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Kerosene
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posted March 31, 2013 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've been reading about special ascendants in vedic astrology.
I'm trying to understand the Arudha lagna.

I know my AL is in Libra but is there anyways I can find out the exact degree?

I wonder if it conjuncts sidereal pluto in libra? I know the navamsa lagna has a specific degree.

Whats your experience with the AL?

I think I make a good but powerful first impression on others.

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Jessica2407
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posted April 01, 2013 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I've been reading about special ascendants in vedic astrology.
I'm trying to understand the Arudha lagna.

I know my AL is in Libra but is there anyways I can find out the exact degree?

I wonder if it conjuncts sidereal pluto in libra? I know the navamsa lagna has a specific degree.

Whats your experience with the AL?

I think I make a good but powerful first impression on others.


Your AL is in Libra?

What's your lagna? Are you using the north indian format or the south indian one?

When you are calculating the AL have you taken the exceptions to the rule in consideration?

actually the arudha lagna is the perception of 'the self' by the maya world.
http://shyamasundaradasa.com/jyotish/resources/articles/adp/ashtamangala_deva_prasna_2.html

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Jessica2407
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posted April 01, 2013 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still learning about it myself..


may be we can put both our heads together and see what more we can learn

what do you say?

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Kerosene
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posted April 01, 2013 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what i gathered its the image others see from you. First impressions.
What others perceive your life to be like with out knowing who you are.
For instance its good to have malefics in the 3rd and 6th house From the AL.
This shows others that your ambitious and gives material success, others will think twice before messing with you.


For instant I have A7 & A2 on the AL it gives me charisma and people often think I'm wealthy or that my parents are rich, while I'm NOT AT ALL.

What are your arudha and your AL padas?

Okay so from the article the arudha lagna will always be the same degree as your main lagna?
Or do they mean the UL

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Jessica2407
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posted April 02, 2013 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, it's the fixed ascendant chart.

My AL is Libra

It's not only how people see you in the maya world, according to some vedic astrologers ( sorry i don't have a reference to give you, am talking from memory) the arudha lagna also is a good significator of beauty,fame associated with beauty,status associated with beauty, fame and money. It's what society judges as beauty.

The 11th and 12th houses from the AL show financial gains, sudden rise to fame and money that is reflected by the person in society.

For instance the 11th and 12th house in the fixed ascendant chart will indicate financial gains and expenditure that the person will likely have, the 11th and 12th houses from the AL will indicate how society view that person's financial status and expenditure. Someone might be worried about how he/she is buying in a supermarket for instance but people are seeing another picture there, they might be in awe like ''wow, did you see how much stuff they had in their cart?"

The 5th house shows intelligence,the 5th house from the AL shows how intelligent people see you.

HOWEVER, this is NOT the only purpose to your AL. AL as well as your fixed lagna is affected by transits,dasas,mahadasas, the whole shift of planets. The 3rd house from your AL shows death. That is something that astrologers look at particularly when they are predicting the longevity of a person,am not sure how accurate the method is.

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posted April 02, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet I have jupiter in leo 11th from my AL.
AL in libra conjuncts Pluto too.
Sun moon mercury and venus in the 8th house from AL
Is the AL lord important too?
Perhaps this is why people mistake me for a scorpio sometimes?

I was studying some celebs and some family members AL
Marilyn has AL in aries with Venus
Beyonce Has AL in Libra with The moon.
My sister has AL conjunct mars in scorpio, she's known for her sex appeal.

My dad has AL in libra conjunct moon and neptune exact, He's always been popular.
People literally go out there way to help him.

I have rahu 3rd house from AL. So I guess I'll die around a strong rahu transit perhaps, Rahu return? I should be in Rahu maha dasha after mars. Should be interesting, I'll be around 30's than I think maybe older.

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posted April 02, 2013 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*This is me thinking aloud*

What is the Arudha Lagna afterall?

They say it's the perception of the self by the maya world. For instance you are going to the university everyday, you interact with people from the University campus almost everyday..is that small world your maya world?? It's more like your reality world, the reality that you face everyday of your life.Right?..I don't know, I feel it's both yes and no...now if we extend this world to people that don't know you, that you don't interact on a daily basis, that world is not fully known to you neither do they know you. Our perception of someone will likely change in the course of further interaction with the individual. someone we might have thought as a friendly person initially may be infact a very unfriendly someone..do you get what I mean? but we would still be in the maya world because the perception of one person doesn't change our society at large will view the person..


There are 3 levels of perceptible reality: the one that we know of ourselves, the atma knows, the level of reality that people in the material world perceive of us, then the third reality is the reality that lives in our heads, our perception of the self and I feel the reality that the material world sees us is a complicated one indeed that needs to be broken down into sublevels!!

Take the principle of how we find out the Arudha lagna: Basically it is the reflection of the graha that represents our lagna, our fixed ascendant. That's all!

You are getting interviewed for a job, you get the job basically because the bosses see as the most capable candidate out of the lot, not because you have better results. They made a decision on how they see you.It was what was distinctly visible to them, what impression you gave them.

hmmm..hope I made sense lol

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posted April 02, 2013 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah jess!!!!
That made a lot of sense to me!!!

I was also looking at the nakshatra the arudha is in!

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posted April 02, 2013 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Thanks

The Arudha Lagna is MUCH more than what we perceive it to be lol. Even our understanding and perception of it is misty!

Based on the Arudha Lagna alone, we can make so many predictions, we can explain why only Mr X gets robbed all the time, why Mrs Y gets lucky all the time, why Mr Z gets shouted at all the time during a meeting. Now if we go back to the fixed planetary placements we shall see if the perception of the individual matches up with the actual natal planets. Like for instance,someone who is well known to be a crook but succeeds in getting away with it each and every time!

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posted April 03, 2013 07:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Sweet I have jupiter in leo 11th from my AL.
AL in libra conjuncts Pluto too.
Sun moon mercury and venus in the 8th house from AL
Is the AL lord important too?
Perhaps this is why people mistake me for a scorpio sometimes?

I was studying some celebs and some family members AL
Marilyn has AL in aries with Venus
Beyonce Has AL in Libra with The moon.
My sister has AL conjunct mars in scorpio, she's known for her sex appeal.

My dad has AL in libra conjunct moon and neptune exact, He's always been popular.
People literally go out there way to help him.

I have rahu 3rd house from AL. So I guess I'll die around a strong rahu transit perhaps, Rahu return? I should be in Rahu maha dasha after mars. Should be interesting, I'll be around 30's than I think maybe older.


Of course the AL lord is important. With the regards to financial status, are you familiar with the AShtavarga system?

What is your moon nakshatra?

What is your degree to the lagna ascendant?

You know that Vishaka nakshatra starts at 20 degree in Tula and ends at 3 dgree something in Vrischika.

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Jessica2407
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posted April 03, 2013 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill Clinton also has his AL in libra

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