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Odette
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posted March 29, 2013 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do I have such a problem with them? *facepalm*

I genuinely cannot stand them.

I am curious as to how many women have issues with them.

My biggest problem is that they have very old-fashioned chauvinistic views. This is seriously upsetting to me, as opposed to 'mildly' upsetting.

I get physical reactions to this behaviour. I feel like throwing up all over them. I get instant headaches around them. This is not just a matter of speech. These are *actual* headaches and I have to take meds to feel better.
I also get this brain-freeze feeling,.. like I am so intensely angry towards them - that I literally cannot feel my own body anymore.

When a guy has his Sun in Aries - things are usually a bit better between us.. There is more dignity to an Aries Sun - rather than other placements in Aries.
However, in particular men who have *other* Sun Signs and who have Moon-Merc-Venus or Mars in Aries.. JUST.KILL.ME.

There are exceptions... I have friends for instance who have Venus and Mars conjunct in Aries close to my Sun. They seem protective of me.. and due to the Venus/Mars conjunction they have a better understanding of male-female similarities.. so they are less likely to be chauvinistic.
This is a RARE exception though.. The majority (as above) ->> JUST.KILL.ME.

Please tell me how you personally get along with Aries energy in men - and what it is in your natal chart or synastry with them - that makes you either like or dislike them...

I'm curious about other women's experiences.. and I would really LOVE to know how you feel about their chauvinistic perspective on life.

Often I feel like when women (usually LEO-influenced women) defend these men - by saying they are just cute, funny, young at heart, playful and what not...... they brush the UGLY CHAUVINISM issue under the carpet.

So if you are a Leo-influenced girl who is just about getting ready to write one of these 'pretty' posts in defence of the Aries-type.... please tell me *specifically* what your views regarding their CHAUVINISM are..

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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2013 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i guess my sidereal aries moon does apply afterall. j/k haha

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Odette
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posted March 29, 2013 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are not a chauvinist!

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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2013 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, i dont think so either, but others would say that.lol

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 29, 2013 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure how many I have known, personally, Odette. I do know about the ENERGY you are referring to. It can be frustrating and nerve wracking. It's too domineering. People get too egotistical and pushy. Yes, very annoying energy!

I guess your word for it is chauvinism. Never thought of it that way before but yes, this is what it is.

I see it in men and women, both. It's when they think they are better than me for whatever reason so I have to use my Libra planets to one up them and think I am better. Vicious cycle!

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posted March 29, 2013 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally never met an Aries like this, I dated one Aries and he opened doors for me, was very kind to me.... We were very young, but he came into my life when I was at a very low point and he picked me up...

The chauvinist I met have been strong cap influence..

I put put my self around people like that, I just leave and let them be..

My husband has an Aries moon... He wasn't like that at all... He did most of the cooking and he helped around the house a lot....
He's a Virgo, so basically he wanted to help people...
He's the go to type of guy...

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posted March 29, 2013 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I met someone with chauvinist views, I wouldn't stick around, or be around that person...

I would just go off into my own direction... I ignore stuff like that,.. I don't let it phase me... That would be giving more power to it....

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aquaguy91
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posted March 29, 2013 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interestingly enough the only aries guy i know really well always calls outs chauvinists. i remember specifically he was griping about one of his students (he is a school teacher) openly admitting he doesnt respect women because his dad told him not to. he said that boys dad needs his butt kicked.

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Lazyscarecrow
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posted March 29, 2013 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a strongly Leo influenced female (Sun, Mercury, Venus, 5th house Moon) and I had the same problem you had with a male Aries Sun, Moon, and Mercury.

He behaved much like a pig, for lack of a better term or explanation..

While he didn't outright express chauvinistic views, the way he behaved towards me suggested I cater to his every need like a little slave girl with disregard to how I might feel or what I might want in return or even just in general. Treated beautiful women generally better than an "average" girl, or at least one who didn't fit his ideal. Seemed to fall in love with porn stars "unknowingly". (not that I have a problem with women who choose to do that for a career) Was very very whiny and depressive about his problems, but God forbid I have one, because I need to "get my shizz together" like he has a hard time doing. Also over-bearing... Jesus. Overbearing is too generous a word. Would express little interest in things I liked but wanted me to care about and partake in EVERYTHING to do with him. Just annoying in general. He has a good heart and is capable of decency every now and again, but... damn.

I don't think any of this behavior is cute. But I do not have this problem with Aries placements in general, when there are other signs to balance it out.

This might not fit chauvinism but feel free to correct me and I'll fix what I can.

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Hanneli
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posted March 29, 2013 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hanneli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one of my exes had an aries moon. when he was in a good mood, everything was delightful. and much like a leo-influenced woman would say... he was funny, young at heart, and playful.
BUT OH DEAR GOD LKASFJKNEKJVGNERW WHEN HE GOT ****** ... he would become to most childish, ignorant, relentlessly petty piece of **** . he wasn't chauvinistic while i was with him, although after we had broken up there were certain political beliefs that he held that was brought up in conversation and i wanted to vomit.

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hannaramaa
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posted March 29, 2013 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know... the two Tauruses I liked who were a bit more flighty than I expected both had Mercury and Venus in Aries. Not a headache really, but certainly thought a lot of themselves when they really had no accomplishments or looks to back up the arrogant air about them. I just met a Leo with Aries rising though and he doesn't seem too bad. He's got a really light-hearted friendly energy about him that I enjoy. Very direct and blunt but not hurtful (maybe that's because of my own Aries placements.) Opinionated though, definitely.

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starfairy
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posted March 29, 2013 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You summed up my exact feelings for Aries men. I, too, get physical reactions to some of the ones I've known. I almost ripped my Venus in Aries ex's head off lol. He was sooo annoying!! It gets me angry even when I think about the stupid things he has said.

Sag sun/asc with Aries moon here. I dislike sag guys for the same reason as Aries men. I really dislike cocky men, and chauvinist men really **** me off. And I'm very much into gender equality so that stuff really gets to me.

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Kerosene
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posted March 29, 2013 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing is.. aries men want to dominate everyone, not just women, their friends and family too.
I don't think they have a vendetta against women the sad thing is that they want to dominant their partner and if an aries man is straight well then....

My mom has venus in aries and she controls my father, my father tries and resists and bless his little leo heart but its pretty much useless. Aries has to triumph.

Aries is my second most dominant sign and I can be the same way too. I'm not chauvinistic towards anyone, I just like to be in control. This usually why I go for passive signs like pisces because they like partner that can whip them into shape.

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted March 29, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This thread rocks <333333

Sayyyy no to chauvinism <3

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Jkitty
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posted March 29, 2013 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries is the baby of the zodiac. There are nice babies and there are brats! Babies are naturally "ME" focused, but some do it with charm and others in other ways. Chauvinism is a very immature attitude AND I HATE IT. But I don't hate Aries (I've got it on the DES, so **cough** I've got to accept it as having qualities I need to develop within myself).

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posted March 29, 2013 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have moon/venus/mars/jup in scorpio an as Mars-dominated woman I seem to attract Aries influenced men, my ex husband was Aries AC and since then every guy I ve been attracted to has something in Aries.
My ex husband was a soft, but emotionally closed person, I didnt notice any Aries tendencies, but he was Aries NN, so he had to develop those.
Some years ago I had a crush on a coworker who was Aries sun/moon/merc/venus. The crush was mutual, but he was in a relationship and we just chatted sometimes. He was very very soft and not assertive at all... to the point that I had to initiate the conversation... basically he stood next to me blushing haha. talk about Aries assertiveness! He was not a chauvinist, but I could see egoistic tendencies in him. I think their relship was probably not good, but he continued to escape into work, hating holidays when he had to be home, but didnt do anything to change it.
Now there is an older married Pisces with Aries mercury/venus who is attracted to me and vice versa. He has a good job and is quite arrogant, thinking he is somehow better than other people, but being Pisces he is in general nice... the arrogance is an undercurrent. But I can see that he thinks a lot of himself and not his family, taking solo trips on weekend all the time and pampering himself while his wife sits at home. He is the provider and thus has the power. But in romance department he is very very passive, hitting on me more overtly these last weeks, but not having enough courage to take it further. Egoistic behavior as well. Im fed up.
But this Aries energy is charming... he is fun to be with and he looks so masculine even though he is quite small and slender.... yummmmm

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blondiepowers
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posted March 29, 2013 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blondiepowers     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They say things like women have no use after 50.

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posted March 29, 2013 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro_Curious     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I generally don't like Aries energy in men or women. The only Aries I get on with have heavy water or air aspects. I think that grows them up a bit. Otherwise, I can tolerate them for a bit but after a while... No words, just irritation.

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