posted March 31, 2013 11:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Vradec:
I'd say we're intense. Out of my 20 classmates (all are Pluto in Scorp bar one or two) 12 of them are on some form of anti-depressant. Also almost all of them abuse drugs and alcohol and over-indulge in casual sex.

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I believe most are on antidepressants through aggressive and unethical marketing, not because the kids need them...if anything, they need them less than the more violent generations that came before them. And I think MADTV understand why parents (and schools, though some schools get kickbacks for pushing pills) embrace it, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53FpPUZLXGg

posted April 01, 2013 06:33 AM            

Look at the younger generations.
I find the Pluto in Sag generation way more "crazier". Like they grow up so fast it's really scary.

I think it has to do with society at large. I mean a lot of people take antidepressants, very often for the wrong reasons. But many teenagers/young adults are in that sort of depressive state because they are not taught how to deal with life properly.. most of them don't have enough support or care from their families, and they don't know how to react to what's happening around them. Too much pressure: you have to look this way, act that way, do this, do that, be cool, be skinny, be successful, etc. It's overwhelming and Scorpio just happens to be a Water sign, very sensitive. So maybe what happens is that with the Pluto in Scorpio generation, kids take all the BS way more seriously than they should. It takes a life or death kind of dimension, where they feel pressured to be - or appear to be - a certain way.

posted April 01, 2013 07:26 AM            

How old is this new pluto generation right now ? 18-20 ?

I sense that they are into living life to the fullest.

posted April 01, 2013 08:51 AM            

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Originally posted by beckylee:

How old is this new pluto generation right now ? 18-20 ?

I sense that they are into living life to the fullest.

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Pretty much.

Lol @ Ishannah! guess some people are just casual.

posted April 01, 2013 08:57 AM            

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"The benevolent entrepreneurs," 1984-88 (Generation Y-a) (Uranus in Sagittarius, Neptune in Capricorn, Pluto in Scorpio) This is a more ambitious and well-disciplined group. It will include many far-seeing and important leaders and entrepreneurs. Though most will probably be on the conservative side, many will organize great projects for the public benefit. They feel a great duty to society and Humanity.

"The committed ones," 1988-1995 (Generation Y-b) (Uranus conjunct Neptune in Capricorn, Pluto in Scorpio) This is a group with outstanding potential. It is a very precocious generation, but won't burn itself out in youth. They are steady, persistent, determined, ambitious and passionate. They have great talent in the arts, politics and organization, and they may be the great leaders who lay down lasting foundations for a new age of civilization. On the other hand, some might consider them too cold, calculating, rigid, worldly or obsessed with their own goals.

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posted April 01, 2013 09:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Lunae:
I found this breakdown of the Pluto in Scorp generation

There's no mention of intense here, though. Hmmmm.

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posted April 01, 2013 09:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Astro_Curious:
I don't get the labeling of Pluto in Scorpio as being intense. I'm Pluto in Libra and missed Pluto in Scorp by a few months so a lot of my cohorts are in this generation and I don't really see the "intensity" necessarily. [/B]

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I'm going to quote what Doux said, because I think this would be the answer to your question

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

I think it has to do with society at large. I mean a lot of people take antidepressants, very often for the wrong reasons. But many teenagers/young adults are in that sort of depressive state because they are not taught how to deal with life properly.. most of them don't have enough support or care from their families, and they don't know how to react to what's happening around them. Too much pressure: you have to look this way, act that way, do this, do that, be cool, be skinny, be successful, etc. It's overwhelming and Scorpio just happens to be a Water sign, very sensitive. So maybe what happens is that with the Pluto in Scorpio generation, kids take all the BS way more seriously than they should. It takes a life or death kind of dimension, where they feel pressured to be - or appear to be - a certain way.

I think one of the most important lessons for the Scorpio Pluto generation is to find a middle ground and not go into extremes: not overdo stuff but come to a balance and channel the intensity into some healthy outlet.

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I also see it that way, but that doesn't mean it would apply to all. Nothing in astrology is absolute.

posted April 01, 2013 04:08 PM            

maybe when this energy is focused inwards, constant psychological self analysis leads to depression, but there is a purpose usually, and a chance for evolution

posted April 01, 2013 07:09 PM            

The Pluto in Scorpio generation is coming of age in a time of decay, collapse, institutional corruption, degeneration, and extreme societal change. They are made of strong stuff and are up for the task. They CAN handle the truth. But the pathway through may involve some kind of annihilation, humbling loss of power or confrontation with death itself.

They are now age 16 to 27 (as of 2011). Some have been to hell and back in war, where the deaths by suicide are at times higher than the deaths in combat, in a given month. In Pluto's trials, many will experience spiritual death and renewal, and carry profound wisdom and fearlessness from that. Some may struggle with addictions, an attraction to crime, or the allure of sorcery (psychic power over others).

Dark Magic

Through their drive to live from the soul, they will transform our world, and free us from the tyranny of the superficial, the healed-over wound, the burden of denial. Only the deep and real will do for them.

Many grew up on Harry Potter, and have a compelling interest in what’s occulted (hidden). They will draw psychopathic death-dealing conspiracy out of the shadows, and rebuild society on the ashes of what’s been purified in Pluto’s fire. They’ll create powerful art, music, story from their journeys into the underworld, psychically and physically.

The Ones Who Will Change Everything

...My sense is that this generation will rewrite history in many foundational areas, in part by reclaiming ancient wisdom. They'll also revamp the systems of currency and production, in favor of practices that are self-sustaining. They have an instinct for the power of the life-death-life cycle. Some will go deep into sexual power, as a tool for transformation. Practices like tantra, and bringing soul back to sex will be intriguing. Through their investigations, they'll bring forward something ancient, and yet new -- healing the deep wounds of humanity experienced through sexuality.

Regenerating (Pluto) through total inside-out transformation (Scorpio):
Cathartic, altering experiences in war, economic devastation, homelessness (loss of psychic foundation), the bondage of debt, sexual degradation/merging/corruption.
Healers that hone in on the root causes of dis-ease.
Healing mind-body split further with soul retrieval, ensouling practices, the power of soulful presence.
http://astrology.about.com/od/pluto/a/Pluto-In-Scorpio-Generation.htm

posted April 01, 2013 07:53 PM            

I think things like retrograde and house placement are still extremely important in differentiating the generational audience.

I've said it here before and I'll say it again - the children born after Pluto crossed my natal Saturn are extremely different than the ones born before that time, and I tend to only relate to first decan Scorpion Pluto generation, tolerating the 2nd decan generation, and feel no connection to the third decan generation whatsoever..

I'm a 2* Pluto cnj 1* Mars in Scorpio decan (Aries duad), Scorpio 3rd houser with Mars ruling my 8th house. I think "intense" is a bit dramatic for me. And, most of what was stated in the op reminds me of the younger crowd. My classmates were and still are quite tame in comparison. We had our bush parties and taboo/law breaking moments - and it lost it's appeal really fast... which if I'm not mistaken is more akin to how a Scorpion would operate - once bored with the "mystery" or "thrill", once things have been done, they're done... moving on...

I don't know too many from my closest generation my peers that are severely depressed. My "sister" is, but she lost her brother in a very tragic car accident not long ago, and since he was her rock... well, yes she's become quite dependent on medication and remained fairly antisocial. But, she's not abusing her medication or so severely dejected or bitter with things that she doesn't operate or engage in life. She's a mother of two, and still has time for happiness. She's just more depressed than usual... which can come down to progressions to her natal and being a solar Cancer. I remain in touch with so many of my peers, the ones who have survived have been pushing to their next stage of life, not really wallowing in angst from teenage years like these things make me think here...

decans and duad/dwad energies can be used effectively in generational planets. Personal aspects have to be considered for each person... This is why I for one, feel the closest to those born in the 1st three degrees of Pluto and last 3 of Libra more than any others... not to say I cannot get along with the younger or older Plutonians... I just match better with them.

Saturn is returning for us (my peers and I), and Pluto is transiting toward my 5th house Sun... but, no... my days of mood swings, medicine, drugs, parties, excess, and unlawfulness, and debauchery and sin or whatever "intense" is.... are well and over... and, for me... they weren't ever really -that- entertaining to begin with.
Think I know more Pluto in Scorp and Libra potheads than I do anything else... LMAO and intense.... no... "intense" pothead - kinda' an... iunno.......... oxymoron? *snort*

Transformation - that happens to everyone through transit not just Scorpions or Pluto in Scorpio people... everyone!

I don't seem to agree with things stated here - but yeah... that's fine. (missin sand here since our Plutos are so gd closely cnj - he'd know what I maen...) blah -

It's just that other outer planets need to be taken into account too since they are just as much a part of your generation and your peerage too... for instance, I may be a Pluto in Scorp but I'm not a Neptune-Jupiter in 1st decan Cap like many of my peers are... I'm a Nep-Jup in 3rd decan Sag. This does effect my commonality with quite a few of the early born Pluto in Scorp/Neptune in Cap generation. 3rd decan Sag is Solar/Leonine - 1st decan Cap is Saturnine/Cappy! lol

Anyway - yeah, I don't see them all as intense at all. ^^; Think I know some Pluto in Virgoers that would put the tense back in "inTENSE" though - oddly enough. XD (there's more going on to define a generation than just one planet)! ^^

posted April 02, 2013 07:18 AM            

A lot of people around my age suffer from depressions and anxiety as well. It's shocking just how many people I meet that look so together on the surface, but once getting to know them, it turns out they have a lot of issues.

The houses/aspects/decans do make a difference. I feel my Pluto very strongly; it aspects a big part of my chart, including my sun and moon. Mine's in the Pisces decan (12,5 degrees) and the Pisces or Aries duad. I tend to get along best with others who have a strong Pluto, which shocked me at first. I thought it'd be a given for power struggles, but there's actually a lot of natural sympathy and understanding between us. I feel relaxed around them. Even more if the Leo/Scorpio square is emphasized somewhere.

Psychology, astrology and such has taught me a lot about myself. It really is a good way for me to look within without creeping people out. I'm sort of lucky to be the type who wants to get a feel for their surroundings first before going over to people, so I can use the analysing for good. Last thing I'd want is to bother people during their precious time or when they're busy, and I think this helps me avoid some super awkward situations (that I used to jump into as a child).

posted April 02, 2013 07:40 AM            

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Originally posted by meissieri:
A lot of people [deleted] suffer from depressions and anxiety as well. It's shocking just how many people I meet that look so together on the surface, but once getting to know them, it turns out they have a lot of issues

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Fixed that for you.

posted April 02, 2013 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro_Curious:
I don't get the labeling of Pluto in Scorpio as being intense. I'm Pluto in Libra and missed Pluto in Scorp by a few months so a lot of my cohorts are in this generation and I don't really see the "intensity" necessarily.

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