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foxxyxo
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posted April 06, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so i have a SN cancer and NN capricorn

i think the main reasons i dont like being around my fam is because their views and beliefs and attitudes about life are so different from mine, so i constantly feel judged and am referred to as "rebellious" and "crazy aunt" lol but for real after awhile it gets annoying and makes me think they don't take me seriously..

my mom also fears the world and whenever i bring up an idea, shell respond with idk you cant trust those
people, or thats a bad area, or just stay in the house where your safe, never wants my sister to move out (shes 25) -_- , no encouragement to be independent whatsoever, constantly guilts me if i sleepiver my boyfriends house for a couple nights, ill come back home and everytime shes like i havnt seen u in forevvvvvverrrrrrrr. and act all sad like come on encourage and support me to adventure out!!!!!!!!

my dad is very distant is getting better with that though, but also is so black and white and dry and sometimes his interactions with people are very melancholy so i push that away. depression runs on his side of family, could be why, but nontheless this has affected me my whole life, being a girl and all, not really having a close relationship with your dad....

theyre conservative, like simply life, not being too flashy or your vain attitude they have

where as for me i like to be a free spirit, outgoing, love to live life to fullest, model (they hate this), dance ( dont like that too much either ), be with friends, and have an open mind and stick up for ehat i feel is right, call me outspoken whatever....idk who i got these traits from in my family but i stick out like a sore thumb

i act like a total different person too, moody more quiet, sebody might think im depressed with how i am around my fam but once im with friends or anybody else im so happy, talkative, laughing alot, just happy!!!!!!

really sucks cause i feel no support from them and cant stand them
for more than a day

NN is cappy so would this make me want to pull away from family even more? i feel a constant need to get ot of my house and build an awesome career for myself...so much happier after i leave

they seem to enjoy my sister, but she is very quiet, very introverted, very shy, insecure, almost helpless, i mever wanna be like that just to
be loved, what the hell its like they encourage those traits or something

my bro on other hand is just like me, really happy and funny with friends but acts really quiet around my family, one of his friends parents talked
to my mom and was just raving how funny my brother is and my mom replied that she was sad she never gets to see that side of him that she never knew he had

i wonder why its the same for him as well as for me
simce they dont support what i like to fo and nn cappy all about business n recognitiom i think it adds
emphasis even more with my discomfort with family


anybody else see their sn/nn work
out in their lives?

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 06, 2013 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With Capricorn NN you could yearn to break free from your family and create your own niche in life and may benefit from the experience.

I have NN in Pisces 6th house square Mars trine Neptune, SN in Virgo 12th house square Mars conjunct Pluto sextile Neptune. My chart is trying to tell me I have incarnated in this axis more than once since it involves the 6th/12th houses and opposite signs and my sun is in Virgo so this particular axis is prominent in my soul or something since the SN/NN is supposed to indicate karma and past lives.


I do see the effects everyday. I am very spacy and in my own world most the time. My imagination is vivid and I enjoy exploring it. I don't like drudgery (Virgo SN.) I am very creative, like art/movies/books/music and astrology. I wonder if Astrology is really ruled by Pisces/Neptune? I have a strong Uranus in my chart too so I don't know. Could go either way.

I also like water and swimming and would like to live on a boat or be a mermaid. I like all that sea stuff, islands.

I have a disdain for mundane existence and yearn for what's out-of-this-world and obsess on the cosmos at night, drawing charts of the constellations, memorizing the names of all the stars, finding them in the night sky.

Am an avid cloud watcher and fancier.

I am aware of infinity and how insignificant and small our time on earth is in the grand scheme of things and this undermines my ambition big time. It's my number one ambition zapper, this cosmic revelation.

Decided a while ago soul chose this life for it's unique set of trials and tribulations, am sure I will experience liberation (maybe?)

I also tend to trust providence a lot more than most and live day to day, not worrying about tomorrow. I never worry. Everyone around me does. Not me. I just think whatever will be will be. That's supposed to be a Pisces NN thing, trusting in providence and not thinking about things too much. Just exist.

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Swathi
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posted April 06, 2013 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swathi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by foxxyxo:
so i have a SN cancer and NN capricorn

i think the main reasons i dont like being around my fam is because their views and beliefs and attitudes about life are so different from mine, so i constantly feel judged and am referred to as "rebellious" and "crazy aunt"


Totally relating with this part..have NN in capricorn,..

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 06, 2013 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sooo feel your pain. I'm sick of my family. We have almost nothing in common and I avoid them as much as possible. They don't accept me. I don't care about their approval but they seem to think they have the right to change me and that is really annoying. I can't wait to move out. And I don't think I'll contact them often when I'm finally out of here. Cancer SN, Cap NN.

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Leocassandra
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posted April 06, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Leocassandra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh wow im Cap NN and I don't feel like you guys. However my NN is conjunct Moon and Nadir.

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posted April 06, 2013 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is so crazy! I feel the exact same way about my family and I also have a Capricorn NN and Cancer SN! I never put two and two together before.

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foxxyxo
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posted April 06, 2013 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahah wow im glad you guys can relate
maybe this really is
a
huge north node thing, since
our sn is in cancer (family,home) nn cap is constantly reminding us we need to get
out and seperate and take over the world

the nn was just a guess but with more than one of u guys agreeing, im sure this is definately why

my sun conjuncts my nn so it intensifys it even more


i hope we all get the recognition we deserve or it will be sad lonely life for us

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I'm so cappy
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posted April 06, 2013 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
we need to get
out and seperate and take over the world

quote:
i hope we all get the recognition we deserve or it will be sad lonely life for us

My family has always been screwed up so I have no other choice but to run as far as possible if I wanna find balance.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted April 06, 2013 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could be some of this. Maybe a little. If you have Saturn-NN or NN in Cap it might mean being less emotional and more pragmatic. It could also mean being more professional and less sentimental... or maybe it means focusing more on work vs. family...

I feel that the state of your Moon could also show you hating your family being around. Also Chiron. What's going on with those two bodies in your chart?

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mercuranian
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posted April 06, 2013 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sunflower-moon:
That is so crazy! I feel the exact same way about my family and I also have a Capricorn NN and Cancer SN! I never put two and two together before.

same here!!!

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Barbee
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posted April 06, 2013 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say the SN in Cancer (family) would be the reason and maybe something else in your chart.

My SN is in the 11th and I don't seek out friends and I don't have any...lol, I have many acquintances but no friends per se. I don't want someone coming to my home for coffee, I don't want to shop with anyone (I like to shop alone) and I go everywhere I want with my husband who is my best friend.

I never felt comfortable being a friend either.

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Barbee
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posted April 06, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Barbee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops post appeared twice. Sorry about that.

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foxxyxo
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posted April 07, 2013 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i have moon libra sextile mars in 7th house and my chiron is in leo in my 5th house

chiron is trine mercury and opposes sun

hm???? idk my planets seem to be loving lol

it is really funny though how libra works out, i read they nitpick everything about their surroundings and i view my parents personalities as very unbalanced, my mom is overbearing reallyreally lovey, and my dad is complete opposite if that, distant and dry.........i didnt accept my family for the way they were for a long time. i know it sounds mean but its the truth. i thought if they were different id be happier or something, wouldnt feel like such a black sheep. but yea....

i always wished my mom to be less anxiety ridden and less "helicopter" parent and for my dad to be more warm and open, the unbalance i let really get to me and i always had a lot of fairness issues growing up with my siblings...like example, i got sent to boarding school they didnt

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Snorkel
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posted April 07, 2013 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Snorkel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My siblings treat me like craaaap but I do have Chiron in the 3rd so is that really surprising?!

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 07, 2013 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Getting sent to boarding school can be looked at as an opportunity to work on the NN and can lead to rewards in life. It can be anxiety producing because the NN tends to be somewhat unknown to your soul, or maybe just forgotten, so you feel really out of sorts with what it represents from time to time. For instance, you might resent being sent to boarding school when your brothers and sisters did not have to go, might feel left out a little, or unwanted.

Best thing is to think of it from as positive prospective as possible. The Capricorn NN can lead you to develop a great career outside your home and family where you can reach out to new people, and new experiences you could find very enriching.

I guess the best way to think of what your NN represents is, "stepping outside your comfort zone," and people, generally, have good things to say about that, we should all be encouraged to step outside it, etc.

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posted April 07, 2013 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunflower-moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by foxxyxo:
hahah wow im glad you guys can relate
maybe this really is
a
huge north node thing, since
our sn is in cancer (family,home) nn cap is constantly reminding us we need to get
out and seperate and take over the world

the nn was just a guess but with more than one of u guys agreeing, im sure this is definately why

my sun conjuncts my nn so it intensifys it even more


i hope we all get the recognition we deserve or it will be sad lonely life for us



Yeah, I definitely think it makes sense. My sun is conjunct my SN and I feel like that kind of makes it a little bit harder for me to break away from my family because it's what's comfortable. Even though I don't like it lol. My Neptune conjuncts my NN so I feel like that further emphasizes getting away from my family and being completely on my own is ideal for me. Not to say I don't love my family, I do, but uhh I don't know lol. You probably know what I mean.

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posted April 07, 2013 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have nn in cap in h11..

I have no family, only my 2 kids..

I barely know any family members... Also I am an only child... My mom moved away when I was 19, since her maybe 2 or 3 times in 20 yrs.

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foxxyxo
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posted April 07, 2013 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
starlightsmilesupreme,

yea going to boarding school i eventually got to really appreciate it because i really do truly feel like i learned to love myself there, and have met my soulmates there. and now i know people from all over the us, i feel like the world is a much bigger place with more opportunity from being there and i learned my independence which i loved!!!!!!!!!!! i didnt want to go home at all, well i did but not back to my parents

now i feel like im getting into same parents living back with them and i just wanna runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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posted April 08, 2013 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I sooo feel your pain. I'm sick of my family. We have almost nothing in common and I avoid them as much as possible. They don't accept me. I don't care about their approval but they seem to think they have the right to change me and that is really annoying. I can't wait to move out. And I don't think I'll contact them often when I'm finally out of here. Cancer SN, Cap NN.


Thats exactly my case!! So glad you guys feel the same way I do. I have Cancer SN,Capricorn NN.

I like the atmosphere of other families,I just dont like MY family, cause my parents have always been so mean to me.

I crave the time I will be able to move out and live on my own. And I want so much to have my own family when I get older. I want to be a very good momo,someone my children wilk trust and confide in their deepest fears without being made fan of,like it was always in my case.

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posted April 08, 2013 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I've never heard this perspective on Cap NN (feeling that way from a young age), but I can completely relate. I was born and raised in Midwestern suburbia, home of all-American white people, religious fanatics, and "family values", and I've felt like a fish out of water for quite some time. The thought of waking up five or ten years from now as a soccer-mom living ten miles away from my home town literally terrifies me lol.

Building a successful career has seemed like my only way out. Don't get me wrong, I'm very loyal to loved ones and ideally I'd like to have a family of my own some day, but I've always known I want more than just that out of life. Plus I have Cap Sun and Saturn conjunct NN so my drive to get out of here is stronnng. But yet here I am, age 22, to the sadistic joy of my parents still stuck close to home even after leaving twice...

By my Saturn return though I will have established roots elsewhere, and that's a promise to myself I'm determined to keep lol

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Lazyscarecrow
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posted April 08, 2013 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trust me


I know EXACTLY how you feel.


I try not to admit it out of love for my family but there are times I want to be further and further away from family drama. And them in general. I'll just say my decisions don't coincide with what they (family) expect of me. It never has and I don't believe it ever will. I will not make myself out to be a victim because I have definitely not been the best daughter/sister/relative but my role is definitely playing out to where I will have to work on independence. My family supports me, but most certainly not emotionally. If anything, most are abusive emotionally. And they treat my sibling better, who is the exact opposite of me. Dutiful, not emotional except for irritated or angry, happy to sit in the house all week and head of household. And we used to be close. Now she resents me.

It's like, I cannot please my family and please my self at the same time. I have to do one or the other, at the cost of whichever I don't choose to concede to. And believe me, when you said you like to leave the house, that really hit home! All this is on my mind constantly now, since I have a bunch of planets transiting my 4th house (mostly the Aries ones)

I also have Cap NN (1st house) Cancer SN (7th house)

Then again, maybe I am just whining like a teenager or being selfish. I can never tell..

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its_aqua
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posted April 08, 2013 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by FireMoon:
Wow, I've never heard this perspective on Cap NN (feeling that way from a young age), but I can completely relate. I was born and raised in Midwestern suburbia, home of all-American white people, religious fanatics, and "family values", and I've felt like a fish out of water for quite some time. The thought of waking up five or ten years from now as a soccer-mom living ten miles away from my home town literally terrifies me lol.

Building a successful career has seemed like my only way out. Don't get me wrong, I'm very loyal to loved ones and ideally I'd like to have a family of my own some day, but I've always known I want more than just that out of life. Plus I have Cap Sun and Saturn conjunct NN so my drive to get out of here is stronnng. But yet here I am, age 22, to the sadistic joy of my parents still stuck close to home even after leaving twice...

By my Saturn return though I will have established roots elsewhere, and that's a promise to myself I'm determined to keep lol


You're gonna manage everything you want FireMoon, I have Saturn conjunct Sun, conjunct NN too (but my Sun is in the first degree of Aqua), I know that one day I will prove my parents wrong and live happily ever after without them

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posted April 08, 2013 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for its_aqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Trust me


I know EXACTLY how you feel.


I try not to admit it out of love for my family but there are times I want to be further and further away from family drama. And them in general. I'll just say my decisions don't coincide with what they (family) expect of me. It never has and I don't believe it ever will. I will not make myself out to be a victim because I have definitely not been the best daughter/sister/relative but my role is definitely playing out to where I will have to work on independence. My family supports me, but most certainly not emotionally. If anything, most are abusive emotionally. And they treat my sibling better, who is the exact opposite of me. Dutiful, not emotional except for irritated or angry, happy to sit in the house all week and head of household. And we used to be close. Now she resents me.

It's like, I cannot please my family and please my self at the same time. I have to do one or the other, at the cost of whichever I don't choose to concede to. And believe me, when you said you like to leave the house, that really hit home! All this is on my mind constantly now, since I have a bunch of planets transiting my 4th house (mostly the Aries ones)

I also have Cap NN (1st house) Cancer SN (7th house)

I sound like a whiny teenager, I know but it's interesting to know that other Cap NN's are going through similar situations.


You dont sound whiny at all!!
I feel the exact same, I feel like my mother will never ever aprove of me.

(What a great thread cappy )

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