posted April 06, 2013 10:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbee:
Interesting, because I also am "Air" and I had four books published. 3 planets in Gemini, Sun in Aquarius and Neptune in Libra. (Mercury is in Capricorn but in mutual reception with Saturn in Gemini, so that makes 6 ).

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*swoons*

As an aspiring novelist, I know that air gives you communicative ability, fire gives you inspiration, water is imaginative, etc. But, what actually gets you published? Earth? Mercury-Saturn? Mercury-MC? Mercury-9H ruler? What about Sagittarius? Does one need an abundance of air to realize a literary career? What if your 3/9H is empty? Could I look to the rulers, then?

posted April 06, 2013 10:53 PM            

Interesting enough I just looked up Charles de Lint, whom I was sure was water heavy (and a published author), but he's actually fairly balanced with a lot of fire with Sag sun & Merc, Scorp Venus, Libra Mars & Saturn & Neptune, Aries Jupiter, Cancer Uranus, Leo Pluto. I then looked up the chart of a published author I personally know (and btw the summary fits him so incredibly well...and I recall I did a chart for him once that impressed him many years ago but I lost that info and can't even recall the ascendant), and I was surprised to see a lot of fire again (more balanced with water this time with significant air): Cancer sun & Venus & Uranus, Gemini merc, Aries moon, Leo Mars & Jupiter & Pluto, Scorpio Saturn, Libra Neptune.

This makes me wonder if maybe fire (at least when fanned by air which stimulates creative & drive but muted by water to know how to best relate to people intuitively and keep the fire from being "out of control" that destroys instead of warms) then gives one enough passion to stick with it?

Both of those authors were mostly fiction, however, not authors of astrology. Why don't you look up the charts of other published authors?

In the meantime I thought I'd point this out to you, a path some authors have used to great success (and some got picked up by publishing companies after succeeding on their own this way):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-publishing
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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-18438_7-10119891-82/self-publishing-a-book-25- things-you-need-to-know/
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posted April 06, 2013 11:26 PM            

PJ, this may sound dumb, but I'm teetering on self-publishing because I'm not sure if self-publishers would be eligible for literary awards. Or, if I'm fortunate enough, once a publisher buys my story, would I then be able to qualify?

I was going by this article by Rose Murray, and she listed several famous writers and their aspects. I feel like I could be published, but I'm not sure if I'd see financial success from it. She said that aspects between the 2H/3H to the 9H/10H could mean income from writing, but all of those houses are empty for me except Pluto--which is cusping the 11th.

As for the two writers you listed, they seemed to have largely balanced charts; I'm mostly water and fire. And the only Gemini in my chart is my NN/Chiron conjunction in the 6th, which gives me some hope. I could go by house rulers, but it makes me feel like I'm grasping at straws.

posted April 07, 2013 01:04 AM            

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Originally posted by SagittariusRising:
PJ, this may sound dumb, but I'm teetering on self-publishing because I'm not sure if self-publishers would be eligible for literary awards. Or, if I'm fortunate enough, once a publisher buys my story, would I then be able to qualify?

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Yes, they can win literary awards ("indie," scifi, libertarian, seems to be especially favorable to independents), though I'm not sure if that disqualifies them from any. I expect that if you get later published then you'd qualify for any that you would've if you'd signed up with them in the first place. Of course there are those literary awards that are actually talent scouting by publishing companies, but I presume you don't mean them (but if you do, the point is to make money and if self-publishing means they can't profit as well from it then you'll be overlooked).

Generally speaking I'm not impressed with awards that focus almost exclusively on big names, they tend to be way too based on political (can be internal office politicking & probably bribes, not just ideological) expediency than actual merit (but not everyone has a problem with that, especially if they're more about the profit motive). I suspect any that required a big name publisher are probably run by the big names as well (especially as all the big names become increasingly centralized and trying to guard their status from the rising stars that would replace them were the market devoid of cheating).

posted April 07, 2013 05:33 AM            

Found this great thread on the asteroid muses. Might be of help http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum28/HTML/001161.html

To locate these asteroids, please refer to their relevent numbers mentioned at the beginning of this post and head over to astro.com. As these are just cool, awesome and nifty sneak peeks into natural creative talents, knock yourself out with orbs and aspects!

In modern day terms, these are possibilities for the Muses. Add your own in private, or even to the comment box and I will include it in this database, but please, do keep to the mythology!

CALLIOPE – journalism, technical writing, documentary, research, astrology, artist, painter

CLIO – historian, teacher, historical novelist (either technical or creative writer) – this could also be a spot in the natal where your ‘claim to fame’ lies.

ERATO – definitely those inclined to write romantic/adult content novels and the like.

EUTERPE – the musician on all levels, from classical to punk, radio , DJ, composer

MELPOMENE – acting, singing, psychotherapist, social worker, horror/thriller author

POLYHYMNIA – acting, therapist, poet,gardening, natural therapies, alternative practices, mystic

TERPSICHORE – dancer, massage therapist, physiotherapist, fitness trainer

THALIA – TV personality, comedian, comedy writer,

URANIA – astrologer, psychic, mystic, priest, artist, painter, photographer "

posted April 07, 2013 09:11 AM            

I say in general because there have been a few writers who hit pay dirt their first time out, but that does not happen a lot. Most published writers have withstood rejection after rejection, sometimes for years, but they never gave up.

So astrologically, I'd say Taurus, Leo or Capricorn, may play a role, or any aspect that gives a never say die, kind of drive.

A strong Jupiter probably wouldn't hurt either, because there is a bit of luck involved. There maybe nothing inherently wrong with your work but if an agent just picked up an author with a similar kind of novel when yours comes in they may pass on it. Same with publishers.

Or your novel may be something that the market isn't interested in anymore. Trends always die out and are replaced with something new, agents and publishers see this before the general public is made aware of it. And so many other reasons that have nothing to do with the quality of the work itself.

A healthy dose of Jupiter could help you be the author that just got picked up, or the one who has written the kind of novel the market is looking for.

But yeah, all the other ducks being in a row, tenacity, patience and a thick skin are the keys to getting published.

I wish you well with your endeavors.

posted April 07, 2013 10:06 PM            

Barbee, I saw your earlier post and I think a conference would be a brilliant idea. Thanks for allowing us to have a quick glimpse of your chart. I wish you continued success!

Twirl, I forgot all about the muse asteroids, thank you! I have them all in my Southern Hemisphere ("public" houses ), except Thalia in 5H Taurus. I'm getting a lot of Gem/Sag/9H/10H action with them, too, which is def. affirming.

pisces moon, thank you too. Jupiter is my chart ruler, and is heavily aspected, though afflicted. Jupiter is in detriment in Capricorn, but I feel that will help me. I'm definitely dreaming big, but still within reason. And we know that Capricorn has to earn something, so boom.

The "never say die" aspect for me would probably be Scorp Mars-Saturn conj. in 11H. It also helps that Saturn is well-aspected in my chart, i.e. sextile Jupiter. My Libra MC is also afflicted, squaring most of my personal planets, but it's quintile my Sag ASC. I'm becoming more and more determined to see this through, as I want to do what I want to do in terms of my career. As far as trends, I worried about that at first, but right now IDGAF. Maybe I'll care again after I'm finished editing, LOL. Uranus is my 3H ruler...I feel that I've managed to come up with a unique enough idea for a story. I hope.

posted April 07, 2013 10:36 PM            

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Originally posted by SagittariusRising:
I'm teetering on self-publishing because I'm not sure if self-publishers would be eligible for literary awards. Or, if I'm fortunate enough, once a publisher buys my story, would I then be able to qualify?

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Hey! I think I saw your post also in the Readings section. I think self-publishing would be a great idea! I am actually getting my MA in publishing at the moment and we talk about this a lot. I know friends of friends who have published right on Amazon. It is quite possible to skip the big 7 publishers and move along to being published. Also, I would check smaller publishers who specialize in what you are trying to publish as well.

Astrologically, I want to say that the ruler of the 7th house is important because writing is just as important socially. You need to have other people's support. So the ruler of the seventh house aspecting the MC.

I am a poet and aiming to published also, so I know what you are trying to do!

If you have any questions, we can chat through e-mail and I'll see if I can answer them!

posted April 09, 2013 01:32 AM            

I think I really will look into self-publishing

posted April 09, 2013 03:00 AM            

I've an unaspected jupe in the 9th. Sq asc.

9h in libra(strangely, my topic was sustainable technological development). Sag Venus in the 10th conjunct mercury (5h/8h ruler) and sun(7h ruler) and nnode and sextile asc.

My 3h is in aries with mars in the 11th conj sun. That's why technology.