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goatcat
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posted April 13, 2013 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't get it.

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 13, 2013 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sorta get it but cannot explain it.

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posted April 13, 2013 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just like the natal.
Only in reference to just a moment in time.

Oh and working well as triggers of natal potential.

oh and btw you donīt stop "being" your natal, the progressions will just add some other nuances.

For example:
my natal Venus is in Capricorn, my progressed Venus is in Aquarius.

I am maybe a bit more relaxed version of my Cappy-Venus than I was some years before, but of course this is still a Cappy Venus.


my natal Moon in Aquarius - my proressed Moon has JUST entered Cancer.
It had my Aqua Moon going: "whoa, wait a moment, what`s that all at once? I am actually .... feeling? Caring? Needing affection? whoa, not so quick, I need to get home and analyze this new thing living in me."

Nah, it is not really that bad (Aqua Moon actually feel very deeply; they just can`t deal with it).

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posted April 13, 2013 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All the aspects between the progressed planets and the natal ones are minor in my combined chart. In fact, they are either semi sextiles or semi squares. How boring. As far as I can tell, anyway...

The chart that's totally progressed is much sadder

Most of my good has been replaced by bad.

My sun progressed into Libra, moon Sagittarius and ascendant Scorpio.

All planets except four have crowded into house eleven save the sun into house twelve. I am feeling that altruistic, social obligation more and more.

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posted April 13, 2013 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting.

My Pisces Venus has progressed to Aries.

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posted April 13, 2013 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
All planets except four have crowded into house eleven save the sun into house twelve. I am feeling that altruistic, social obligation more and more.

Whoaaa

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posted April 13, 2013 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Just like the natal.
Only in reference to just a moment in time.

Oh and working well as triggers of natal potential.

oh and btw you donīt stop "being" your natal, the progressions will just add some other nuances.

For example:
my natal Venus is in Capricorn, my progressed Venus is in Aquarius.

I am maybe a bit more relaxed version of my Cappy-Venus than I was some years before, but of course this is still a Cappy Venus.


my natal Moon in Aquarius - my proressed Moon has JUST entered Cancer.
It had my Aqua Moon going: "whoa, wait a moment, what`s that all at once? I am actually .... feeling? Caring? Needing affection? whoa, not so quick, I need to get home and analyze this new thing living in me."

Nah, it is not really that bad (Aqua Moon actually feel very deeply; they just can`t deal with it).



These examples make understanding progressions much easier. Thank you.

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posted April 13, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else?

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posted April 13, 2013 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for calliope23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is unrelated to your question goatcat, but I'm curious about something: when you generate your progressed chart on astro.com, do you (or anyone) get a weird date under the "Progressions for April 2013" header? Mine says January 12, 1987....which isn't my birthday or near my birthday.

I know progressed charts represent the movement of the planets by "year" around the wheel, so does that odd Jan. 12 date mean my current progressed chart is the chart of someone who would have been born January 12, 1987 in the same place I was born?

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posted April 16, 2013 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by calliope23:
This is unrelated to your question goatcat, but I'm curious about something: when you generate your progressed chart on astro.com, do you (or anyone) get a weird date under the "Progressions for April 2013" header? Mine says January 12, 1987....which isn't my birthday or near my birthday.

I know progressed charts represent the movement of the planets by "year" around the wheel, so does that odd Jan. 12 date mean my current progressed chart is the chart of someone who would have been born January 12, 1987 in the same place I was born?


I don't think so lemme check

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posted April 17, 2013 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely hope my progressed chart changes. I don't like it. All my sextiles and trines are replaced by squares. Does this mean I've failed at life? Not encouraging and definitely not a progression for me. I...haven't...exactly...progressed according to this chart.

It's like I've regressed instead.

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posted April 17, 2013 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's hard to explain so I'll try to illustrate through example...

I am 18 years old! Baby, I know...
My natal Sun is at 16 Scorpio. My progressed Sun is at 4 Sagittarius, where it was 18 days after I was born.
My natal Mars is at 18 Leo. My progressed Mars is at 25 Leo, where it was 18 days after I was born.

It's the same with my other natal placements; a progressed chart is where the planets were after a certain amount of time, in reference to current age.

Ya see? It's like an outer layer, kinda. I'm still a mean ol' Scorpio, I just happen to love racing around town, making jest and laughing, and taking things for the lessons instead of for what they are - like a Sagittarius would.

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posted April 17, 2013 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see, somethingexcellent, thank you! I read about it a while back but forgot the details with my fuzzy memory lol. So this means everything in the chart will move ahead one degree on my birthday? The weird thing is, some of the planets have not moved hardly at all since my birth and seem to have gone backward, even the ones that aren't retrograde. My Libra planets haven't budged much at all...

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posted April 17, 2013 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I pay attention mostly to the progressed moon and planets that are changing signs and houses.

When my moon progressed into Taurus, natal 4h, I started spending most of my time at home, doing nothing. When I moved away from my parents, I felt homesick.

When my Sun progressed into capricorn, at 0 deg, I had my first romantic relationship. Sun rules my 7h.

My pSun, mars, ura and nept are in capricorn. 1 and a half year and venus/merc will join them. Moon's not far away.

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posted April 17, 2013 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]StarlightSmileSupreme: So this means everything in the chart will move ahead one degree on my birthday? The weird thing is, some of the planets have not moved hardly at all.../QUOTE]

That's how solar arcs work.

Progressed charts are like...if you're turning thirty, for example, your progressed chart will be what the planets were like thirty days after your birthday. If a planet is retrograde, it could very well progress backwards, like my Venus, and outer planets will hardly move at all considering they don't move very fast.

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posted April 17, 2013 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Progressed charts depends on the time they are cast and show the extra influences of another signs on your natal chart. The core of your sun/moon/asc stays the same, your just under a slightly different influence. One site describes the influence of your progressed chart as moving to another state or country. Your progressed moon changes about every two years. Progressed chart also pinpoint certain events occurring in your life for example some people get married or have children when their progressed sun is conjunct venus or vice versa.

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posted April 17, 2013 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
All the aspects between the progressed planets and the natal ones are minor in my combined chart. In fact, they are either semi sextiles or semi squares. How boring. As far as I can tell, anyway...

The chart that's totally progressed is much sadder

Most of my good has been replaced by bad.

My sun progressed into Libra, moon Sagittarius and ascendant Scorpio.

All planets except four have crowded into house eleven save the sun into house twelve. I am feeling that altruistic, social obligation more and more.



You will endure.... If our charts are taking just one step forward every year, and taking only fractions of movements every month, then we are internally being adjusted to these changes, right?

I know what you mean by 'bad' looking... all those red marks? I'd been living like that with an extreme smear of T-square... with rx-Chiron moving ever so slowly over my ascendant and now into the 12th House. And keeping its opposition to my 6th house sun the entire time!!

As planets changed signs, I had improvements I think--- my sun got out of water into more fire, which was very clarifying for me and my chart. Got out and moving away from PrUranus-Sun cj in Cancer also with venus-mars there in sixth too.

PrJupiter was "synchronistically" jumping into my P-6th over the past couple weeks, and somewhere it "met" transiting Jupiter through the same crossing over the DESCENDANT.

I have a Jupiter-ruled chart.

What happened is that my left hip got a dislocation-- so weird... I don't even remember "how" that happened!!

(Still painfulness when walk or sleeping, but now improving !!)

Doctor was in disbelief how "locked" my hip was in the displacement. The chiropractic crunch-cure felt strong... but at least now I hope I am on the curing side... arrrgh! and yikes!

This happened as tr GemJupiter stationed and went direct. It crossed my 6th house sun in gemini in my natal chart, and now has cleared into natal 7th house.


What gave me courage about "red-charts" was looking at some of the old astrologers's charts... When I saw their "red" natal charts, and how they stepped forward to make this world a better place, (even making history), then I thought there is hope for me yet!


I've been studying without a teacher... so I feel VERY LUCKY and glad that I found some very sound grounding practical astrology advice on youtubes, and from finding old astrology books at used book stores.

I find much instruction and solace in flowing through the times, listening to daily, weekly, monthly reports, and their takes on what's going on with the sky and planets through transits.

It's like reading medical books-- you start getting scared you have every disease in the book... With "red" mark aspects in astrology, you could begin to feel like everything is doom....

Takes steadying of the nerves and some level-headed friends here at LL to help us navigate all the river bends in learning about features of our charts. It's not 'all' bad?.... (sometimes yikes!!!!) but we can DO this... together!


Just a note: There are parts of astrology I feel I may have a grasp on, and others I have yet to learn. I haven't focused on synastry a lot yet and that's why you haven't 'seen' me participating a lot on these threads. (I've learned most about certain asteroids... and their transits now.)

I want to participate more as things in my life settle for me. There are times people will pose a question (like what causes shyness). THEN, I'll run across an answer in reading some of my books... but then it's WAY to late to answer. See?

(shyness... Saturn in Scorpio in 11th House, was one answer I found too late.)

I don't want to give people the idea that I know MORE than I do.... but I am finding that I know more than I thought I did!?? still growing here....

Oh!! For LOVE of astrology and Learning! What a journey!!!!

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