posted April 09, 2013 12:06 PM            

Moon is said to have polar opposite of Saturn, but what is Sun's polar opposite?

And what is the feminine and masculine energies?

posted April 09, 2013 12:21 PM            

Speaking of planets Sun is seen as the complement to Moon - it is not the same as polar opposite though.
You can see it in the natural wheel. Cancer/ 4th house rests beside Leo/ 5th house.
Actually this is even true for the Venus-Mars-pairing. Aries/1st house is beside Taurus/ 2nd house.

Though of course the polar opposite here are 1st house - 7th house, or if you use traditional rulers, 2nd house - 8th house.

Using the houseapproach in terms of Moon and Sun; the opposite of Moon would be Saturn - ys (Cancer-Capricorn; 4th - 10th house) and the oposite of Sun would be Uranus - (Leo-Aquarius; 5th - 11th house).

also I once stumbled across an article on inner wheel blog
http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/09/01/the-cardinal-path-to-sexual-maturity-marssaturn/

posted April 09, 2013 12:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It depends if you come from a planetary or signfocused approach.

Speaking of planets Sun is seen as the complement to Moon - it is not the same as polar opposite though.
You can see it in the natural wheel. Cancer/ 4th house rests beside Leo/ 5th house.
Actually this is even true for the Venus-Mars-pairing. Aries/1st house is beside Taurus/ 2nd house.

Though of course the polar opposite here are 1st house - 7th house, or if you use traditional rulers, 2nd house - 8th house.

Using the houseapproach in terms of Moon and Sun; the opposite of Moon would be Saturn - ys (Cancer-Capricorn; 4th - 10th house) and the oposite of Sun would be Uranus - (Leo-Aquarius; 5th - 11th house).

also I once stumbled across an article on inner wheel blog
http://theinnerwheel.com/2011/09/01/the-cardinal-path-to-sexual-maturity-marssaturn/

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Thanks Ceridwen.

I also was looking at planetary influenced people and it mentioned Solarians were often adrogyonous and child-like.

I found that true as I met a Solarian-Jovian woman she was 25 but looked 12 and she was extremely adryogonus (she had a very strong Leo/Sun in her chart)

Why is that?

posted April 09, 2013 12:40 PM            

That was what came into my mind, but maybe it is nunsense. lol

However, interestingly they are ruling only one sign, whereas the other planets (traditionally) rule two.
Maybe it has something to do with that.
Maybe in the solar cases the opposite ruler, Uranus, influences it, too. And Uranians are usually said to be androgynous (and Mercurians/ Geminis as well sometimes).

But I do not know if that is true.

posted April 09, 2013 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Because they are the pure creation and reflection of light.

That was what came into my mind, but maybe it is nunsense. lol

However, interestingly they are ruling only one sign, whereas the other planets (traditionally) rule two.
Maybe it has something to do with that.
Maybe in the solar cases the opposite ruler, Uranus, influences it, too. And Uranians are usually said to be androgynous (and Mercurians/ Geminis as well sometimes).

But I do not know if that is true.

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That makes a lot of sense

Also, Mercury is an asexual planet is it? Or do all planets have a yin and yang influence?

Mercury is yang, negative from this website:
http://www.promart.com/9gram.html

posted April 09, 2013 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Because they are the pure creation and reflection of light.

That was what came into my mind, but maybe it is nunsense. lol

However, interestingly they are ruling only one sign, whereas the other planets (traditionally) rule two.
Maybe it has something to do with that.
Maybe in the solar cases the opposite ruler, Uranus, influences it, too. And Uranians are usually said to be androgynous (and Mercurians/ Geminis as well sometimes).

But I do not know if that is true.

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posted April 09, 2013 07:07 PM            

Moon and Mercury are also enemies tradtionally.
Moon is emotion and mercury is logic.

Luckily for me I have sun conjunct venus and moon conjunct mercury...

posted April 09, 2013 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Heres another perspective.
Traditionally Sun and Venus are mortal enemies.
These energies clash, sun is about your self, while venus is us oriented.
This is why combust venus is considered malefic

Moon and Mercury are also enemies tradtionally.
Moon is emotion and mercury is logic.

Luckily for me I have sun conjunct venus and moon conjunct mercury...

I have to admit its not easy.
Always fighting between logic and emotions. Love of myself and others.

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Okay now I'm confused. Aries is the sign associated with the "self" and the first house. Aries is ruled by Mars.

Sure, sure, I get the association between Aries and the sun but truthfully the sun is really Leo's domain, and according to Isabel Hickey ("Astrology : A Cosmic Science"), Leo (and the sun) rule the heart in the physical body and in a non-literal sense, and so it explains the generosity attributed to sign Leo. Michael Jackson, who held the record for donating the most money in philantrophy, had most of his planets in Leo.

Venus (and Libra) aren't self-oriented either. Mercury is big on communication - which obviously, involves other people so it's not really a self-oriented planet either, neither are its signs Gemini and Virgo.

The moon is about your mother, and your emotions and how you nurture both yourself and others, and as such, isn't self-oriented either.

posted April 09, 2013 09:04 PM            

Were talking about planets not houses and signs. Mars by its self is not as egotistical as the sun.

Mars and venus are neutral with each other. Conjunction and aspects between mars and venus are never difficult.

posted April 10, 2013 11:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Because they are the pure creation and reflection of light.

That was what came into my mind, but maybe it is nunsense. lol

However, interestingly they are ruling only one sign, whereas the other planets (traditionally) rule two.
Maybe it has something to do with that.
Maybe in the solar cases the opposite ruler, Uranus, influences it, too. And Uranians are usually said to be androgynous (and Mercurians/ Geminis as well sometimes).

But I do not know if that is true.

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That makes a lot of sense

Also, Mercury is an asexual planet is it? Or do all planets have a yin and yang influence?

Mercury is yang, negative from this website:
http://www.promart.com/9gram.html

Is that why it rules Virgo AND Gemini?

Depends whom you are asking.

posted April 10, 2013 12:05 PM            

"There have been entire books (well, sections of books) written about the way Saturn behaves in relationships. Not much has been discussed about why Saturn is a relationship planet at all. We all assume that you need Saturn contacts in a long term relationship, but why? Because Saturn rules time? Because it rules maturity, responsibility, duty? Perhaps. Actually, Saturn plays a more primary role in relationship, as evidenced by its rulership of Capricorn and the natural 10th house and its opposition to Cancer, the IC and the feminine Moon. It is part of an angular pair. Saturn is as much a relationship planet as Mars.

There is a bit of confusion here as the Sun, in its Leonine way, has stolen a bit of the limelight from poor old Saturn. We think of Moon/Sun as the natural partnership, leaving lonely Saturn to play the role of heavy, or the poor shlub that doesn’t get the girl. But the Sun/Moon pairing is a different archetype entirely. The natural partner to the Sun is actually the Earth, which lies at its opposite point in the chart. This archetype harkens back to primordial days, when the Sky God and the Earth Mother were the primal archetype, the yin and yang of life. But in the early cultures the goddess gave birth of her own accord. The idea of father as seed-planter is a very different thing, and came along much later.

There is no denying that Sun/Moon contacts are crucial in synastry. Sun/Moon is an inner marriage, no matter which partner carries which planet. This pairing has been called the marriage of spirit and soul, the Moon person grounding the aspirations of the Sun person in a concrete way, yet (usually) effortlessly. The Saturn/Moon pairing is quite a different matter. Saturn/Moon is about making and building something of our lives. And this is what the IC/MC axis is all about.

Sky/Spirit/Inspiration: that’s the role of the Sun god, and the place of the Sun in astrological terms. It brings heat and fire, it expresses and urges. But what the Sun doesn’t do very well is deal with the real world, and that’s where Saturn comes in. Masculinity as a concept is the Sun, masculinity as a practice, is both Mars and Saturn."

posted April 10, 2013 12:09 PM            

Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house: My Dad is an Aquarius with Moon in Taurus

Saturn in Cancer in 8th house: My Mom is a Scorpio with ASC in Cancer

posted April 10, 2013 02:05 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
What is the polar opposite of the Moon and the Sun??

Moon is said to have polar opposite of Saturn, but what is Sun's polar opposite?

And what is the feminine and masculine energies?

If Sun is so masculine why do people born uner him are adrogyonous?

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