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Topic: Who is more truly Taurean?
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twinswans Knowflake Posts: 231 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 09, 2013 11:30 AM
A man with SUN in Taurus OR A man with MOON in Taurus?IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 2083 From: Uranus Registered: May 2011
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posted April 09, 2013 12:04 PM
Perhaps Sun and Mars, as those are the masculine bodies (Yang)IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 231 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 09, 2013 12:58 PM
I know.....But I am asking because moon is your emotional nature whether you are male or female...and moon is exalted in Taurus...IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 788 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 01:08 PM
Does the moon really make you more Taurean in Taurus, or just more lunar?IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 1833 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 06:57 PM
depends how the sun and moon is aspected. A dominant moon can overhelm the solar placement.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 788 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 08:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: depends how the sun and moon is aspected. A dominant moon can overhelm the solar placement.
But it doesn't have the same meaning as sun in Taurus. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 1833 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 08:58 PM
What is the meaning of sun in taurus and moon in taurus? The moon thou tends to give more positive qualities thou. The moon influences the personality more than the sun.
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somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 937 From: walking with my head in the clouds! Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 09:05 PM
The Sun is like giving you a portrait canvas and frame, everything else being like little buttons you can put on the canvas...So says my Cancer friend (kinda). IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth Knowflake Posts: 2159 From: Gaea's Omphalos Registered: Aug 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 09:12 PM
Moon in exalt just makes the moon's better qualities easier to benefit from, it is a beneficial placement for the moon, because the energies of Taurus help to funnel and direct without hindering the best the moon has to offer a natal. It doesn't necessarily make one more Taurean. It may make them more lunar, as Kero pointed out, depending on other lunar aspects/relations in the chart. A more Taurean person would be one with an exalt Venus (well aspected, even domicile), perhaps their 2nd house, or one with many 2nd house/Taurean placements besides the Venus... A person who has Moon-Sun and even Sun-Venus or Venus-ASC in conjunction within the sign (Taurus) can be more Taurean. But, Moon alone doesn't make one more Taurean, I would suspect. I'm rather Lunarian, and Cancerian, but that has more to do with the entire chart. My Taurus Moon is in the 9th, with Venus in the 4th (Moon's natural house/Cancer house). Sagittarius and Jupiter are naturally housed in the 9th. Most of my planets/placements are in the 4th, and Moon happens to aspect over half of them. It also is exact trine my Capricorn Sun in the 5th though, and opposite my Sun's ruler - Saturn in the 3rd by a wide orb. Cancer rules my 11th. I don't know what you mean by a man with~ in your OP... lol But, the stronger Taurean would be one with many potential Taurean aspects/placements in natural and natal order, the stronger will have positive aspects to those. This is not always a Solar or Lunar Taurus, male or not... (just to make an example elsewhere, Jupiter is in exalt in Cancer, that does not make the person more Crustacean or Centaurian! lol But, it can surely make them more Jupiterean depending on their Sagittarius, its house in their chart, and any placements in Sagittarius's natural house, the 9th, if they are well placed/aspected, angular or otherwise. If these others aspects are involved there is a chance they are also Sagittarius or Cancer strong (maybe even dominant), but it won't make them more Cancer than many other Cancer strong individuals. But, they may be able to show much more of the blessings that Jupiter can bring to them, for having this placement. Making them, naturally, more jovial. (again, depending on favourable/unfavourable aspects to that Jupiter). ^^; either way, I'm Merc-Jup-Lunar = Sag/Cancer dominant... even with my lovely glompable Taurus Moon, and earth triad (Cap Sun/Virgo Rising) - Taurus is not so highly ranked for dominance. My 2nd house is empty, my Venus while still strong enough, is not nearly as strong as the Moon and Jupiter or Mercury in my chart. Moon in Taurus = strong Moon Sun in Taurus = strong Taurus unless the other factors play in! ^^; ehhh?! IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 1833 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 09:19 PM
^ The only thing wrong with your argument is that the moon isn't just a planet but its a luminary. If the moon did not exist nor would we.I don't know why in western astrology the moon isn't given more importance. Every person born in the same month is not a clone of one another. A taurus with moon in gemini with be more comunicative, witty, youthful and mental rather than sensual. A gemini with taurus moon, will be more sensual, stubborn, and "slowed down" rather than the typical fast paced gemini.
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 788 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 09:26 PM
The lunar Taurean has an appreciation for what Taurus represents while the solar Taurean might have an easier time accessing it. The solar Taurean might be born into a family that has land or a farm, likes to live well, plenty of good food and basic material needs met, money in the bank, practical, aesthetically pleasing items and a rather cozy home (though not as cozy as solar Cancer's) while the lunar Taurean might see others with this and want it for himself but not necessarily has access like the solar Taurean. He will have to find a way to meet his emotional needs which will typify the sign Taurus, comfortable lifestyle and material security and a warm, Venusian/Lunar environment revolving around creature comforts, quilts and the like. I picture the typical country home complete with knitting needles and spinning wheel although this doesn't typify me (I have this placement of the moon) because Neptune has interfered and I crave living on boats and such. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 484 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 09, 2013 09:50 PM
@starlightso..im curious. im a scorpio sun my moon is in taurus. my moon is conjunct my asc - lunarian my moon opposes my pluto - plutonian so, is my taurus moon more plutonian or lunarian? or, am i more in between? ps. my moon also opposes my venus/mercury and squares my aqua mars. yep, i know im full of oppositions and squares.. still, very curious about my moon, if it is more lunarian or a hades moon. thanks IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 788 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 09, 2013 10:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: @starlightso..im curious. im a scorpio sun my moon is in taurus. my moon is conjunct my asc - lunarian my moon opposes my pluto - plutonian so, is my taurus moon more plutonian or lunarian? or, am i more in between? ps. my moon also opposes my venus/mercury and squares my aqua mars. yep, i know im full of oppositions and squares.. still, very curious about my moon, if it is more lunarian or a hades moon. thanks
I can compare that to my Taurean Lunar opposition between Moon and Neptune even though yours is stronger, on the Ascendant/Descendant axis. I consider Neptune to win out over the moon in mine so maybe Pluto wins over the moon in yours, too, since it's an opposition? Then again, you moon is more personalized than mine. Mine is in house 8, yours is in 1, so maybe, in your chart the moon would win out over Pluto? In my chart, Neptune is in house 2 so it's like it's closer to me than the moon in house 8. IP: Logged |
Venusian Moon Knowflake Posts: 301 From: Nyc Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 09, 2013 10:20 PM
I think the moon in taurus can make a big difference. I once read that a gemini with taurus moon would be more stable.Also depends on aspects. For example i am a gemini and my moon, venus, and chiron are in taurus. My aspects are: Moon conjunct venus Moon conjunct chiron Venus conjunct chiron
I feel more taurean than gemini thats for sure. I also look venusian. ------------------ Gemini sun 12th Cancer asc 1st Taurus moon 11th Taurus venus 11th Libra mars 3rd Gemini mercury 11th IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 231 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 10, 2013 06:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: ^ The only thing wrong with your argument is that the moon isn't just a planet but its a luminary. If the moon did not exist nor would we.I don't know why in western astrology the moon isn't given more importance. Every person born in the same month is not a clone of one another. A taurus with moon in gemini with be more comunicative, witty, youthful and mental rather than sensual. A gemini with taurus moon, will be more sensual, stubborn, and "slowed down" rather than the typical fast paced gemini.
I second this! IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 231 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 10, 2013 06:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: The lunar Taurean has an appreciation for what Taurus represents while the solar Taurean might have an easier time accessing it. The solar Taurean might be born into a family that has land or a farm, likes to live well, plenty of good food and basic material needs met, money in the bank, practical, aesthetically pleasing items and a rather cozy home (though not as cozy as solar Cancer's) while the lunar Taurean might see others with this and want it for himself but not necessarily has access like the solar Taurean. He will have to find a way to meet his emotional needs which will typify the sign Taurus, comfortable lifestyle and material security and a warm, Venusian/Lunar environment revolving around creature comforts, quilts and the like. I picture the typical country home complete with knitting needles and spinning wheel although this doesn't typify me (I have this placement of the moon) because Neptune has interfered and I crave living on boats and such.
nice differentiation.. thanks! IP: Logged |
twinswans Knowflake Posts: 231 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 10, 2013 06:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Venusian Moon: I think the moon in taurus can make a big difference. I once read that a gemini with taurus moon would be more stable.Also depends on aspects. For example i am a gemini and my moon, venus, and chiron are in taurus. My aspects are: Moon conjunct venus Moon conjunct chiron Venus conjunct chiron
I feel more taurean than gemini thats for sure. I also look venusian.
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twinswans Knowflake Posts: 231 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted April 10, 2013 06:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by SaturnineMoth: Moon in exalt just makes the moon's better qualities easier to benefit from, it is a beneficial placement for the moon, because the energies of Taurus help to funnel and direct without hindering the best the moon has to offer a natal. It doesn't necessarily make one more Taurean. It may make them more lunar, as Kero pointed out, depending on other lunar aspects/relations in the chart. A more Taurean person would be one with an exalt Venus (well aspected, even domicile), perhaps their 2nd house, or one with many 2nd house/Taurean placements besides the Venus... A person who has Moon-Sun and even Sun-Venus or Venus-ASC in conjunction within the sign (Taurus) can be more Taurean. But, Moon alone doesn't make one more Taurean, I would suspect. I'm rather Lunarian, and Cancerian, but that has more to do with the entire chart. My Taurus Moon is in the 9th, with Venus in the 4th (Moon's natural house/Cancer house). Sagittarius and Jupiter are naturally housed in the 9th. Most of my planets/placements are in the 4th, and Moon happens to aspect over half of them. It also is exact trine my Capricorn Sun in the 5th though, and opposite my Sun's ruler - Saturn in the 3rd by a wide orb. Cancer rules my 11th. I don't know what you mean by a man with~ in your OP... lol But, the stronger Taurean would be one with many potential Taurean aspects/placements in natural and natal order, the stronger will have positive aspects to those. This is not always a Solar or Lunar Taurus, male or not... (just to make an example elsewhere, Jupiter is in exalt in Cancer, that does not make the person more Crustacean or Centaurian! lol But, it can surely make them more Jupiterean depending on their Sagittarius, its house in their chart, and any placements in Sagittarius's natural house, the 9th, if they are well placed/aspected, angular or otherwise. If these others aspects are involved there is a chance they are also Sagittarius or Cancer strong (maybe even dominant), but it won't make them more Cancer than many other Cancer strong individuals. But, they may be able to show much more of the blessings that Jupiter can bring to them, for having this placement. Making them, naturally, more jovial. (again, depending on favourable/unfavourable aspects to that Jupiter). ^^; either way, I'm Merc-Jup-Lunar = Sag/Cancer dominant... even with my lovely glompable Taurus Moon, and earth triad (Cap Sun/Virgo Rising) - Taurus is not so highly ranked for dominance. My 2nd house is empty, my Venus while still strong enough, is not nearly as strong as the Moon and Jupiter or Mercury in my chart. Moon in Taurus = strong Moon Sun in Taurus = strong Taurus unless the other factors play in! ^^; ehhh?!
Okay....the guy i'm talking about has Taurus moon quincunx its ruler venus in libra.....nothing in 2nd house, but his 2nd ruler Saturn is trine his moon and sextile mars...Saturn is also conjunct Jupiter (asc ruler). He feels pretty Taurean to me.....(although I'm not sure if everyone feels that way).
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 484 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 10, 2013 08:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: I can compare that to my Taurean Lunar opposition between Moon and Neptune even though yours is stronger, on the Ascendant/Descendant axis. I consider Neptune to win out over the moon in mine so maybe Pluto wins over the moon in yours, too, since it's an opposition? Then again, you moon is more personalized than mine. Mine is in house 8, yours is in 1, so maybe, in your chart the moon would win out over Pluto? In my chart, Neptune is in house 2 so it's like it's closer to me than the moon in house 8.
interesting. thanks.
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acidbanks Newflake Posts: 7 From: Registered: Apr 2013
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posted April 14, 2013 04:07 AM
taurus sun= pierce brosnan taurus moon= homer simpsonIP: Logged | |