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Topic: Aspects of good fighter?
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ayujegeg Knowflake Posts: 264 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted April 15, 2013 08:51 PM
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Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 15, 2013 09:10 PM
Mars-Pluto, probably.Bruce Lee's chart is probably the obvious starting place. Just checked - he did have an exact mars-pluto square along with Mars opposing Saturn and Jupiter. Mars squared his Chiron, too. IP: Logged |
Sugarplum Knowflake Posts: 292 From: :-) Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 15, 2013 09:16 PM
i would say mars-saturn, my bf has mars trine saturn, and he's an amazing martial artist. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 8078 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted April 16, 2013 01:11 AM
It’s mostly about Mars I think. *Angular Mars(1/4/7/10) *Sun-Mars, Sun-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Mars-Saturn *Mars in 5th *Aries,Scorpio,Leo,Taurus,Cancer marsIP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 01:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: It’s mostly about Mars I think. *Angular Mars(1/4/7/10) *Sun-Mars, Sun-Pluto, Mars-Pluto, Mars-Saturn *Mars in 5th *Aries,Scorpio,Leo,Taurus,Cancer mars
I got Mars right at the beginning of the 6th house - some chart systems place it in the fifth. It's in Cancer and squares Jupiter, Saturn AND Mars. ...Perhaps I am the Last Dragon. I have my moments, though where I'm whimpering like a little punk. It's complex. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 02:53 AM
My master used to say that martial arts and fighting are different. Martial arts are more about style, artistic and character development. There are martial artists who don’t “fight” well. For aspects: My husband has mars square pluto, trine ascendant. He’s good at martial art and has won a few medals. The style he practices is more about having a calm and tranquil mind, so yeah the techniques are graceful and “clean”. I have mars oppose pluto, trine ascendant and Saturn, Saturn sextile pluto. The style I practice isn't “artistic”. It’s more about survival, hence it’s more combative and primal. I’m not that good, but I'm able to defend myself. My husband's martial art master is always like "Keep calm keep calm, clear your mind". Mine was always shouting "Do not get scared, get ANGRY" lol IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 9169 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted April 16, 2013 02:54 AM
I have lots of fight with my square between Mars and Pluto but the orb is wide. IP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 02:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: My master used to say that martial arts and fighting are different. Martial arts are more about style, artistic and character development. There are martial artists who don’t “fight” well. For aspects: My husband has mars square pluto, trine ascendant. He’s good at martial art and has won a few medals. The style he practices is more about having a calm and tranquil mind, so yeah the techniques are graceful and “clean”. I have mars oppose pluto, trine ascendant and Saturn, Saturn sextile pluto. I’ve had training, but the style isn’t very “artistic”. It’s more about survival, hence it’s more combative and primal. I’m not that good, but I’ve been able to fend off people who attack me.
Bruce Lee said the same stuff decades ago actually. How a lot of the movements in traditional martial arts aren't really useful in an actual streetfight which led to him creating Jeet Kun Do.
I don't take a martial art, although I've thrown around the idea in the past during my Bruce Lee movie obsession years ago. I'm little, but I do absolutely believe that, if I were put in a situation where I had to fight and my life depended on it, all those Mars squares would come to the fore...I think I'd walk away just fine. I'm not so sure about my opponent. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 3075 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 03:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Snorkel: Bruce Lee said the same stuff decades ago actually. How a lot of the movements in traditional martial arts aren't really useful in an actual streetfight which led to him creating Jeet Kun Do.I don't take a martial art, although I've thrown around the idea in the past during my Bruce Lee movie obsession years ago. I'm little, but I do absolutely believe that, if I were put in a situation where I had to fight and my life depended on it, all those Mars squares would come to the fore...I think I'd walk away just fine. I'm not so sure about my opponent.
Yeah I know what you mean, a lot of people are natural fighters when they are in a tough situation. Years ago one of my female friends was attacked by a guy and she fought like a wolf. She got a black eye, cut lips and stuff, but the guy was in a very bad state lol. For me, my frame is small and I'm rather weak physically, so I need some techniques that can bring the attacker down quickly, or hurt them enough to buy time to run away.
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Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 03:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by 12muddy: Yeah I know what you mean, a lot of people are natural fighters when they are in a tough situation. Years ago one of my female friends was attacked by a guy and she fought like a wolf. She got a black eye, cut lips and stuff, but the guy was in a very bad state lol.For me, my frame is small and I'm rather weak physically, so I need some techniques that can bring the attacker down quickly, or hurt them enough to buy time to run away.
Your friends situation reminds me of that scene in the movie "Bundy" where the girl started wailing on Ted in the car and ultimately got away, my brother was laughing his ass off going, "She's putting in WORK on him..."
I'm 4'11'' and under 100 pounds, so not a big girl, but honestly I think once the adrenaline kicked in I'd be able to kick the ass of a guy twice my size if I knew my life depended on it. I have the Uranian planet Vulcanus conjunct my Mars too so I'm really not that worried. IP: Logged |
depth Knowflake Posts: 606 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted April 16, 2013 04:07 AM
I don't practice martial arts but am a good fighter, when angry. It becomes a kill or die situation for me cause I take my fights seriously. I've sun conj mars mars sext saturn mars square 8h moon(primal, survival need)I know a martial arts trainer with a libra mars square cap uranus. His style's more combative. IP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 16, 2013 04:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by depth: I don't practice martial arts but am a good fighter, when angry. It becomes a kill or die situation for me cause I take my fights seriously. I've sun conj mars mars sext saturn mars square 8h moon(primal, survival need)I know a martial arts trainer with a libra mars square cap uranus. His style's more combative.
Moon-Mars energy has to be somewhat similar to Mars in Cancer...
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hikoro Knowflake Posts: 1316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 05:12 AM
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Swift Freeze Moderator Posts: 736 From: Dreams Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 16, 2013 07:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Snorkel: Bruce Lee said the same stuff decades ago actually. How a lot of the movements in traditional martial arts aren't really useful in an actual streetfight which led to him creating Jeet Kun Do.I don't take a martial art, although I've thrown around the idea in the past during my Bruce Lee movie obsession years ago. I'm little, but I do absolutely believe that, if I were put in a situation where I had to fight and my life depended on it, all those Mars squares would come to the fore...I think I'd walk away just fine. I'm not so sure about my opponent.
Jeet Kun Do is not a martial art, it's more of a philosophy. The idea of taking all the practical and useful bits from various martial arts and adding it to your repertoire. These days, instructors offer "jeet kun do" as a martial art. It may or may not involve teaching a variety of moves from different martial arts, however ultimately it is something that a martial arts practitioner should embrace as an ideal and learning principle. Looking at it from the perspective of fighting, a roundhouse kick, is really not that practical. Nor is an uppercut. Practical strikes include, knee and elbow strikes, hammer-fist strikes and headbutts to name some of the most useful. If you want to learn to defend yourself I would recommend any of the following martial arts; Jujitsu, Brazilian Jujitsu, Judo, Aikido, Muay Thai, Boxing. Maybe a particularly heavy striking form of karate, perhaps Shotokan, which I practiced for a year, or i've hear Kyokushin Karate is relatively heavy striking. Krav Maga if you can find it could also be useful, although Krav Maga is a martial art, it is similar in principle to Jeet Kun do, a wide variety of effective techniques to use in danger situations. Fundamentally, the majority of fights end up, in close quarters grappling, doing something like Jujitsu of some form, will give you a huge advantage over those who do not know how to grapple. Most hip rotation for throws, pins and locks are very similar across the disciplines. Most forms of striking use the same techniques to deliver strikes, rotation, body position, weight transfer etc. My advice would be to take at least one grappling and one striking discipline for a minimum of 6 months, preferably a year. After either length of time, you can decide whether it is worthwhile to continue. It is important to make sure that you actually get to practice both strikes and grapples, in a heavy sparring environment. So you can use your whole force, and know how it may feel in a real situation. - Chris ------------------ Learn lots. Don't judge. Laugh for no reason. Be nice. Seek Happiness. Follow your dreams. IP: Logged |
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posted April 16, 2013 10:34 AM
I read mars in pisces a great placement for martial arts because it requires not only strength but patience spirituality and creativity. Unless you want to be like cobra kai..IP: Logged |
Snorkel Knowflake Posts: 239 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 17, 2013 01:05 AM
quote: Originally posted by Swift Freeze: Jeet Kun Do is not a martial art, it's more of a philosophy. The idea of taking all the practical and useful bits from various martial arts and adding it to your repertoire. These days, instructors offer "jeet kun do" as a martial art. It may or may not involve teaching a variety of moves from different martial arts, however ultimately it is something that a martial arts practitioner should embrace as an ideal and learning principle.Looking at it from the perspective of fighting, a roundhouse kick, is really not that practical. Nor is an uppercut. Practical strikes include, knee and elbow strikes, hammer-fist strikes and headbutts to name some of the most useful. If you want to learn to defend yourself I would recommend any of the following martial arts; Jujitsu, Brazilian Jujitsu, Judo, Aikido, Muay Thai, Boxing. Maybe a particularly heavy striking form of karate, perhaps Shotokan, which I practiced for a year, or i've hear Kyokushin Karate is relatively heavy striking. Krav Maga if you can find it could also be useful, although Krav Maga is a martial art, it is similar in principle to Jeet Kun do, a wide variety of effective techniques to use in danger situations. Fundamentally, the majority of fights end up, in close quarters grappling, doing something like Jujitsu of some form, will give you a [b]huge advantage over those who do not know how to grapple. Most hip rotation for throws, pins and locks are very similar across the disciplines. Most forms of striking use the same techniques to deliver strikes, rotation, body position, weight transfer etc. My advice would be to take at least one grappling and one striking discipline for a minimum of 6 months, preferably a year. After either length of time, you can decide whether it is worthwhile to continue. It is important to make sure that you actually get to practice both strikes and grapples, in a heavy sparring environment. So you can use your whole force, and know how it may feel in a real situation. - Chris [/B]
I know, some of Bruce Lee's students teach Jeet Kune Do now.
I thought Krav Maga was mostly kicking with a little punching thrown in? As far as specific types I'm one of those that likes the flashier, fanciful, not-all-that-practical types like you see in all the kung fu and wuxia movies. I wanna be a ninja, basically lmao. I saw this series years ago when it first aired and was pretending to be a martial artist for a week afterwards : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUUdE58nZ5A "Human Weapon" is good too : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPx1P67LugE IP: Logged |
starfox Moderator Posts: 931 From: London England Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 17, 2013 05:13 PM
I saw the shaolin monks at a display recently, a lot of it was 'showbiz' martial arts.If I was to do any martial arts again I would try western boxing over most of the others. IP: Logged | |