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Topic: How and When does your Venus sign develop?
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goatcat
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posted April 04, 2013 11:40 PM
  
Explain what Venus is in a person's chart and how and when it develops and starts to show in someone's personality.IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted April 04, 2013 11:53 PM
Venus is synonymous with 'values' to me. What the person likes, how they express affection, what they want in a relationship be it romantic or otherwise...it's all an expression of what are the person's values. A Venus in a water sign values devotion, for example, and that shines through in their interactions.IP: Logged |
goatcat
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posted April 05, 2013 12:02 AM
When and how is your Venus developed? IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted April 05, 2013 12:09 AM
Like anything else, really. It comes with its own set of pros and cons. Work to ease the cons and it will develop with the rest of you.  IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 05, 2013 12:10 AM
Through your love and art. Probably starts with your family and how loving they are. If you come from a family who are kinda cold, you might have Venus in Capricorn, while demonstrative, affectionate family might produce someone with Venus in Cancer. Someone who was raised in an orphanage, you might see Venus in Aries.If you come from a loving home, chances are you will attract loving friends and later a loving partner into your life. If your parents value art, singing, dancing, they might have gotten you lessons which would help you develop artistic ability which might mean a well aspected, angular Venus in a sign like Libra. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 05, 2013 12:19 AM
Venus was goddess of love and beauty. It represents, what you love, how you love, whom you love, what you attract to yourself and what you are attracted to in the esthetic sense like your tastes in art, music, food, decor, fashion, etc.I think it's always there in a core sense, but also developes with experience. You might think back to when you were very young and what you considered "pretty" and how that matured over time as you were exposed to a wider range of things. IP: Logged |
odessamoon
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posted April 05, 2013 12:45 AM
I think of my Venus as unchanging -- how it is expressed may change slightly, just because I'm now an adult, but the core is there.Having Venus in Cancer, I find the following things pleasing: family, food, loyalty, and a sense of belonging. This has never really changed for me. Even though my family is not very warm or demonstrative, I still derive warm fuzzy feelings when I see other families interact and be outwardly loving towards each other (and I know that my own family has a different way of showing they care). As I kid, I felt very loved when someone fed me or even gave me something little, like a cookie. As an adult, I find pleasure in nurturing others and feeding them ... welcoming them into my home. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted April 05, 2013 01:37 AM
^^ I don't think the development of your venus sign depends on how affectionate was your childhood home. This topic is quite interesting. I was thinking about how I was growing up,how different a person I have become now. If you knew me when I was small you would never have guessed that I have a stellium in Leo.I was a typical Cappy rising lol, too serious for my own good,too mature for my age,not the kind of girl you would want in your party.Now am totally different but still a cap rising deep beneath my leo exterior,it's just that I have come to terms with so many things that made me sad.I believe the ''happy signs'' develop when you are ready,when you let them inside otherwise the ''sad,gloomy,depressive aspects'' will have a tendency to take over. Both are within you. It's like we have two wolves inside of us, the one that wins is the one we allow to breed. IP: Logged |
goatcat
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posted April 05, 2013 02:07 AM
From my observations, I believe my boyfriend developed his Venus in Taurus when he met his ex, who's Venus is also in Taurus. She told me that before he met her, he wouldn't spend a dime on anyone. IP: Logged |
goatcat
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posted April 05, 2013 02:09 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Through your love and art. Probably starts with your family and how loving they are. If you come from a family who are kinda cold, you might have Venus in Capricorn, while demonstrative, affectionate family might produce someone with Venus in Cancer. Someone who was raised in an orphanage, you might see Venus in Aries.If you come from a loving home, chances are you will attract loving friends and later a loving partner into your life. If your parents value art, singing, dancing, they might have gotten you lessons which would help you develop artistic ability which might mean a well aspected, angular Venus in a sign like Libra.
What about Venus in Pisces? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 05, 2013 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by goatcat:
What about Venus in Pisces?
Venus is exalted in Pisces so it naturally means there are plenty of opportunities for Venusian attributes to develop throughout your life. IP: Logged |
Jkitty
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posted April 05, 2013 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Venus is exalted in Pisces so it naturally means there are plenty of opportunities for Venusian attributes to develop throughout your life.
Not necessarily. My childhood was slim pickings for developing my venus tastes. My parents would not spend money on the kind of clothes and things I liked or cultural enrichment, and the public schools didn't have funds for much beyond the 3Rs as far as cultural exposure goes, so my venus didn't "take off" until my late teens and early 20s after I was working regularly and could afford to do what I liked. I have a feeling someone with a venus in Sagitarrius who loves travel might be the same way. It probably has to do with the venus sign and the parenting as well as the aspects. And since venus in Pisces rules my Libra ascendent, it even impacted my appearance! IP: Logged |
freebrainstorms
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posted April 05, 2013 09:07 PM
venus in pisces too and as a kid i gravitated towards watercolours, loved to dance, and poetry, and to me at least those things perfectly spell out venus in pisces. i'm sure you had things like that that were also present at a young age as well. I do agree with you though, that your venus becomes more prominent later on - i think it has to do more with coming to understand yourself as a person more than anything else.my family didn't spend a lot of money of clothes either, they were simply things you put on your body so you weren't naked. However as i grew older, i became aware of how important my aesthetic was to me, (funnily enough, it was a lovely taurus/libra who helped me discover the ways) in terms of self-confidence, self-respect, and how much i valued being able to use my own aesthetic body as a way to artistically express myself. (unsurprisingly venus in 1st lol) THAT to me is a perfect example of how my own venus in pisces developed, yet was always an underlying factor in myself. I hope my story helps/ed. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 05, 2013 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by Jkitty:
Not necessarily. My childhood was slim pickings for developing my venus tastes. My parents would not spend money on the kind of clothes and things I liked or cultural enrichment, and the public schools didn't have funds for much beyond the 3Rs as far as cultural exposure goes, so my venus didn't "take off" until my late teens and early 20s after I was working regularly and could afford to do what I liked. I have a feeling someone with a venus in Sagitarrius who loves travel might be the same way. It probably has to do with the venus sign and the parenting as well as the aspects. And since venus in Pisces rules my Libra ascendent, it even impacted my appearance!
You are probably physically attractive, very pretty or beautiful, one, or your personality makes you appear beautiful to others even if you have so-so looks. IP: Logged |
Xiiro
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posted April 05, 2013 10:42 PM
Venus is the facet of our reality which identifies and relates to qualities, based on how much attachment or aversion they inspire in us. That sounds a bit cold and technical though so here are some other ways to look at Venus. In kabbalah, Venus and Mercury function together on the same level and together manifest as our ability to identify objects (external and internal). Without Venus, the world would be well outlined and shaded to give dimension, but color, smell, touch, taste, sound and sense would lack quality. A rose would be red, but red would not have meaning beyond pigment. It would smell like a rose, but the scent wouldn't inspire enjoyment in you, it would just smell like a rose. The same would be the case if you smelled poop, both would equally smell and you would feel no particular attraction or aversion in the presence of either. The world might as well be drawn in black and white. Without Mercury the world would be filled with colors, smells, sounds, flavors, tactile experiences, and sensations, but they would all sort of bleed into each other. There would be no definition or dimension to what we experience, just sensual overload of enjoyable and repulsive experiences overloading our every moment. None of the experiences could be identified or classified, ordered or comprehended, because our capacity to communicate the experience in a comprehensive way (to our self or others) just wouldn't exist. Both scenarios commonly happen in stroke victims who lose a large portion of their left or right brain. Those who lose their right brain function tend to become very calculated and lose artistic/abstract mental functionality. Those who lose their left brain function lose the ability to process reality in an organized, defined, and pattern based way. Like Jill - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU Of course the left and right brain are not exclusively related to Mercury and Venus, but I found it fascinating that the loss of either side relates to kabbalah. Venus also represents what an object (person) is wired to appreciate when they relate with other objects. Part of Venus’s job is to identify as many qualities as possible, then seek to re-experience the qualities it identifies as “pleasurable”. This is why Venus is commonly associated with values; because it determines the value of an object/experience based on its qualities and inspires us to repeat experiences we consider “of good value” or avoid experiences we consider “of poor value”. Another function of Venus is to help us deepen our sense of self and develop personal value/worth. The Zodiac path begins with Aries, who emerges an undefined individual. It is up to Aries to establish an identity and carve a place in the world for their unique brand of self. After that has been done, the path progresses into Taurus and here we can see Venus in action. Taurus is about learning to understand the self by discovering its likes and dislikes. Taurus must taste each experience and savor it in order to truly grasp an appreciation of it. Once Taurus has collected its list of likes and dislikes, it tends to adhere to those likes and dislikes as solid methods for enjoying life and avoiding discomfort. This establishes qualities of the self, “I enjoy this, so I am therefor this kind of person” and adds depth/value/aesthetic to the self as it evolves. This whole process helps us develop a style and results in attracting others who have a similar aesthetic or who are wired to appreciate the aesthetic we produce. As for how/when Venus develops. I believe all planets begin their paths of evolution at birth and become more complex as the chart progresses.
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goatcat
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posted April 06, 2013 11:25 AM
Very interesting thank you Xiiro.IP: Logged |
moonram
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posted April 06, 2013 02:58 PM
I was once given a book called "Complete Book of the Zodiac" by Jonathan Cainer and I really enjoy his Venus descriptions. (Far too bold of a title, though: I doubt there are any "complete" books of the zodiac.) I would be willing to type yours for you.The responses in this thread are VERY interesting to me. I hope I remember to come back to re-read and post my thoughts. (The threads here get pushed to back pages quickly, and I don't visit the message board often.) IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted April 06, 2013 03:48 PM
How and when does your Venus sign develop?From the very beginning, starting with your immediate family.
Venus describes your sense of self worth.
If you start your life feeling wanted and loved you are going to get a sense of your value (self worth) within the family unit. All positive feedback you receive from your immediate surroundings contributes to your over all sense of well being. ------------------
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ELoveCherishEndure
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posted April 06, 2013 03:59 PM
One big issue, Venus is Sagittarius is supposed to be unpleasant but not as rough as it was. I had a childhood that I felt nobody saw what I was worth except me. I most definitely started feeling my fiery Venus at this time of my life. I think it is a very individual experience. It is just such pain I've felt over the years. I think that my Venus must be nowhere near developed in the love department but more in the values department.IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted April 06, 2013 05:13 PM
It's interesting how we are relating our Venus sign to our family and childhood here... since usually I think of the Moon first when it comes to that. But I can see evidence of my Venus in Scorpio in my childhood as well. In childhood there was traces of what I would later find pleasant in life... I was always drawn to ouija, tarot, horror movies, Halloween. I always found comfort in these 'weirdo' things. At the least I was not frightened of them. I was intrigued and they made me happy. I have my Venus conjunct Jupiter and trine Saturn [widely], also sextile my Moon and Neptune+Uranus. So there's a lot going on. I feel like my family showered me with a lot of gifts and attention but it often had ploys and manipulations behind it. Meaning to get me to like one person who was jealous and insecure more than my other family members. There was an especial competition between my Scorpio grandma and Cancer mom. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 06, 2013 05:52 PM
I have always had attention issues. When I was a kid, people worried I received too much attention and it would warp my personality. My mom, in particular, worried about that. I had one those childhoods where attention issues took center stage and they say Venus in Leo is all about attention issues.IP: Logged |
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posted April 06, 2013 07:07 PM
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Xiiro: Part of Venus’s job is to identify as many qualities as possible, then seek to re-experience the qualities it identifies as “pleasurable”. This is why Venus is commonly associated with values; because it determines the value of an object/experience based on its qualities and inspires us to repeat experiences we consider “of good value” or avoid experiences we consider “of poor value”.
Sounds way better than what I said!  IP: Logged |
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