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Jessica2407
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posted April 17, 2013 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to cafeastrology,I should be careful not to bend over backwards just to keep the peace,as I may be taken advantage of. It's true. I tend to analyze situations real fast and readily adjust to play nice because I really don't like disharmonious relationships.

Anything else?

Calling out all the 7th house Venus to share their experiences

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posted April 17, 2013 01:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alphabetically, or by category?

Codependence issues, lack of self-love and ability to view oneself as beautiful without a partner, putting up with too much crap in the context of a relationship and constantly trying to smooth it over (Venus - diplomacy - in the 7th - the house of relationships). In my case, it's compounded by a clingy moon. So I'm not sure how much I can attribute to which placement. But I think Venus in the 1st is more favourable.

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posted April 17, 2013 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Alphabetically, or by category?


Say what?

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posted April 17, 2013 01:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Say what?



Just kidding around. I meant to say, you know, it's a long list. Brace yourself .

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Jessica2407
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posted April 17, 2013 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
''Codependence issues, lack of self-love and ability to view oneself as beautiful without a partner, putting up with too much crap in the context of a relationship and constantly trying to smooth it over (Venus - diplomacy - in the 7th - the house of relationships). In my case, it's compounded by a clingy moon. So I'm not sure how much I can attribute to which placement. But I think Venus in the 1st is more favourable.''

My 7th house Venus doesn't work like that for me.I don't try to constantly smooth things over.BUT I don't like petty fights.

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posted April 17, 2013 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Just kidding around. I meant to say, you know, it's a long list. Brace yourself .

LOL.

Sorry, didn't catch the joke. Am in my serious mood! LOL

Nah, that's what this thread is about...give me your list lol

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posted April 17, 2013 01:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This from dkfoundation (I've always found their descriptions in general to be uncannily accurate).

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With Venus in the 7th House a person feels a great need for a committed relationship in order to bring love into his life. With this placement there is frequently a marked lack of self-love: self-worth comes from being in a partnership. Venus in its own House is usually faithful and anxious to fulfill the partners expectations but the eagerness to get into a relationship may make a person indiscriminate in his choice and too willing to expect the formal trappings of marriage to be a substitute for true compatibility. In relationships of all kinds there is a tendency for the Venus person to place too much faith in the superficial indications of suitability. Yet no matter how many adverse exper­iences there may be, a person with Venus in H7 tends to keep alive the hope that he may one day meet his soul mate.

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posted April 17, 2013 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ yeah I read that description...do you relate to this? I don't.

I love myself a lot

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
According to cafeastrology,I should be careful not to bend over backwards just to keep the peace,as I may be taken advantage of. It's true. I tend to analyze situations real fast and readily adjust to play nice because I really don't like disharmonious relationships.

Anything else?

Calling out all the 7th house Venus to share their experiences


I have this placement, Venus in Leo to be precise in the 7th opposite my Ascendant and I don't see to much of a downside to it. That might be because I'm a Libra so I naturally have had to deal with the downsides of having Venus dominant in my chart. I'd say it can be frustrating being a people pleaser. Especially when your young and you want to impress people or fit in. I'm no longer a people pleaser though. I only tend to see positive with this placement.

You've got a pretty unlimited supply of attraction from others, because this placement is ideal for Venus (being at home) you've got a pretty good chance for having a wonderful partner relationship later in life.

Edit: I've got Mars in the 1st so it's an opposite house placement to Venus in the 7th. I've always battled between being too independent/aggressive to being too accommodating/peace seeking. It's a balancing act.

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posted April 17, 2013 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
I have this placement, Venus in Leo to be precise in the 7th opposite my Ascendant and I don't see to much of a downside to it. That might be because I'm a Libra so I naturally have had to deal with the downsides of having Venus dominant in my chart. I'd say it can be frustrating being a people pleaser. Especially when your young and you want to impress people or fit in. I'm no longer a people pleaser though. I only tend to see positive with this placement.

You've got a pretty unlimited supply of attraction from others, because this placement is ideal for Venus (being at home) you've got a pretty good chance for having a wonderful partner relationship later in life.


Moi aussi Venus in Leo.

I don't relate to the descriptions I read on the net, I was wondering what are the other downside to this placement,besides being a people pleaser/peacemaker.LOL.Because I don't view my venus in 7th as a sign of weakness.True, I'm very generous with my affections but I very much expect the same in return,and won't settle for anything less that what I'm giving.

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posted April 17, 2013 02:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ yeah I read that description...do you relate to this? I don't.

I love myself a lot



Leo rising as well and no I don't. I can be intellectually arrogant (tons of Aquarius and Sag energy in a chart tends to manifest like that lol), and I think I'm pretty smart, but apart from that I don't think there's anything all that great about me, especially aesthetically. Viewing myself through the adoring eyes of a lover brings down the level of self-hatred but definitely doesn't ever get to the point of self-love. So I could identify with the description quite a bit.

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Moi aussi Venus in Leo.

I don't relate to the descriptions I read on the net, I was wondering what are the other downside to this placement,besides being a people pleaser/peacemaker.LOL.Because I don't view my venus in 7th as a sign of weakness.True, I'm very generous with my affections but I very much expect the same in return,and won't settle for anything less that what I'm giving.


Cheers to Venus in Leo's!

I don't consider Venus in the 7th to be a weakness. It's a strong placement because Venus is at home. The reason you might not relate to the descriptions on the internet is because everyone's different. You've got aspects to your Venus that might adjust the way you experience that placement. I'll even say my history of being a peacemaker comes more from having my Sun in Libra then Venus in Leo in the 7th. You know first hand how dignified and proud Venus in Leo's are. That's a strong Venus placement that's not known to allow others to push them around. So many things have to be taken into consideration.

I guess the question you should ask yourself is what do you feel is the downside to having this placement taking into consideration the aspects you have to your Venus? Only you know. Aquacheeka and I are just giving you our perspectives from personal experience. But you might not experience Venus in the 7th the same way we do.

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posted April 17, 2013 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe my Venus is afflicted :/

Venus conjunct saturn (chart ruler) 5 degree
venus inconjunct mars -1 degree
venus conjunct mercury exact
venus sq uranus 8 degree
venus trine neptune exact
venus sq NN -3 degree
venus sq chiron 8 degree
venus sextile pluto -2 degree
venus trine kaali
venus quintile libra MC exact

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Your Venus has a lot of activity, both positive and negative aspects. That conjunction to Mercury eases things a bit. But it's also conjunct Saturn. That's a stern placement. It might actually play a part in why you experience your 7th house Venus a bit differently. You take relationships seriously, and you aren't one to sit back for unfairness on any level in relationships. I'm guessing you also have Mercury and Saturn in your 7th. Which means you have a pretty packed 7th house. Most of the descriptions on the internet are generalized to imagine Venus as a singleton in the 7th. They don't usually take into consideration aspects or other 7th house placements. Saturn in the 7th is a sturdy placement. I can't imagine anyone with this placement being a people pleaser. This is to say you don't let people walk all over you. You know what you need and deserve.

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posted April 17, 2013 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ I have quite a packed 7th house. Sun,mercury,saturn and venus.I take relationships very seriously.That's why I don't go out on dates or go out with someone for just fun.I see it as a waste of my time and energy.

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
^^ I have quite a packed 7th house. Sun,mercury,saturn and venus.I take relationships very seriously.That's why I don't go out on dates or go out with someone for just fun.I see it as a waste of my time and energy.

Wow, yeah that's a full house! I can understand more about why you experience your 7th house energies so uniquely. It's been your life lesson in a sense to understand your relationship with yourself and how you relate to others.

As long as you're happy in life and don't see your 7th house placements as holding you back from experiencing life to the fullest. Saturn in the 7th isn't the easiest placement. You should do more research on the placement if you haven't already. It's almost a constricting placement. I don't know if you ever feel like your bound to your standards and principles when it comes to relationships, so much so you can't loosen the reins when it comes to your expectations of others. You want to have your standards but still find a way to be open to all types of people and relationships. You said you don't really date because you see it as a waste of your time and energy. I think that speaks more to your Saturn traits, because 7th house Venus types tend to be very open to all kinds of social activity especially dating because the 7th house is the house of relating and relationships. The more I understand your chart and those 7th house placements, it makes sense why the descriptions you've read online don't really match how you feel on a personal level.

My Venus in the 7th is trine Saturn and I tend to take relationships pretty seriously like you as well. But it's also trine Uranus so I'm into weird/unconventional relationship situations lol.

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posted April 17, 2013 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lotus_flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I always wished I had venus in the 7th....

It always seemed more reasonable than the other three planets I have there.

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posted April 18, 2013 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Wow, yeah that's a full house! I can understand more about why you experience your 7th house energies so uniquely. It's been your life lesson in a sense to understand your relationship with yourself and how you relate to others.

As long as you're happy in life and don't see your 7th house placements as holding you back from experiencing life to the fullest. Saturn in the 7th isn't the easiest placement. You should do more research on the placement if you haven't already. It's almost a constricting placement. I don't know if you ever feel like your bound to your standards and principles when it comes to relationships, so much so you can't loosen the reins when it comes to your expectations of others. You want to have your standards but still find a way to be open to all types of people and relationships. You said you don't really date because you see it as a waste of your time and energy. I think that speaks more to your Saturn traits, because 7th house Venus types tend to be very open to all kinds of social activity especially dating because the 7th house is the house of relating and relationships. The more I understand your chart and those 7th house placements, it makes sense why the descriptions you've read online don't really match how you feel on a personal level.

My Venus in the 7th is trine Saturn and I tend to take relationships pretty seriously like you as well. But it's also trine Uranus so I'm into weird/unconventional relationship situations lol.


My natal chart revolves around my 7th house.If I know my 7th house a little more, I feel there are so many of my questions that would be answered.My ASC ruler Saturn (am capricorn rising) aspects my 7th house stellium (Leo) Cancer is my 7th house,its ruler Moon is in 6th house Cancer,trines Uranus.I attract unconventional relationships too.Jupiter in the 5th house sextile natural 5th house ruler Sun in the 7th house. Indeed, Saturn in the 7th house is a constricting influence.I'm pretty focused on knowing my 7th house placement and Saturn in 7th.I feel the planets in my 7th house competes with each other at times, but in the end it's Saturn that wins lol.However, I feel my Sun as well as I feel the influence of my Saturn. I tend to attract powerful guys character,and status wise....It's that part that I'm trying to figure out...LOL

Anyways,I want to have a partner that is fun and outgoing,but I won't enjoy a fun and outgoing relationship without a commitment.You are right, I won't loosen up on what I see just and fair, what I view as principles.I won't let go of what I believe is right for the sake of a relationship,that's entirely opposite to what I read about a 7th house Venus.That being said, I dislike petty fights,I make it my responsibity smh to restore peace and harmony lol when it's not really entirely up to me to do that.When I invest myself in a relationship I'm very demanding of the other person.Just to say that I'm a whole different person when am friends with a guy and when I'm in a relationship.That's the reason why I don't favour relationship that progresses from friends to romantic involvement.Friends likely see me as laid back,easy going type of girl when in truth there is nothing 'easy' about me.LOL

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posted April 18, 2013 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swift Freeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Saturn in the 7th isn't the easiest placement.It's almost a constricting placement.

imho I do not think that Saturn is ever really a constricting placement or body. I always feel like it gets a hugely negative reputation, when all it really wants is for us not to fight it. When people fight Saturn and the lessons he has to teach us. That is when things go horribly wrong and people start saying, "oh it was all Saturn's fault, he was transiting, he was sitting on my..." My point is, if you step back, listen to what Saturn is telling you, he can be an incredibly positive driving force and force for change. He will teach you what you need to know, and as long as we listen, and put into practice what he gives us, we can go on to new and different things.

Having Saturn in the 7th, he wants to teach you what the important things in relationships are, whether friendly, platonic, romantic, or enemies. So step back, listen to what he is telling you, whether it is, "you are not complete enough yet for relationships, you need to work on this and that." Saturn is only trying to groom you for success, to give you the tools, to become the best possible version of you, you can be.

That is how I feel at least.

- Chris

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posted April 18, 2013 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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imho I do not think that Saturn is ever really a constricting placement or body. I always feel like it gets a hugely negative reputation, when all it really wants is for us not to fight it. When people fight Saturn and the lessons he has to teach us. That is when things go horribly wrong and people start saying, "oh it was all Saturn's fault, he was transiting, he was sitting on my..." My point is, if you step back, listen to what Saturn is telling you, he can be an incredibly positive driving force and force for change. He will teach you what you need to know, and as long as we listen, and put into practice what he gives us, we can go on to new and different things.

Having Saturn in the 7th, he wants to teach you what the important things in relationships are, whether friendly, platonic, romantic, or enemies. So step back, listen to what he is telling you, whether it is, "you are not complete enough yet for relationships, you need to work on this and that." Saturn is only trying to groom you for success, to give you the tools, to become the best possible version of you, you can be.

That is how I feel at least.

- Chris


You have a 7th house Saturn too?


Yes.Saturn has my best interests at heart,yet he is a constricting influence for a good reason I don't fight it, I don't go against his wishes.I know exactly when I should step back and let the universe take the reins.

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imho I do not think that Saturn is ever really a constricting placement or body. I always feel like it gets a hugely negative reputation, when all it really wants is for us not to fight it.

I don't see Saturn as negative and didn't speak to that sentiment. I stated as far as relationships go having Saturn in the 7th could feel a bit constricting. The 7th is a very social and active house. Saturn is the taskmaster, structuring and creating order. In the 7th, it's not the most comfortable placement. Saturn restricts in order to structure. You can't structure if your expanding in 80 different directions. Like all the planets, Saturn has lessons to teach. These lessons are neither good or bad, positive or negative, but we experience them in a variety of different ways. Giving Saturn too much control could work against the expression of other planets in the natal chart especially if they share the same house. This is why I mentioned among other planets Saturn can feel constricting. But it's a balancing act and a lesson in setting boundaries in order to allow each planet the full expression of their energies without limiting the expression of any other placements.

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
Yes.Saturn has my best interests at heart,yet he is a constricting influence for a good reason I don't fight it, I don't go against his wishes.I know exactly when I should step back and let the universe take the reins.

I agree. I'm dominant Saturn in my chart and I do believe he has all of our best interests at heart.

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Anyways,I want to have a partner that is fun and outgoing,but I won't enjoy a fun and outgoing relationship without a commitment.You are right, I won't loosen up on what I see just and fair, what I view as principles.I won't let go of what I believe is right for the sake of a relationship,that's entirely opposite to what I read about a 7th house Venus.That being said, I dislike petty fights,I make it my responsibity smh to restore peace and harmony lol when it's not really entirely up to me to do that.When I invest myself in a relationship I'm very demanding of the other person.Just to say that I'm a whole different person when am friends with a guy and when I'm in a relationship.That's the reason why I don't favour relationship that progresses from friends to romantic involvement.Friends likely see me as laid back,easy going type of girl when in truth there is nothing 'easy' about me.LOL

With those 7th house placements everything you've said makes sense. I hope you find what you're looking for.

I have my Sun at the end of the 7th house. I tend to like outgoing types, but I find my self as I grow older, more and more attracted to the more quiet but still very open personalities. They have to of course be nice and friendly (Venus talking). I take relationships seriously but commitment isn't a deal breaker for me. This might speak more to my Uranus traits. I think loyalty is more important to me. I've never wanted to get married and on an intellectual level have never understood the logic behind the practice.

See, we've both got Venus in the 7th (in Leo to boot) but we experience those energies very differently.

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posted April 18, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Yes indeed

Saturn in the 7th also indicates karmic relationships isn't it?

How does Mercury in the 7th plays out?

My Uranus in scorp squares my 7th house stellium and square my ASC. I have an Uranian influence as well, yet I want a committed relationship,therefore experiencing the Uranian energy differently from what I read on the net..

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posted April 18, 2013 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neilthecellist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
According to cafeastrology,I should be careful not to bend over backwards just to keep the peace,as I may be taken advantage of. It's true. I tend to analyze situations real fast and readily adjust to play nice because I really don't like disharmonious relationships.

Anything else?

Calling out all the 7th house Venus to share their experiences


That's the fundamental gist of it. Everything else would be a supporting detail to that thesis. Do not bend over backwards so easily to others. Have 1 client on file with this placement. Is constantly a beta to her peers and partner.

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