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Jkitty
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posted March 30, 2013 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you have any planets in opposition with your Libra rising S.O.? Do those oppositions ever have the feel of a conjunction to you? Do the conjunctions ever feel like oppositions?

Since Libra rising reverses all the natural house placements, it's my theory that conjunctions and oppositions are modified in these synastries. Please share your experiences. Thanks!

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posted March 30, 2013 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get what you're saying, but I don't think it has merit. A conjunction in H1/Libra will have themes of an conjunction but also of an opposition because of the house placement? I don't see the logic as to why aside from the pairing of an opposite house and sign.

I mean, with Sagittarius or Leo risings, conjunctions and trines don't merge, I wouldn't think. A conjunction in H5/Aries should have themes of a conjunction but also of a trine because the house and sign are a trine pair.

My vote is no.

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posted March 30, 2013 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra rising reverses the natural house placments. Rulerships/Falls and Exaltations/Detriments are always in the opposing house. With Libra rising everything that's natural by sign is opposed by house and everything that is natural by house is opposed by sign. Get it?

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posted March 31, 2013 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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somethingexcellent: I get what you're saying, but I don't think it has merit.

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posted March 31, 2013 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
I don't see the logic as to why aside from the pairing of an opposite house and sign.

I mean, with Sagittarius or Leo risings, conjunctions and trines don't merge, I wouldn't think. A conjunction in H5/Aries should have themes of a conjunction but also of a trine because the house and sign are a trine pair.

My vote is no.



Try an example:
If Leo is rising and you have, say, Saturn in Pisces in the 8th house, the Saturn would have qualities of Pisces expressed in the 8th house which is ruled by Scorpio. If someone's synastry planet was opposed to the Saturn, it would be in Virgo or fall in the Leo rising's 2nd house person's, which is ruled by Taurus. This WOULD NOT give it the quality of a trine or a conjunction.

Now see what happens with Libra rising. Say Libra rising has Venus in Pisces in the 6th house which is ruled by Virgo. For someone's Mars to be in opposition, the Mars would be in Virgo. A 6th house venus, even though in Pisces by sign, could relate to that to some extent.


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posted March 31, 2013 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Jkitty: If someone's synastry planet was opposed to the Saturn,

I suppose I hadn't thought about an opposition in that scenario, but you did ask about conjunctions. Either way, I think it's too convoluted. I can see how you came to such a theory though!

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posted March 31, 2013 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. o_O I have no planets in Aries orLibra

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posted March 31, 2013 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
No. o_O I have no planets in Aries orLibra

Neither do I, but I do have Libra on the ASC

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posted April 01, 2013 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Choc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not even high but dear OP, you don't make sense.

*confused Libra ASC*

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posted April 01, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Lol.

dont worry jkitty I get what your saying. I am Libra ASC and have thought of this before. Although this would vary with each Libra rising depending on the degree of the rising and where their planets fall. I think this def. applies more to early Libra risers.

(for the person above) They mean that House 1's natural sign is Aries so when you are Libra ASC House 1 is in the opposition sign of its natural ruler. Hence, house placements could be conjunct opposite energy, there for if someone has planets opposite yours in synastry it may feel more similar becuase the house placement which is in opposite territory is the same energy as their planet. example: I am Libra Rising and have moon in Cancer. In synastry if someone has venus in Capricorn, becuase my Moon it self might fall in my 10th(opposite) house it is "like" moon in Capricorn.

oh and yeah, in my case, so far, someone has Sun loosly opposite my ASC. and the feeling is more like we are very similar.

better yet the feeling is something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFzQo3h1q3M

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posted April 01, 2013 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Neither do I, but I do have Libra on the ASC

I don't have any angles in Libra or Aries either. haha

im fond of libra ascendant men

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posted April 02, 2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon_girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My bf is Libra ascendant. I have pluto in Libra and nothing in Aries. I have Jupiter in Capricorn which would square his ascendant but he has moon in Capricorn.

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posted April 02, 2013 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moon_girl:
My bf is Libra ascendant. I have pluto in Libra and nothing in Aries. I have Jupiter in Capricorn which would square his ascendant but he has moon in Capricorn.


Do you have any planets in opposition or conjunction to his planets? How do you feel those connections?

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posted April 03, 2013 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard to tell. My Uranus is conjunction his Rising - squared by my natal mars in his 4th and my Sun in Aries is in his 7th conjunction his Aries Moon.

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posted April 03, 2013 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Regardless of sign and house placement: Oppositions still feel like oppositions, and conjunctions still feel like conjunctions.

Some are easier or harder to deal with depending on the planets involved. Like Jupiter/Venus Vs Saturn/Venus.

House placements do effect the mood of an aspect though... Conjunctions in the 5th house would be more playful, while conjunctions in the 6th house would be more analytical.

With regard to house placement, oppositions tend to be about one life area Vs another life area, and how they confront, contradict, and compromise with each other.

For instance, a Libra 1st house placement is about going your on way in a graceful, easygoing style... An opposition to an Aries planet in the 7th house, for Libra Asc, is about dealing with a partner who has a more aggressive, and direct style then themselves. So the Libra Asc themselves has to become more aggressive in order to relate to this Aries-like 'other' in their lives, or they'll get bulldozed. Libra Asc also often shows the Aries-like 'others' in their lives how to be calmer and more polished in self-expression. There's give and take here, which is a chief characteristic of oppositions.

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posted April 03, 2013 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yes, lotuswhite what you have written above has some truth in the sense that it is a mixed feeling. The other is indeed way more "out there" or aggressive in personality than I in general. I feel that they go into every situation head-first where as in I double think everything before I do it. But here is how the outcomes become the same with us. They go into everything "aggressively" knowing they will get it done while I think things through so precisely to begin with that it will get done. So, its really more like we strive for the same outcome, just through different means. This is why I mentioned above that it feels more similar than opposite.

But I think the teaching each other things comes through the smaller finer things. The teaching is more like "don't think so much, just do it." & "why are you so restless, just relax."

So to me, it is more of over all similarity while balancing out the little ends on each other.

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posted April 03, 2013 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am interested in a Libra rising guy and I am an Aries with Sun conj his DC but from the 6th and I have 2 other planets in his house. I sometimes am clueless about how he feels so I am sorry i can't contribute much.. all I can say is that he seems to respect me more than other women, though I guess he might also feel challenged by me. Idk it's early stages, IF it will ever get off the ground.

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posted April 03, 2013 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotus, that is so true! I am very Arian-like in my relationship with my Libra Rising S.O. I am totally more impulsive and hotheaded,

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posted April 03, 2013 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Regardless of sign and house placement: Oppositions still feel like oppositions, and conjunctions still feel like conjunctions.

My personal experience has been different. My friends' birthdays tend to be clustered -either late September/early October or late March/early April. I don't seem to feel any difference between oppositions and conjunctions, but squares do feel the same to me; I attribute this to my Libra rising, but I'm not certain of this. None of these friends have any interest in astrology, so I can't necessarily ask them, hence this thread to solicite the views of others in their relationships with Libra rising folks.

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posted April 03, 2013 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Lotus, that is so true! I am very Arian-like in my relationship with my Libra Rising S.O. I am totally more impulsive and hotheaded,

Yeah, I've started to notice this type of phenomenon.

People attract energy that’s the opposite of their rising sign from others in general. Like they often get reactions and responses from people in the style of their Dsc sign… Even if the ‘other’ people don’t have any planets in that Dsc sign.

People naturally tend to act more forwardly and aggressively toward Libra Asc people. Even if they have no Aries placements in their chart. It’s as if they can somehow sense that the Libra Asc person needs this energy, or has the ability to defuse their anger, so they hold back less then they would with others.

I have a Sag Asc, and sometimes I feel as if ‘others’ in general are too shallow and not morel enough. I tend to get kind of opinionated, and have caught myself getting kind of peachy at times. Maybe that’s why others in general come at me with more of a ‘Gemini’ type style…. Questioning, observant, objective, (Even if the ‘other’ doesn’t have Gemini in their natal chart). It’s like our Asc attracts an opposite reaction.

People act more Cancerish around Capricorn risings. Aquarius risings have a ‘coolness’ about them that seems to inspire people to become more expressive and passionate around them, as if in compensation. Objective Gemini Asc people probably often meet others who are full of belief and opinions, even if these people aren’t actually Sagittarius by sign. And it goes on and on like this.

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posted April 03, 2013 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So true, Lotis! The energy from other people toward us is that of the descending sign and most importantly, the ruler of the sign, placement and aspects.

It's why some people always seem to benefit from others while others never do and then there are those who get mixed results while a few are loners. preferring little energy as possible.

Luckily, I have a couple of good aspects to Pluto but nobody knows if it rules Aries. People just assume it rules Scorpio.

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posted April 03, 2013 11:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yeah, I've started to notice this type of phenomenon.

People attract energy that’s the opposite of their rising sign from others in general. Like they often get reactions and responses from people in the style of their Dsc sign… Even if the ‘other’ people don’t have any planets in that Dsc sign.

People naturally tend to act more forwardly and aggressively toward Libra Asc people. Even if they have no Aries placements in their chart. It’s as if they can somehow sense that the Libra Asc person needs this energy, or has the ability to defuse their anger, so they hold back less then they would with others.

I have a Sag Asc, and sometimes I feel as if ‘others’ in general are too shallow and not morel enough. I tend to get kind of opinionated, and have caught myself getting kind of peachy at times. Maybe that’s why others in general come at me with more of a ‘Gemini’ type style…. Questioning, observant, objective, (Even if the ‘other’ doesn’t have Gemini in their natal chart). It’s like our Asc attracts an opposite reaction.

People act more Cancerish around Capricorn risings. Aquarius risings have a ‘coolness’ about them that seems to inspire people to become more expressive and passionate around them, as if in compensation. Objective Gemini Asc people probably often meet others who are full of belief and opinions, even if these people aren’t actually Sagittarius by sign. And it goes on and on like this.


LOL! I think it's if you attract them

In relationships, a good man would act Cancerian towards me, and a good woman would act Arian towards him

Now for me acting like a Leo... nope....

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posted April 03, 2013 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Yeah, I've started to notice this type of phenomenon.

People attract energy that’s the opposite of their rising sign from others in general. Like they often get reactions and responses from people in the style of their Dsc sign… Even if the ‘other’ people don’t have any planets in that Dsc sign.

People naturally tend to act more forwardly and aggressively toward Libra Asc people. Even if they have no Aries placements in their chart. It’s as if they can somehow sense that the Libra Asc person needs this energy, or has the ability to defuse their anger, so they hold back less then they would with others.


You know, now that you mention it, I think you're right. I've just never attracted the negative, hot-headed, angry (immature?) Aries energy, BUT . . . ALL my friendships were always initiated by the other person making the overture to do something together, so I guess for me I attract the initiative of Aries. Kind of nice, really . . . I get to sit on my butt and be pleasant However, I still don't perceive any difference between having my planets making a conjunction or an opposition with another.

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posted April 04, 2013 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meissieri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, those are great points about your Descendant sign! My closest, long-term friends have Aries qualities in them. I still had to be the one to make the first move, but one of them, who actually is an Aries, immediately replied. She actually got back to me within an hour. Her sun falls on my Descendant and she's just a sweetheart with so much energy and passion for the things she loves. I need people like her in my life. Every day, please.

Sadly I also meet a lot of people who have the negative traits of Aries. I guess I shouldn't want to get to know them.

Edit again: I don't really feel it as oppositions? Even the crazy number of squares it gives our synastry isn't really felt by me.

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posted April 04, 2013 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by meissieri:
Even the crazy number of squares it gives our synastry isn't really felt by me.

Oh, yah, those squares are another story. I've got Jupiter conjunct Saturn in Capricorn, so that tends to create squares to both Aries and Libra placements in any synastries. I think my squares have been DISABLED, at least as far as those planets are concerned. Yep. BALANCED. That describes me very well!

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