posted March 30, 2013 06:16 AM            

i have met two people with this placement...they dont know each other at all, from different countries.
the interesting thing is that they have the same 'theories' about x situation.
it is pretty intriguing to see....
they are both very skeptical about how the situation is being portrayed in the media.
they think that the reality is very different from what the media reports about the particular situation.

i checked their charts and surprisingly, both have moon square neptune.
one has moon in aries square neptune in capricorn.
the other one has moon in pisces square neptune in saggitarius...

im waiting to see how the situation develops.
to see if whether they have a reason to be skeptical or,
they just want to see what they want to see...and are fooling (illusion) themselves.

posted March 30, 2013 07:11 AM            

They seem confused and in their own world.
Oh and they space out a lot.

Can be awkward in social situations..
Sometimes paranoid.

posted April 01, 2013 11:20 AM            

the sq makes for heightened sensitivity but i would agree there is a thin line between intuition and paranoia. large crowds, esp crowded trains etc are no no for me, and most other people i know with this aspect.

reading too deeply into things can be a problem, at times i am simply absorbing too much, it's a waste of energy. mostly. there are enough times, when it provides insight which proves to be useful. (nep in 3rd house cap.) if i told you i could pick up cues from the universe from the immediate environment you wouldn't believe me. but this is the beauty of this placement. it takes the simplest of things and turns it into something deeply meaningful. it's a fairly integral part of my chart, and one of the hardest aspects, but i definitely wouldn't be without it now.

call me crazy, but i don't buy into main stream media or political bs readily either.

posted April 01, 2013 01:00 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
unsurprisingly, no moon-square peeps are answering

the sq makes for heightened sensitivity but i would agree there is a thin line between intuition and paranoia. large crowds, esp crowded trains etc are no no for me, and most other people i know with this aspect.

reading too deeply into things can be a problem, at times i am simply absorbing too much, it's a waste of energy. mostly. there are enough times, when it provides insight which proves to be useful. (nep in 3rd house cap.) if i told you i could pick up cues from the universe from the immediate environment you wouldn't believe me. but this is the beauty of this placement. it takes the simplest of things and turns it into something deeply meaningful. it's a fairly integral part of my chart, and one of the hardest aspects, but i definitely wouldn't be without it now.

call me crazy, but i don't buy into main stream media or political bs readily either.

sun/moon-nep-asc cardinal t sq

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The opposition is one tough aspect but fortunately, it can offer a path to inner salvation and peace if you are spiritual and make the right choices. Lot of empathy and emotional enlightenment.

People tend to see you as being weaker and might try to take advantage. That's the downside.

posted April 01, 2013 01:18 PM            

i wasn't rolling my eyes at the peeps not answering. more that the slant so far seemed negative. ppl with the aspect might be put off from answering, the irony being this pretty much the most sensitive aspect there is.

posted April 01, 2013 01:33 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
chocolate haha yes

i wasn't rolling my eyes at the peeps not answering. more that the slant so far seemed negative. ppl with the aspect might be put off from answering, the irony being this pretty much the most sensitive aspect there is.

is there a more sensitive aspect? really? i'd like to know.

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It can be frustrating when people are not answering and you want to know how something works in their lives, lol. I am endlessly fascinated how others handle the same aspects, downright passionate in my thirst for knowledge!

A lot of people do not have these moon/Neptune contacts or perhaps they just have the sextile and trine, so they cannot speak from experience?

Physical, emotional, psychic, sensitivity all big time part of who I am. I am extremely prone to myself and my environment.
I can feel sensations in my CNS when I am coming down with colds and such, not sure if others experience this, if they do, it's not uncommon. My spine feels like it's churning, very strange sensation, and that's how I know I caught a cold or stomach virus. Not sure if this is over sensitivity or everyone is like this? Right before I come down with the symptoms of a norovirus, especially, I get really depressed, morbid and this sensation is in my spine.

The aspect can manifest in timidity, a certain paranoia, and fear issues. I'd say imagination and emotional response are greatly intensified for me, personally. I know people can handle these aspects differently. I have an overly emotional nature. My emotions are intensified and I have had hysteria issues in the past.

Now I am grateful Neptune has brought me peace. I notice things are better for me when I cherish what Neptune stands for instead of going against it.

posted April 01, 2013 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
yes, it's just me being a delicate flower

i very rarely get sick with colds and things... morbid tho, yes, that's me.

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Don't worry, I am delicate too and tend to dramatize but I have a terrific sense of humor! Could this aspect affect sense of humor, I wonder? People perceive me as being funny a lot of the time. More humorous than serious. Wonder if this aspect has something to do with someone not being taken seriously by others because it happens to me more often than not.

My health is great most the time which doesn't seem likely with this and Pisces on house 6, but it is and has been most my life.

posted April 01, 2013 04:10 PM            

My Sun/Moon square has obviously been more noticeable to me than the Neptune/Moon square, but this thread has me thinking about it. I wouldn't consider myself paranoid as much as "obnoxiously-attentive and easily carried away" with Sag/Virgo the awareness seems to fluctuate between observing the delicate nuances of a situation and grasping the greater message of a situation. Sadly both points of view struggle to occupy the same mind at the same time, so there is a lot of room for overlooking/underestimating facets of a situation as I process all the data living somewhere between both extremes.

Example: When I focus on a person my personal space becomes a copy of how that person feels (not so fun at parties or in crowds). I can walk around inside myself and objectively feel their areas of sadness, pain, shame, etc.. If I lose awareness of my self, I will interact with others based on what I feel and not what they are projecting. Sometimes people just want to get away from their struggles though and I've had real difficulty interacting in a superficial way while someone's struggles feel so loud to me. Age has granted me better skill at letting people process stuff on their own and not turning into a spiritual Florence Nightingale, but occasionally I can get so caught up in the process of getting to know others that I lose sight of my own issues beneath the awareness of theirs.

Regarding conspiracy, I think this aspect has experienced that things are not often what they seem, as external communication pales in comparison to the richness and complexity of what communication attempts to describe. Whenever someone tells you a story, attempts to make an impression, or generally interacts there is always so much more than whatever is conveyed. I wonder how many of us were raised with dishonest mothers or mothers who required us to read into their needs without being forthcoming. My mom is definitely an emotionally manipulative person. I had to learn to see her truth intuitively, because she is rarely honest. I think whatever our upbringing, we are wired to expect disingenuousness and therefor instinctively anticipate the other shoe dropping after the first one lands.

Perhaps this is where the idea of paranoia comes in. The Moon is our personal space of instinctive security and nurturing, the collective of things we feel are emotionally true, and the foundations upon which our emotional world has been built. With Neptune square Moon, those foundations and securities are perceived as imaginary or incapable of being defined. Personally I think the idea of taking the world at face value and believing whatever one is told is like walking around blindfolded while strangers tell you where to walk and what the world is like.

posted April 01, 2013 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
yes xiiro, yet u seem to have mastered that curse so well honestly overjoyed by that post. rofl@spiritual florence nightingale. misunderstood is so spot on.

starlight, what degree is your asc? i have a 6h sun and moon, health should be terrible lol. but i do have sun and moon trine saturn *quickly tries to cultivate good habits before sat return* lol i have moon quincunx pluto, 8h moon sounds pretty awesome to me

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Neptune often cannot be articulated, I have discovered. Sometimes, I can put into words what I could not previously and am surprised afterward.

I have a Sun/Saturn trine while the Moon trines Mercury, Uranus and Pluto which really helps with all the wonderful Neptune. Also, a trine from Neptune to Venus so there are lovely ways to cope...

Ascendant as at 9 degrees Libra with four planets behind it but all closely conjunct it and each other.

posted April 01, 2013 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
yep, know quite a few people with it. sensitive souls so they are.

venus-nep sounds niiice. i have mars trine nep but it doesn't sound anywhere near as pretty. your asc is 2 degrees off mine at 11

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Your ascendant is 11 degrees Libra!!!! That's cool! What's on your MC? Mine's Cancer.

posted April 02, 2013 05:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
could someone tell me more about natal moon square neptune? please?
(beyond the internet descriptions....)

i have met two people with this placement...they dont know each other at all, from different countries.
the interesting thing is that they have the same 'theories' about x situation.
it is pretty intriguing to see....
they are both very skeptical about how the situation is being portrayed in the media.
they think that the reality is very different from what the media reports about the particular situation.

i checked their charts and surprisingly, both have moon square neptune.
one has moon in aries square neptune in capricorn.
the other one has moon in pisces square neptune in saggitarius...

im waiting to see how the situation develops.
to see if whether they have a reason to be skeptical or,
they just want to see what they want to see...and are fooling (illusion) themselves.

i mean, are these people highly intuitive?
or not?

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posted April 02, 2013 11:30 PM            

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Originally posted by anno_lucis:
co-operation, yeah, i guess. diplomacy is libra's rule tho i have 4 planets in aries lol. MC conj sirius... ur like the libra version of me u must be very beautiful lol!

my natal pallas is at 9 aries, which is funny cos in my prog chart pallas is on my sun and moon midpoint, which is also conjunct natal venus! where's your chart ruler?

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So I guess you are dynamic with others? I tend to be really laid back like the Libra and I love my Libra planets. I identify with Saturn a lot, since it's exalted in the sign, maybe more than with Venus (Venus is in house 10, Saturn's traditional space.)I have a saturnine disposition for sure but not as earthy and ambitious as Capricorn. More laid back, slow and patient like Libra, and kind of lethargic at times. I enjoy being profound whenever possible. Saturn is inconjunct Mercury, Jupiter, Libra and the ascending degree. In fact, it is exactly inconjunct Jupiter. Saturn doesn't like those pesky Libra planets much, or Venus for some reason but he likes the Virgo sun.

posted April 02, 2013 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbee:
My son has Moon sq. Neptune and has a lot of problems. He is insecure, thinks everyone dislikes him. He is handsome, has a good job... there is not reason why people would dislike him but some do dislike him because he has a bad habit of not looking some people in the eye when he speaks the them. When he feels intimidated by someone he avoids them and when he can't avoid them he doesn't look them in the eye. He also has Opp. Mars and sq. Mercury and has anxiety attacks. I feel so badly for him. His chart is so full of bad aspects. I love him to pieces and can do nothing to help him.

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posted April 03, 2013 09:04 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
So I guess you are dynamic with others? I tend to be really laid back like the Libra and I love my Libra planets. I identify with Saturn a lot, since it's exalted in the sign, maybe more than with Venus (Venus is in house 10, Saturn's traditional space.)I have a saturnine disposition for sure but not as earthy and ambitious as Capricorn. More laid back, slow and patient like Libra, and kind of lethargic at times. I enjoy being profound whenever possible. Saturn is inconjunct Mercury, Jupiter, Libra and the ascending degree. In fact, it is exactly inconjunct Jupiter. Saturn doesn't like those pesky Libra planets much, or Venus for some reason but he likes the Virgo sun.

My chart ruler is in Leo (5 degrees) and is at 28 degrees Virgo in the progressed chart. I haven't studied the asteroids much. What is it Pallas does again?

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pallas is to do with identifying patterns, and problem solving from what i can gather...i have to look into it some more now it's been highlighted to me again

posted April 03, 2013 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Barbee:
[b] My son has Moon sq. Neptune and has a lot of problems. He is insecure, thinks everyone dislikes him. He is handsome, has a good job... there is not reason why people would dislike him but some do dislike him because he has a bad habit of not looking some people in the eye when he speaks the them. When he feels intimidated by someone he avoids them and when he can't avoid them he doesn't look them in the eye. He also has Opp. Mars and sq. Mercury and has anxiety attacks. I feel so badly for him. His chart is so full of bad aspects. I love him to pieces and can do nothing to help him.

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posted April 03, 2013 12:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbee:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
[b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Barbee:
[b] My son has Moon sq. Neptune and has a lot of problems. He is insecure, thinks everyone dislikes him. He is handsome, has a good job... there is not reason why people would dislike him but some do dislike him because he has a bad habit of not looking some people in the eye when he speaks the them. When he feels intimidated by someone he avoids them and when he can't avoid them he doesn't look them in the eye. He also has Opp. Mars and sq. Mercury and has anxiety attacks. I feel so badly for him. His chart is so full of bad aspects. I love him to pieces and can do nothing to help him.

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Are you tempted to escape by using drugs or alcohol? My son used alcohol because he discovered he could be a fun and carefree guy without the insecurity when drinking... but of course it he over did it and was passed out every weekend. His wife and baby left him and know he is soooo sorry. He is miserable without them. He has stopped drinking (or at least told he he has) and he is trying to do everything to get them back. According to his wife... it's over. My heart goes out to him because I KNOW why he did what he did and she doesn't. His moon is in Taurus and Venus in Aquarius. He wants to keep his family, he loves his 2 yr old daughter and misses her. And I'm a mess because with my moon in Cancer... and Leo on my 5th I want to help or save him. Not much I can do though. I wanted to find out his wife's birthtime so I could see what's going on for her. I put her picture up here but no one answered. [/B][/QUOTE]

The aspects might indicate binging, at least my opposition does, and passing out from too much alcohol is known as binge drinking. Binging is a big time danger with these aspects.

posted April 03, 2013 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
The aspects might indicate binging, at least my opposition does, and passing out from too much alcohol is known as binge drinking. Binging is a big time danger with these aspects.

Sorry about the situation with his wife and child. The most he can do is keep trying and hope for the best. It sounds wacky, but I find it helps in my situation to honor Neptune and all Neptune stands for. That would be oceans, clouds, water, peace, horses, even stuff like movies, music, imagination, fiction, singing. Of course, it would awkward for him to do this, probably, and he might feel foolish and not even have an interest but I find it does make my life easier. It's like Neptune is saying we need to be on his side or he will destroy us, that's how I see it. By being on his side, I have to find other ways to resolve my conflicts besides the destructive ways like binging and emotionalism. I have found peace of mind this way and once you have that, things get a bit easier in life and people are more willing to cooperate.

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So happy for you that you mastered your Neptune. I have considered introducing him to Astrology but he is the type that it would frighten. If he saw how badly aspected his chart was he might make it worse. He is worries himself sick over things. Here's his chart.