posted March 28, 2013 07:19 PM            

This reminds me of some stuff I read nearly a year ago about Pisces men by the time they reached the Evolved Stage.

That the evolved Pisces becomes some sort of Mystic that lives a Spartan lifestyle void of luxuries and living only by the necessities of life (food, shelter, clothing, money to pay off taxes).

I'm trying to look for the sight but came up short.

But basically the Evolved Stage of Pisces is not white washy and escapist but is rather a stoic who devotes his life to a cause (hence Linda Goodman's comment about many Pisces men becoming priests in their involved stage).

posted March 28, 2013 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Spartan sounds too warrior-like.

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So how about Monkly then? Or Mystic?

And I used the word spartan by its dictionary definition.

Spartan. a. Rigorously self-disciplined or self-restrained. b. Simple, frugal, or austere.

posted March 29, 2013 12:08 AM            

I can say I do see them as being more reclusive, and very wise... not in the matter of being brilliant and full of themselves for their knowledge or something, or even that the wisdom is esoteric/spiritual... but, more so that it is a wisdom that comes from the struggles they've battled through, fighting the currents they've fought, and then reaching a calm sea where the depth of their hearts and souls is able to become a part of the bigger picture, in a sense. Pisces is said to have a bit of every sign that precedes it within them, that's the good and the bad of all those signs and houses... and, from what I've seen especially... they often have the most sorrows at their back, but that's only because they have this exceptional potential to reach that final evolution... the culmination of 11 signs, reaching a final stage in one...

But, each sign has that ultimate potential, but for their own sign and its own highest plateau. And, each sign has it's negative sides, and each person has seen struggles that have helped push them into that next evolution, closer to that ultimate one... closer to their next incarnation. And, not each person will be the same when evolved; as in, putting two evolved Cancer Suns in the same room but they may not have the same lifestyle, look, ideals, experiences... they are unique, but both can be truly evolved. And, really - the whole process is not written in stone, you can meet a 12 year old evolved Pisces, or a Capricorn who hasn't at the ripe, old age of 80 yet reached their peak... it isn't just age and progressions that make the sign evolved, right? But, the actual soul, the entire being. I think we are all evolving at our own speed astrologically - but, each of us will always be unique, because our charts and lives make us this way.

Now, for my Pisces evolved father - who was the lowest of low, darkest of dark, the epitome of all those negative characteristics that are often ascribed to the 12th sun.. His last 5 years he transformed... it was dynamic, and visible, the whole process~
And, for the record - yes... he did become something like you are describing here, but something like I mentioned above too. It wasn't pure selflessness and spirituality, but it was contentment, serenity, and wisdom that shone through. Ah, if I could only explain the way his eyes began to gleam - the reflection of years of ups and downs... the shift and strength he showed before he died... I wish I could really describe that... I wish I could have had longer to get to know this form of him. He was an amazing man, despite all of his flaws (he had so many)... for him it came down to bitterness and guilt. When he finally stopped putting a worth or worthless tag onto everything, a me or them tag, and really began to listen to and feel those around him, and filter all those energies - he really became a beautiful man. It was like all the things he had always told himself he was, but never truly felt, and all those things he couldn't see that others could and he wouldn't recognize, he could finally accept... the forgiveness and acceptance and even repentance... this made him an evolved Pisces.

He was a Pisces Sun, Scorpio Moon, and Leo Rising cnj (1h) Pluto.

He had Venus-Mercury square Jupiter (PSC/GEM) - and Venus-Mercury square Mars (PSC/SAG)
He had trine Venus-Mercury to Saturn (PSC/SCO)
And Venus-Mercury trine Uranus (PSC/CNC)
(Uranus cnj 12h cusp)

His North Node in the 6h was cnj Chiron (as well as exact cnj my Sun, which oddly enough is also exact cnj my mother's Saturn) Anyway - his Moon is ruler of his 12th which is in Scorpio 4h, and exact sextile North Node (and my Sun again- heh) - but is sadly, exact square to that is 4h ruler Pluto on the Ascendant in Leo. He has Saturn on his Scorpion IC, and nothing in the 10th. Pluto is inconjunct Chiron and North Node in the 6h exact, and sextile Neptune in 3h Libra - but Neptune is square North Node and Chiron as well...

He had a lot of tough aspects to work through in his natal.

He died with progressed Sun in Taurus, progressed ASC in Libra, and progressed moon in Capricorn cnj both his progressed North Node and natal North Node and Chiron, and progressed Jupiter in Gemini cnj natal Jupiter in Gemini - Progressed Sun opposite progressed Saturn - I think the most notable changes were the accumulation of several Quintiles - and less full squares - the thing that stands out the most is that his Pluto was finally not in the middle of everything, being badly aspected on each side. There were a fair number of oppositions - but oppositions can be used for balance - and in his final years, he did find that balance... he worked out the square tensions, and balanced his lifestyle and purpose, evolving slowly from the inside out.

I may have different views on the evolution theory of the signs than Linda and other board members though. I was exposed to a different angle on the purpose and ordering of the signs and what they mean - and it changed the way I view these matters entirely. Though I couldn't adopt all of the practices and theories that were discussed, I have adapted them to my own use. ^^;

I believe a lot of our purpose and evolution can be shown by the 12th house and its ruler both natal and traditional - but, I like to incorporate all of the nodes and angles - and progressions and symbols... to see what is really in the chart, and what I feel is the path or issues to be dealt with for realization of that potential and release from the hard aspects, and finding balance of the chart, the being. It's fairly simple... but, I really suck at explaining these things. ^^;

I think my father is the most evolved Pisces I've ever actually known. But, I've met several evolved Leo women, 2 Libra men, a Scorpion woman, and an Aquarius couple, and one Taurus woman. My mother is on her way to becoming a beautifully evolved Libra woman, too I think! There are more evolved folks out there, for sure, and again... we are all evolving even if it hasn't reached that final stage where everyone can see it, you are evolving, and can evolve. <3 I believe this much very firmly.

So, this may not be very helpful - but I did want to share... since there does, at least for my own experience with someone I'd consider an evolved Pisces, seem to be some truth behind the symbolism of an Ascetic-type, enlightened, Pisces final evolution.
I just don't think it always comes out in a "monk" or "spartan" way, since there are so many different sides to the sign, and so many outlets for their enlightened souls to shine!

So, yeah! just my experience, and opinion, and reference here~ ! *pinchofsalt*

posted March 29, 2013 02:50 AM            

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anonymidarkness: ^^Like yours?

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