoxious like that.

When a Saggie doesn't like something, we just won't do it, if we are forced to do it then things can get really ugly.

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SaturnineMoth
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posted March 22, 2013 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*ahem* I have most of these

I am far from stubborn.

~ but I do agree Sags are suspiciously stubborn for a mutable - (family full of centaurs here - husband is the worst, only fixed placement is his 2nd house Scorpio Moon, Tauro only has his Chiron)

aren't all signs a touch stubborn when it comes to certain things...?

it's just more noticeable when it comes from a fixed individual~ non?! (like drawing things out longer, being even more unreasonable and unwilling to step out of a box or compromise) - lol

Anyway - most stubborn sign award - (for me!) - goes to Taurus. the other fixed signs tend to come around and get over crap faster... sturdy ol' Earth... you'll be waiting till the cows come home!!!

lol

I'm only stubborn when people refuse to see things from other perspectives - I don't care about who is right or wrong so much as trying to understand each view and every other out there - I like possibilities, but I also like order...

Merc (Cap), Nep (Sag), Jup (Sag) 4h
rules - 1-10th, 7th, 4-7th

by house I'm more Cardinal - but by total calculation - I'm Mutable by a huge margin!

but, it comes at a price... fickleness...

otherwise, you'd find me reasonable, and hopefully sensible. ^^;

Pullen:
Mutuable: 279.4 / 42.2%
Fixed: 182.7 / 27.6%
Cardinal: 199.4 / 30.1%

Sagittarius: 151.4 ( 1) / 22.9%
Cancer: 93.6 ( 2) / 14.2%
Scorpio: 91.4 ( 3) / 13.8%
Capricorn: 79.2 ( 4) / 12.0%

>.>; I am so /not/ stubborn - only stubbornly opposed to being stubborn! mwahahaha

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Jessica2407
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posted March 22, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Okay SM..you are not stubborn

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