posted April 05, 2013 06:44 PM            

Does it have a love stellium?

posted April 05, 2013 06:50 PM            

So, I will post it tomorrow and let you die of curiosity in the meantime

posted April 06, 2013 06:38 PM            

"It's a very Plutonian connection."
Though we do not have Pluto-heavy-synastry. But of course since it is a natal theme for both of us it comes up in the composite again. And well his Pluto in exact aspect to my Vertex-Sun/Moon-mp could probably be termed plutonic.

". Lots of angular house activity, which adds to the feeling of instant connection/fascination. "
Yes, more and more I think these angular house synastry is a biggie.
Interestingly I`ve experienced stronger Venus-Mars-stuff before, also Venus-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Sun-Pluto etc., but even without these obvious aspects, I do feel more strongly attracted to him than to anyone I can think of in the past.

"omposite Moon/Venus in the 12th - feelings are kept secret but we both know there's something in the air!"
Yes, interestingly this Moon/Venus is a "skipped step" - thus karmic-, as it is square the nodal axis, and so fitting to have it in the 12th house - doubly karmic.

Also what I find very interesting is this:

composite Moon is conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp
composite Sun is conjunct his Sun/moon-mp

When we met Tr Jupiter was conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp and composite MOon
Also Tr Juno was conjunct his Sun/Moon-mp and composite Sun

Amazingly in the Davison, Sun and Moon are opposite the composite placements. Now with Sun this happens often, but with Moon? Not so much.

So Davison Sun is opposing his Sun/Moon-mp
Davison Moon is opposing my Sun/Moon-mp

and there are three planets in domicile in the Davison. Moon in Cancer in 7th house. Mercury in Gemini in 5th house. Venus in Taurus in 3rd house (it is conjunct Mars, but to spoil the fun it is also opposite Uranus and squaring Saturn. It could have been so nice. lol)
However I put more stock in composite though.

(and my pr Psyche was conjunct his natal Eros. with tr Psyche opposing composite Eros. ol)

"Your Moon in his 12th, similar vibe. Dreamy, blurry and yet very attractive energy."
I guess I play quite the elusive role in this synastry. Not only because I am in his 12th house (and my chartruler is as well!). but my Neptune is squaring his Mars-Jupiter-conjunction as well.

"And your NN is in there somewhere too, at least by sign."
Actually his DESC-ruler is conjunct my NN and ASC.
Plus Mercury is the ruler of HIS NN, and sits on my NN.

"His Mars/Jupiter touching your Venus.. mm that looks good"
It is a tad wide though. 4-5 degres. HOwever my Venus completes a Grand Trine with his Mars/Jupiter and Chiron.

"Funny the Moon/Pluto conjunction in the meeting chart! Intense feeling right away. Whoa."
Yes, definitely.
Maybe this is the reason in those pivotal moments (and the composites) Moon lands in SCorpio so often. lol

"And composite Venus square Pluto! Puh-lease. It'll drive you nuts in no time "
Yes. my natal Saturn is opposing composite Venus - this def. describes my hesitancy and the holding-back-pattern quite well.

the composite Moon-Mars-square overlays his natal Venus-Pluto-square.
composite MOon conjunct his n Venus, which in turn is on the exact mp of my Moon/Venus.
composite Mars (and NN) conjunct his n Pluto.
Venus rules his 7th house, Pluto rules his 8th house and sits in his 7th.

"Do you intend to talk to him, sometime?"
Yes, I do. And I have a feeling it might happen more quickly than I am thinking of right now.
Just a feeling in my gut.

posted April 07, 2013 03:38 AM            

The comp itself has Sun opp NN.
That NN falls on my natal Mars.
For that estimate the comp NN is also conj the comp ASC, which makes the comp Sun conj the comp DSC.
Comp Venus is also conj comp Sun/DSC.
Uranus & Pluto aren't doing much of significance.
BUT comp Uranus is conj my natal DSC if that matters.
Comp Neptune is conj my natal Moon/Venus.
Comp Pluto squares my natal Sun.

posted April 07, 2013 06:07 AM            

It definitely is an important connection for both of you given that the composite planets touch so many of your natal points.

How sweet, his DSC ruler conjunct your ASC and NN! I definitely think that angular houses and rulers of the angles are very potent in synastry. I like Dawn Bodrogi's point of view on this, she has a very informative site (theinnerwheel) where she explains it all - she's actually the reason I see astrology the way I do, haha.

And Sun/Moon mp is the place where we can feel "whole" and integrated.. so with composite planets touching it, it may feel - at least for a short while - that the connection between you makes it possible to feel whole again and it kind of fills a void inside.. I guess.

Oh composite Venus opposite your Saturn. I was checking some composite charts of relationships I could feel were "strained" and not very light-hearted, and everytime cSaturn was touching my or the other person's natal Sun or something else very personal. Maybe with Venus it's different although I think it kind of blocks the flow of everything Venusian - seduction, charm, affection, open lovingness. But in your case, given that it's your Saturn and the composite Venus, it means that you are the one blocking the Venusian stuff because of your own Saturn, if that makes sense. So I guess it's not that bad if you can deal with that Saturn of yours!

And I'm glad to know you're willing to talk to him! Initiate something, I'm sure you'll learn some things about yourself (that's usually how karmic bonds work).

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Lonake,

posted April 07, 2013 06:15 AM            

So here it is:

Note the biggie on the MC! It looks perf
Annnnd Moon is in Scorp.
tNeptune is on the ASC, squaring the whole thing. Wow!

posted April 07, 2013 06:17 AM            

I would only check for composite of your natal with the moment, as this already shos your involvement with that timeframe.
I would also check for the usual transits to the natal though.
But I def. also noticed that there were tight connections to natal placements. So maybe it means something after all.

In the case of the composite I posted with the Moon-Pluto-NN conjunction in Scorpio - it fell right onto my Valentine-Mesopotamia conjunction in 12th house, and even though the musical was set in Egypt, Isuddenly had such a strong "Mesopotamia-feeling". lol

"The comp itself has Sun opp NN."
Something from the past resurfacting again?
What does mars mean in your chart?

"For that estimate the comp NN is also conj the comp ASC, which makes the comp Sun conj the comp DSC. "
Jeez.
That is so strong!
Did you meet someone? Maybe a past life person, who played a role for your present path as well, no matter how minor or major that role would be?

"Comp Venus is also conj comp Sun/DSC."
Wow!

From your list, I start thinking we have to pay attention as well, what in the natal is triggered, at least by tight conjunctions.

posted April 07, 2013 07:07 AM            

"given that the composite planets touch so many of your natal points."
Yes, I seem to find this of more and more importance. No matter what the composite shows, it seems to be important that the people relate to it personally.

You can have the best of relationships as per composite; it will not matter if you don´t care for the relationship!

The worst case scenario I find is if only one person´s natal is relating to important composite placements.
So I am kinda glad that he "suffers" from it, too. Just kidding. But really, I found it intriguing to see that his Venus-Pluto-square is so strongly tied to the composite. Stronger than my own actually.

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How sweet, his DSC ruler conjunct your ASC and NN!"
Yes, it is also his IC-ruler.
But it is not only him. my Desc-ruler is conjunct his Sun, Moon and MC. And widely conjunct his ASC-ruler.

The funny thing is our IC-rulers are conjunct by 4 degrees (of course it means that his DESC-ruler is conjunct my IC!-ruler as well), and he`s been growing up in the city next to the town my great grandmother was living, and as a child I would be in his hometown very often. Hey I might even have crossed paths between him efore as a child! lol
Actually as soon as I saw him, there was a memory surfacing from my childhood in this city. I don´t know if it really was him in the memory, or if he just triggered that memory tzhrough his presence. BTW that was before i even knew he was living there. lol

I" definitely think that angular houses and rulers of the angles are very potent in synastry"
Yes, I agree with that.
There is a reason why they are angular.
Somehow whatever is happening there is being pulled to the "forefront" and demands attention.
it`s like the planets saying: Hey, look at us!

" I like Dawn Bodrogi's point of view on this, she has a very informative site (theinnerwheel) where she explains it all - she's actually the reason I see astrology the way I do, haha."
Oh I love her site!
Well, I was thinking along these lines already before, but stumbling over her site was such a big confirmation for me. And then of course I learned some more things as well. Or let`s put it this way, Iwas vaguely aware of them before, but she had a way to verbalize what I was thinking.

I pay much credit to her to having the courage to say that Saturn is a relationship-planet. Because he is!
He is the natural counterpart of Moon, like Mars is to Venus.
But people do not like to hear that.
however, it fits even astronomically.
Moon is the first "planet", Saturn the last of the traditional ones. They build a bracket for the traditional planets. The sphere of daily life (as opposed to the evolutionary, spiritual and so on outer planets).

Interestingly Venus and Mars are ALSO a bracket, as they are closest to Earth! (excluding Moon of course).

But what really intrigued me was the fact that Moon and Saturn mirror each other astronomically, as Moon takes 29 days for one complete circle, Saturn takes 29 years.
I thought that was just amazing.

And to be honest, you can have as much Venus-Mars as you want. Attraction will not make you be able to live with each othe for a long period of time, if you don´t have the same "way" or agreement of how to lead your life, how to build a home, how to share responsibilities.
Venus and Mars, 1st and 7th house, even 5th and 8th house might draw you in, make you go crazy with hormonal stuff, and really really attracted, but you will need some Moon and Saturn or 4th and 10th house stuff to materialize or anchor the connection in the real world. You need an emotional hook and you need agreement over values and a shared perspective.
It might sound boring, but that is where I have seen so many relationships break despite deep love and attraction; I also believe that is the reason why my parents are still together,w hen so many other coules split up. Sure they have a strong love and attraction going on, but they also have a "shared vision of relating".

And Sun/Moon mp is the place where we can fee"l "whole" and integrated.."
Yes. And in our case my Sun is also conjunct his Sun/Moon mp.

His Venus is too far off to be conjunct my Sun/Moon-mp though (4 degrees, and I really cut these at 2 degrees at most), but his Pluto exactly squaring my Sun/Moon-mp is of course very transformational for me.

"ould feel were "strained" and not very light-hearted, and everytime cSaturn was touching my or the other person's natal Sun or something else very personal."
It`s funny. He is so carefree, spontaneous, funny, creative and such things.
And then he also has his Saturn conjunct his DESC (and Vertex) and Pluto in 7th house squaring intercepted DESC-ruler Venus.
Almost looks like a bit of a split personality. lol
He also has Saturn squaring his Sun-Moon-MC. So maybe not THAT carefree into the depth of his personality.
Of course that means that his Saturn squares my Sun and Mercury.
But then again I seem to actually LOOK for these aspects. Saturn-Moon or Saturn-Sun. Maybe it is because I have Saturn quinkunx Moon myself, and therefore am drawn to a bit of serious streak underneath, or somehow subconsciously feel a need to "work" on this issue.

" But in your case, given that it's your Saturn and the composite Venus, it means that you are the one blocking the Venusian stuff because of your own Saturn, if that makes sense."
Yes, makes sense.
I flat out deny that there could even be something like an attraction. like I just don´t want to face it. lol
I guess I can come across as very defensive,a nd that of course blocks any kind of sharing of Venusian things.
However, at the same time Saturn is highly relationship-oriented for me. Dispositing my own Venus and being placed in 8th house. Okay let me rephrase that. Saturn in my chart has much to do with sexuality. There is a lot of work to be done there. LOL
And though I am used to defensive deflective ignorant behavious (SAturn is good doing that if in denial phase), everytime he is around (and the composite kicks in), I am practically pushed into the very fact that indeed there is this one area I am avoiding like the devil holy water. LOL

In this particular connection it is even worse. As this very Saturn also squares his Pluto, not a big deal normally. But his Pluto rules HIS 8th house and sits in his 7th house. And my Saturn conjuncts the cusp of his 5th house. Looks like I am the big Naysayer here.
Now, carefree or not, the ruler of his 5th house is squared by saturn. See the mirror-function?

As a matter of fact we both have the ruler of 5th house squaring the ruler of 11th house: conflict between giving and receiving love, for both of us.
I guess he is overcompensating and I am avoiding. LOL

Interestingly My Moon is trine his Pluto with 4 degrees as well, making for a circuit of my Moon and Saturn and his Pluto.
my Moon rules my 8th house and sits in my 2nd hous
my Saturn rules my 2nd house and sits in my 8th house
his Pluto rules his 8th house and sits in his 7th house.
(More Venus-Pluto through house-stuff).

This synastry chart is more a psychological casestudy than a synastry I guess. lol

"that's usually how karmic bonds work)."
Karmic for sure!

Actually my Part of Karma is on 28 Gemini in my 7th house, right on his IC and opposing his Sun and Moon.
His Part of Karma is on 25 Sagittarius conjunct my Sun and Mercury. lol

Plus my prenatal Solar ecclipse is conjunct his chartruler, and his prenatal lunar ecclipse is conjunct my chartruler.

posted April 07, 2013 07:13 AM            

soulmates?

posted April 07, 2013 04:58 PM            

I don't have much to add, really

It's impressive how you can just analyze so many things from the charts. It seems that there are tons of connections between you and that guy, and it all makes sense. Crazy..

I can only imagine how that makes you feel!
But, just go with the flow - try to be open to possiblities, don't be scared of anything and see what comes out of it I'm sure it's gonna be a very interesting experience! (well, it has been so far, actually haha).

About our composite: I know right?! It looks insane! I can't get over it The whole stellium falls on my DSC/NN.
Funny how the Moon is unaspected!
And ASC is supported by exact sextiles from Saturn and Jupiter, though it squares the stellium on the MC. Interesting stuff!

posted July 14, 2013 01:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Don`t think about, don´t tell me it`s bullocks, just go and DO it.
Make a composite of your natal and an eventchart/ transitchart of a time that was highly important for you.
THEN come back and tell me you haven`t found anything!

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WOW! I did a composite of my natal and an "event" where I met a performer and we made eye contact that lasted for about 10 seconds that left me tongue tied; I've been fixated on him ever since. I could estimate the time of that encounter to within about a 15 minute time frame. The transits to the composite of my natal and this "event" (only counting conjunctions) are as follows:

T Venus conj. C Antivertex - 0 deg. 4 min.
T Venus conj. C ASC - 1 deg. 39 min.
T Mars conj. C Pluto - 1 deg. 11 min.
T Nnode conj. C Sun - 1 deg. 0 min.
T Jupiter conj. C Uranus - 0 deg. 47'
T Pluto conj. C Neptune - 0 deg. 39 min.
T Moon conj. C Venus - 0 deg. 52' (used Planetwatcher to get Moon's degree for the time).

The composite geometry itself is quite shocking with THREE separate kites:

Grand trine of Moon-Mercury-Chiron with Mars opposing Chiron, all with less than 3 degrees of orb.

Grand trine of Moon-Chiron-Pluto with Neptune opposing Moon, all within 5 degrees of orb.

Grand trine of ASC-Sun/Mercury-Jupiter with Venus opposing Sun, all within 5 degrees of orb.

AND there is a Grand Cross of Venus opposing Sun/Mercury and Mars opposing Chiron with Sun/Mercury-Venus-Mars-Chiron all squaring each other.

The Vertex is conjunct the DES, so those axes are right on top of each other within 2 degrees of orb.

The Nnode is conjunct the IC, so those axes are also aligned within 5 degrees of orb.

posted July 14, 2013 06:41 PM            

All planets are conjunct with event + his birth chart in 1st house

Mine doesn't look too good though. It has chiron conjunct nn

posted July 14, 2013 06:45 PM            

All planets are conjunct with event + his birth chart in 1st house

Mine doesn't look too good though. It has chiron conjunct nn

posted July 15, 2013 02:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
IThe whole stellium falls on my DSC/NN.

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posted July 15, 2013 03:02 AM            

interestingly Tr Neptune is exactly conjunct our c-ASC, did you notice?

c-AVX conjuncts my Jupiter on 11 Pisces and CERES on 9 Pisces

c-Pluto conjuncts my Uranus on 1 Scorpio and my 11th house cusp

c-MC, c-Venus-Mercury-Mars exactly on my AMOR on 2 Sag, and also conj. my Mars on 5 Sag (all in 12th house though)
I would also conjunct the wide conj to ASC

c-Sun and NN conjunct my Mars on 5 Sag, ASC on 7 Sag and NN on 10 Sag

c-Uranus exactly on my Neptune-NN-conjunction

c-Neptune conjunct my Sun and Mercury on 25-26 Sag

c-Jupiter exactly conjunct my Venus

posted July 15, 2013 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Jkitty:
WOW! I did a composite of my natal and an "event" where I met a performer and we made eye contact that lasted for about 10 seconds that left me tongue tied; I've been fixated on him ever since. I could estimate the time of that encounter to within about a 15 minute time frame. The transits to the composite of my natal and this "event" (only counting conjunctions) are as follows:

T Venus conj. C Antivertex - 0 deg. 4 min.
T Venus conj. C ASC - 1 deg. 39 min.
T Mars conj. C Pluto - 1 deg. 11 min.
T Nnode conj. C Sun - 1 deg. 0 min.
T Jupiter conj. C Uranus - 0 deg. 47'
T Pluto conj. C Neptune - 0 deg. 39 min.
T Moon conj. C Venus - 0 deg. 52' (used Planetwatcher to get Moon's degree for the time).

The composite geometry itself is quite shocking with THREE separate kites:

Grand trine of Moon-Mercury-Chiron with Mars opposing Chiron, all with less than 3 degrees of orb.

Grand trine of Moon-Chiron-Pluto with Neptune opposing Moon, all within 5 degrees of orb.

Grand trine of ASC-Sun/Mercury-Jupiter with Venus opposing Sun, all within 5 degrees of orb.

AND there is a Grand Cross of Venus opposing Sun/Mercury and Mars opposing Chiron with Sun/Mercury-Venus-Mars-Chiron all squaring each other.

The Vertex is conjunct the DES, so those axes are right on top of each other within 2 degrees of orb.

The Nnode is conjunct the IC, so those axes are also aligned within 5 degrees of orb.

I've never seen anything like this! I'm holding my breath until he performs again in my area. I've GOT to meet him again!!!

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it looks very significant

posted July 15, 2013 03:05 AM            

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Originally posted by EmpressMendez:
When I met the father of my kids:

All planets are conjunct with event + his birth chart in 1st house

Mine doesn't look too good though. It has chiron conjunct nn

Moon and Mercury in 7th sun in 8th venus in 9th square Uranus. Uranus and Neptune conjunct ascendant and each other, which is w.e. that's all I can note

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Was that meeting with him Uranian-Neptunian in nature? It should figure in as it is tied to the ASC.
Venus in dynamic aspect to an angle often signifies love entering one´s life btw. Even in square aspect.

posted July 15, 2013 03:11 AM            

What do you think? What kind of time am I going to have?
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r111/Darkdreamer_02/astro_621gw_02_951_cerdwen_summernight257958855_zps34f6ea83.gif

posted July 15, 2013 03:59 AM            

Mine - Actually, now that I added Juno and Vertex it makes sense..

posted July 15, 2013 04:38 AM            

Composite:

Capricorn Sun, merc, mars and Aquarius neptune stellium in the 8th, opposed by jupiter, trined by Taurus moon in the 11th. Moon also conjuncts chiron.

Uranus ruler of the 9th in the 9th house, squared by Saturn. Pluto and NN conjunct in the 5th, Venus in the 7th.

The composite ASC conjuncts my natal asc by 2 degrees plus it's in the anaretic degree. The composite stellium conjuncts my saturn.

These look like unfortunate placements but I think that the significance here is the 'death' of my student life and the beginning of another chapter. haha

posted July 15, 2013 04:58 AM            

Sun + Mercury + Vertex conjunct within 2 degrees on both our Natal South Nodes... in the 7th in Gemini....

& looooots of other aspects..

Astrology keeps on amazing me!

posted July 15, 2013 06:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually our composite triggers quite a few natal placements for me.

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I've noticed that!
Really cool.

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interestingly Tr Neptune is exactly conjunct our c-ASC, did you notice?

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Yes! Totally explains my vision of you - I must say I imagine you as a smart fairy princess!

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Originally posted by Lunae:
Jupiter opposing the stellium in the 8th would indicate some sort of 'liberation'. Well, it's graduation day so it makes sense haha

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