posted April 18, 2013 07:08 AM            

I can see how squares can be difficult (I have lots of them) and they are usually more internal - as you said - than external. But they can be worked with.

Oppositions are trickier because they usually involve other people, so you may keep attracting the same type of obstacles that are not apparently dependent on you (but they represent an internal "split"). It can be very frustrating, because when you express one planet's energy, the other planet's energy tends to be repressed or expressed by someone else. It can be hard to reconcile the two and that's why people with oppositions tend to do a lot of projecting and attract their shadow very easily.

But, to be honest, I don't think there's that much of a difference between a square and an opposition in the end. Both aspects point to tension between energies and a need for resolution of psychic conflicts. It's just that their manifestations are slightly different.

I would say that the square is generally more potent and problematic, though. It tends to be very intense and hard to deal with, like an internal feeling discomfort or "war".

So if I had to choose, I'd say oppositions.

Edit: no, actually no. I'd rather have squares involving outer planets and oppositions between personal planets. Yep, that's it!

posted April 18, 2013 08:24 AM            

I'd rather have squares because even though theyre also very frustrating, at least you dont feel like you're swinging back n forth being one way to the other and bak again. I think squares are more subconsious, and i agree with the person who said oppositions usually mean dealing with other people while squares are internal problems. Bc i hate drama and dealing with people, id rather have squares where i can resolve my own problens by introspection, rather than having to deal with how other people make me feel.

I also prefer squares in synastry. Man, oppositions are so frustrating. It's like you dont get that person at all. At least with squares there is passion and fascination

posted April 18, 2013 02:28 PM            

Prior to discovering astrology, I would agree with the lot of you: Never in balance with one self, constantly on a "pendulum".

However, after discovering astrology I find myself understanding how to nurture others in order to extract what I need from them (Capricorn catch phrase, "I use"). By pulling what I need from people in the 7th house to my 1st, I get what I want, they get what they want-- Or rather, what I project what they want. (emotional nurturing in exchange for gifts).

Also, I end up getting a lot of e-gifts from this process now. Facebook Starbucks gift cards are usually the common form of repayment. (My Jupiter rules my 12th house completely and 11th partially).

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As far as squares go, I have Venus Sagittarius in 12th square my Virgo moon in 8th. Again, prior to discovering astrology I was in constant imbalance, flaming at people. Now, if I find that people don't agree with me, I follow the process and order (Capricorn stellium first house, Saturn/Uranus/Neptune) and then move on, as part of the process (or because that's the disappating nature of the 12th house, whatever).

Also, I find myself using the phrase "whatever" now (12th house) without feeling like I'm doing myself an imperfect disservice (Moon Virgo 8th). I could care less what people generally think of me now, as by listening to what most people have to say (generally negative things, just look at any Youtube video's comments an all you'll see is flaming, trolling), I wouldn't be successful in life. By learning to go on my own, while utilizing the Virgo moon's perfections, despite the square, I have succeeded and will not stop.

As Commander Shepard would say in Mass Effect 2, "You can either fight by my side, or get crushed at my heel, but you will NOT stand in my way."

posted April 18, 2013 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
id rather have squares.
every trial you overcome makes you a stronger and better person.

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This!

posted April 18, 2013 04:37 PM            

For instance, if they had a square from Aquarius to my Taurus Moon - I'm good with that. But, if they have the square from Leo to my Taurus Moon, I'm not to keen on. If they have Pluto square my Sun (Capricorn), that's fine, if they have Mercury square my Sun (Libra) I'm fine, but from Aries, not fine.

Oppositions require cooperation... squares require negotiation... as stated here by others. An opposition only works when both energies meet and blend or balance, squares only work when at least one person agrees to compromise, and at least one of the two are determined to overcome that hurdle.

I can handle interacting with most my Solar oppositions. But, that's because the solar opposite ruler is strong in my chart. It doesn't take so much to balance those connections. It depends on different things going on in each chart how well you can grow or benefit from those harsh aspects... and, it depends on whether or not it is worth all that effort that those relationships usually call for as well.

I think I'm becoming known as the one here with the weird square obsession. lol Oppositions to me are not such a problem, not at all... squares are interesting to me, and I find it hard to view them the way the majority would describe them. It's not that I disagree that they are essentially difficult aspects to have in any chart, but that they contain the greatest potential to achieve more, to evolve more... I guess... squares are like gifts with too much wrapping and tape on them... you gotta fight with them a bit before you get the prize inside. I like looking at them this way. That doesn't mean that gift is what a person will want or expect... they may be very ungrateful for it at first, but somehow those are the gifts that end up being the most useful or valuable down the line, even if we don't immediately see that result. ^^;

In fact, the worst aspect, the one I prefer the least, or maybe even dislike the most - are Sun conjunctions... at least in synastry.

My Sun is very sensitive to direct aspect contacts...
*sigh* ~I'm weird.....

My chart lacks oppositions and squares. >.>; So as a natal I only have axis squares/oppositions. (Or if you want to get technical, hard aspects by duad, I like to call them "invisible squared"). ^^;

*floaton*

posted April 18, 2013 06:21 PM            

I've got a fixed T-square in cardinal houses plus another opposition and another square. I can't say that I really feel any difference between the two types of aspects, perhaps because of the T-square. Both types of aspects give energy to any trines and sextiles elsewhere in your chart. Both types get easier to handle with time (age and practice).

posted April 19, 2013 02:19 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I just want oppositions with sextiles and trines to the planets doing the opposing

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Ditto