posted April 17, 2013 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
By "like" this could range anywhere from platonically to romantically. I was wondering what traits make Sags cling to someone? What signs do Sags end up being best friends with? I have a couple Sags in my life right now, yes, but that's exactly what makes me curious about the sign. I can't really ask them these types of questions.

Something else I notice though is Aquarius and Sags tend to be nearly identical with the exception one subdues their emotions and the other can't (very well.)

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posted April 17, 2013 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by starmoon:
my brother is a sag moon and his long-term gfs were often Gemini or Libra suns (don't know their moons)... girls that I *think* can handle that scattered energy. he eventually ended up with a Gemini; his worst relationship was a Scorpio sun, and he has always loved Leo women who weren't too strong

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posted April 17, 2013 06:10 PM            

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I just feel as an Aries I should be able to captivate them easier than this.

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posted April 17, 2013 06:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
The Sun2Sun trine only makes it easier to 'captivate' the person - when it is an *exact* trine.
So unless the Sags you met had their Suns at the same degree as your Aries Sun - it won't be that strong - and other synastry aspects would take over.

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posted April 17, 2013 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by depth:
As a sag, I do exceptionally well with aquas and geminis. Aquas are rebellious, brave, not too needy/clingy, open minded, rational, experimental while geminis are carefree, funny and fun. I'm fine with all signs but leo women, pisces & caps.

I want a partner with whom I can travel the world, taste exotic cuisines & laugh, who's possessive & controlling without being too restrictive, loves change, does crazy things but is mature & responsible. not a homebody/miser & takes me out often.

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posted April 17, 2013 06:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
gah. ignore my post

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posted April 17, 2013 06:41 PM            

The only way Sags will like me is if they get to know me. Otherwise, they'd prolly blow me off.

As a Scorpio child, Sagittarius children never really liked me.

My Venus: Sagittarius
Mars: Sagittarius
Jupiter: Sagittarius

So, only after I let people in or once one gets to know me.

But, a free spirited/adventurous/humorous person will prolly catch a Sags' eye.

posted April 17, 2013 06:44 PM            

So maybe those who do mesh well with sags would be Air + a dash of water? Or maybe some fire as well.

posted April 17, 2013 06:56 PM            

I do very well with Aquarians. We tend to never get bored of each other and there is a lot of opportunity for adventure. I really like Libras as well if I can ever get one who appreciates the messy, clumsy, awkward side of Sagittarius. Geminis are attractive to me and are a lot of fun, but I can't devote myself to them in a long term capacity, because their cruel side turns me off more than almost any other sign.

As for Aries and Leo, I find both a lot of fun to hang out with. The conversation is usually enjoyable and the sex is usually some of the most fun I have with a partner (though sex with other Sagittarians is the bees knees, if bees wore cat's pajamas). I don't mind the shorter duration of sex which comes along with getting it on with a Fire sign, as long as there is a frequent amount of it.

I think perhaps the determination in Aries can be interesting to Sag at first, but our desire to adventure beyond established perceptions can eventually get the better of us. I find when I am initially attracted to a guy he ends up being an Aries. I love their vibe and they can be amazing partners if their chart leans toward a desire for spiritual discovery.

posted April 17, 2013 07:02 PM            

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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Sags tend to stay away from me at first sight. (Scorpio Asc) but if they get to know me they start liking me. Lol

I don't really like Sags though hahaha. There's a reason why the all knowing Scorpio energy repels Sags.

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God bless this post like, right now! Ugh. Anything "Scorpio" repels Sags.

posted April 17, 2013 07:13 PM            

Also Yin - what do you mean Gemini's cruel side? I have Gemini ASC conjunct Mars so I feel more Geminian. Also, what do you mean established perceptions? I can be all those things (all the good things) mentioned but I feel like I'm not given an outlet to express it or it's not appreciated.

posted April 17, 2013 07:16 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Which is hilarious because all I ever see are Scorpios and Sags together where I am.

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Yeah, but that's like, after they stop being butt-cracks to each other. xD

They don't know how awesome they are together. But, it's like they're nautral enemies. Of course, there are prolly a lot of Sag x Scorp relationships that have always been harmonious.

posted April 17, 2013 07:20 PM            

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Originally posted by k e p h x i:
Yeah, but that's like, after they stop being butt-cracks to each other. xD

They don't know how awesome they are together. But, it's like they're nautral enemies. Of course, there are prolly a lot of Sag x Scorp relationships that have always been harmonious.

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Most of, if not all, the Sags I've met have Scorpio in their charts (as one of their main personal planets). Yet the Scorpios I know of don't have Sagittarius in them, just Libra! Maybe that's why they work out and the ones you know don't?

posted April 17, 2013 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by AriesKat:
Ive seen sag and caps together.

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posted April 17, 2013 08:14 PM            

I typically attribute his cagey, abandonment-fearing, vindictive, calculating STINGER to his Sun being in the Scorpio dwad, and his Saturn in Scorp being rather prominent as well. I get this, being Libra Sun-Pluto, Scorpio Moon-Merc-Ura, Sag Mars and Virgo Venus, with my rising.

And, a secret. He acts like he hates my finicky and perfectionistic Virgo, always obsessed with the details ... but it's the part of me upon which he became quickly dependent. He can fly by the seat of his pants and wing it like nobody's business - but that's largely because I've got the particulars sorted ahead of time, allowing him so much room to be so spontaneous. I handle the bothersome, boring, nitty-gritty. And, honestly? He doesn't hate it - just has to roll his eyes out of principle, I think. Used to seem as if he actually found it rather sexy. Crazy!

There's no secret to Sag, at heart. It's a mystery to me, and I've known SO many lunar Sags - you'd think I was collecting them. Two of my longest best friends - since elementary - are Sags. (Cancer and Libra Moons respectively.) Oh, we'd do all sorts of nutty things. But they were always down for my madcap schemes, too, so it's all good.

Honestly, it takes something like Scorp or heavy Saturn to introduce a real element of cruelty into their makeup. It's usually just not there. Not inherently. My own posterboy for Sag has hurt me VERY deeply - but that's because he felt justified. If they feel you deserve it, oh, they'll dig in. Deep. They certainly aren't lacking skills in self-preservation.

So, I don't know. All in all, there seems to be similarity across the board. But what's with the ones who play everything SO close to the vest? Who can't allow themselves any degree of intimacy out of so much fear? What's really going on there, I wonder.

posted April 17, 2013 08:31 PM            

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It's weird you say that, hanna, since that's exactly how my Sag is. And he's SO Sag: Sun, Moon, Merc-Ura; insanely blunt, noncommittal (self-professed incapable of emotional investment as it's required in a relationship; all sport sex, no-strings-attached flings) and quite the artful dodger. (He never ANSWERS anything with any sort of directness. Ever.) Venus and Mars both in Aquarius, along with his rising. And, in true Sag form, he's a professional comedian (stand-up, occasional comedic actor).

I typically attribute his cagey, abandonment-fearing, vindictive, calculating STINGER to his Sun being in the Scorpio dwad, and his Saturn in Scorp being rather prominent as well. I get this, being Libra Sun-Pluto, Scorpio Moon-Merc-Ura, Sag Mars and Virgo Venus, with my rising.

And, a secret. He acts like he hates my finicky and perfectionistic Virgo, always obsessed with the details ... but it's the part of me upon which he became quickly dependent. He can fly by the seat of his pants and wing it like nobody's business - but that's largely because I've got the particulars sorted ahead of time, allowing him so much room to be so spontaneous. I handle the bothersome, boring, nitty-gritty. And, honestly? He doesn't hate it - just has to roll his eyes out of principle, I think. Used to seem as if he actually found it rather sexy. Crazy!

There's no secret to Sag, at heart. It's a mystery to me, and I've known SO many lunar Sags - you'd think I was collecting them. Two of my longest best friends - since elementary - are Sags. (Cancer and Libra Moons respectively.) Oh, we'd do all sorts of nutty things. But they were always down for my madcap schemes, too, so it's all good.

Honestly, it takes something like Scorp or heavy Saturn to introduce a real element of cruelty into their makeup. It's usually just not there. Not inherently. My own posterboy for Sag has hurt me VERY deeply - but that's because he felt justified. If they feel you deserve it, oh, they'll dig in. Deep. They certainly aren't lacking skills in self-preservation.

So, I don't know. All in all, there seems to be similarity across the board. But what's with the ones who play everything SO close to the vest? Who can't allow themselves any degree of intimacy out of so much fear? What's really going on there, I wonder.

-A.

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I wish LL had a chat feature because I would be hunting you down right now! The Sag I am miffed about (maybe not so much after your post)has moon in Capricorn, Mercury in Scorpio, Venus in Sag (yay. -_-) and Mars in Libra or Scorpio. I don't know what his rising is, but I'm starting to get a better idea of how he thinks, what makes him tick, etc. after reading your post!

posted April 17, 2013 08:35 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Me too! And again usually the Sag has some kind of Mars or Venus in Capricorn (but of course, not always)

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posted April 17, 2013 10:20 PM            

Come to think of it ... I bet that's why my besties ARE my besties. (Ahem - Blind Writer, ya out there? Are your ears burning?) Merc in Scorpio.

Whereas, I've still no friggin' clue why my Sag is so damned inscrutable all the damned time. But he is. That is, if it's Serious. If it's Important. If ... it Matters. Otherwise, he's zany, goofy - hell, he'll break out into song. (Yes. Really.) But the second you start probing - oh, dear. Shut like a trap.

So, that'd be the end-all of your guy's mystery. We LOVE mystery - we ARE mystery.

Take it from a character that's a reworking of one of his. He ended up with a pretty clear Sag-Scorp thing going on - dash of Leo, maybe - and with his love interest-slash-nemesis (like ya do) who's mostly Scorp-Sag and Aquarius. (Oh, the fireworks ... )

(It's between 'John Smith' - so not his real name - and Agent Evangeline 'Evan' Ward from a TBD project on the back-burner. Dramedy thing. He's a professional stalker with your classic mysterious past, she's a PTSD-ridden BAU profiler on leave who's suddenly come to need his help, much to her chagrin ... the man who virtually doesn't exist. Except, of course, he does. Fun times.)

J: Okay, now THAT's creepy.
E: Sorry?
J: ... How did you know about my fourth grade hockey scar?
(Evan grins.)
J: ... Actually, better question. HOW did you know about my fourth grade hockey scar?
She twirls with her cell phone at her ear like a school-girl sharing gossip. A coy expression plays upon her lips.)
E: Why? Jealous?
J: And here I thought you knew me.
E: Ohh, but I do. Better than you know yourself.
J: And therein lies the problem.
(She's rocked. Coyness gone.)
E: How so?
(A sly grin spreads across his face as he leisurely leans back in his chair. Cool as a cucumber.)
J: You can't keep taking away the mystery, Agent Ward. Soon there'll be nothing left.
(She relaxes, realisation flooding her features. Piece of cake.)
E: Oh, I seriously doubt that. You're nothing but mystery, Mr Smith.
J: Can't help it if everyone loves a good mystery. Especially you.
(She smiles, preparing to land her next zinger when ... she heard the familiar dual beep from her phone. But just in case - )
E: ... John?
(Nope. She rolls her eyes; her breath hitches. She runs her fingers through her hair. Panic mode is imminent. Softer, quieter, futilely - )
E: John?
(She's speaking into a void. Slams her phone onto the nearest surface.)
E: DAMN it!
(He's gone. Again.)

... And scene. I love that one. For me, those two are the embodiment of the bizarre chase that ensues when Sag and Scorp are involved. It seems so lighthearted ... jovial ... flirty. But then the fear sets in. Lockdown mode is initiated. And, even if you're not tasked with tracking him down, anyone with personal experience like Evan's knows the sheer frustration from such an ordeal, over and over again.

Swear to God, when Showtime's 'Homeland' came out, I couldn't help but thinking how much the tone of their conversations (read: interrogations) reminded me of ANY conversation EVER with my Sag.

Even the deep, meaningful ones - where he ACTUALLY confided powerful things!

And his Merc's in Sag. Conjunct Uranus! I can't imagine if he actually had a Scorp Merc like mine. Good God. As to why he's Mr Mysterious, I can only guess it's his past that's done it. Maybe being a Moon-Nep parallel? Semisextile Pluto? Can't be. Uhhh ... Merc's final dispositor is Pluto in Sco? (It disposits to Jup in Cap, then Sat in Sco, then Plu in Sco.) I have no idea!

Helluva ride, though.