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goatcat
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posted April 18, 2013 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone else with Uranus in the fourth house dealt with rebellion in the home growing up?

My Jupiter in Libra in the first house squares Uranus in the Fourth house.

I interpret this as growth and expansion is achieved thru self identity through socialization. But it squares my home life so...

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posted April 18, 2013 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AshSkye     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus would be in my fourth house if I used whole signs which is maybe more accurate, it's the ruler of the fourth anyway and my home life was definitely different, I had to grow up fast and it wasn't really a big family and any extended family there was a slight hate there.
Saturn's in there as well which may explain the crap home life a bit more!

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posted April 18, 2013 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm 20 years old and I live with my mother. When I'm out socializing I do learn a lot about myself but there's a strain because my mother wants me home most of the time.

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posted April 18, 2013 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find myself constantly rebelling against the home.
My Neptune is in the fourth as well.

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posted April 18, 2013 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AshSkye:
Uranus would be in my fourth house if I used whole signs which is maybe more accurate, it's the ruler of the fourth anyway and my home life was definitely different, I had to grow up fast and it wasn't really a big family and any extended family there was a slight hate there.
Saturn's in there as well which may explain the crap home life a bit more!

Maybe Uranus isn't good for the fourth house.

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posted April 18, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is in the fourth house, Mercury in the fourth.

*sigh*

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posted April 18, 2013 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goatcat:
My sun is in the fourth house, Mercury in the fourth.

*sigh*


It also depends upon the ruler of your fourth house. I assume you have capricorn in 4th house cusp, any hard aspects to saturn?

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posted April 18, 2013 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I do have difficulty with home life and Capricorn Uranus in the 4th but the cusp is in Sagittarius.

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posted April 18, 2013 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just about every malefic BUT Uranus there.

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posted April 18, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
I have just about every malefic BUT Uranus there.

I bet you have an interesting homelife

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posted April 18, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for themischievousone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My SO has uranus in the 4th house (sag) and the other day I was reading this to him:

Your early life may be quite inconsistent and unpredictable, or sudden changes may have occurred that prevent you from having a normal home life. If your parents are very supportive of you, this should not be a problem. The result will be that you may grow up with a sense of not belonging anywhere or to anyone in particular, but not being very upset with it. At best, this is a sign of a free spirit who can be at home anywhere.

But this placement can also indicate insecurity because of the sudden disruptions in your personal life. You may move often and without warning during childhood, or major changes may take place in the family, which are unsettling. (from astro.com)

Uranus was found in the fourth house at the time of your birth. Many intense and powerful influences are opposed to desires for stability. You struggle, fight, plan, and act; but in the end Uranus with its catastrophic character destroys your illusions in a devastating and sudden manner. From the beginning to the end of your existence there are going to be many sudden changes of domicile. Due to some odd source of disharmony in your family or to general misfortune in the place of birth, Uranus may impel you to move far away in an effort to escape. There is also a strong desire to liberate yourself from restrictions imposed by your home and family. Some possible sources of difficulty in your private life could be a consequence of your impulse towards freedom which is difficult to control.

He was saying that was the most accurate astrology description I ever read to him.


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posted April 18, 2013 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus in the 4H.

My parents were strictly Catholic, and I refused to get confirmed...just defied the whole religion openly from an early age.

I did have a lot of difficulty with my home life growing up. I'm the youngest of six kids, so it's a long story...my interactions with each family member presented its own set of challenges. As adults we are spread out across the country and almost never see each other, but we are on good terms this way!

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posted April 18, 2013 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I bet you have an interesting homelife


"Interesting" would be one way to put it... lol

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posted April 18, 2013 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus in my fourth house, as well as Saturn and Neptune,and the Moon not in my natal chart, but, in my moon persona chart, and i can identify with it very much so. The first sixteen years of my life were very inconsistent because mom moved my brother and i from one home to the next because she could never get along with the other people staying where ever we would stay. At home, mom would try to overpower me, trying to raise me the way she thought best and when i didn't agree with her, i would rebel by simply ignoring her demands. Other times, if mom get physical, I'd fight back, and curse and scream at her until she had enough of me. I would especially ignore here because of her contradictory rules (Neptune?) and her authoritarian approach. (Saturn?) Mom wasn't SO controlling, but, I'd have to beg her to do certain things only to have tell me "No. Because i said so." (So annoying!) then minutes later she'd be like "Ok, but you can only do "X" for an "X" amount of time." Soon I'll be 23 y.o. and I feel as though my confusing upbringing left me feeling anxious, afraid to branch out, and longing for my own identity. Nataly, my Sun, Mercury, and Chiron fall into the fourth house, Gemini.

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posted April 18, 2013 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulstress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto/Vertex/South Node in Scorpio 4th house

I experienced abuse. -_-

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posted April 18, 2013 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my uranus is in my IV house. my parents split up when i was 5. as a result, my mom had a lot of unresolved anger she would use towards me by accident. she is a virgo and is overwhelmed by stress.
my grandmother was very big in my life when i was growing up. my mom worked hard so my grandma would help take care of me when she was at work. and my grandma and i are very close, but we butt heads all the time because of her mentality "my way or the highway". i dont take kindly to those kinda mentalities.
my relationship with my father was OK. he made it clear that the reason they divorced was not because of me.
its everything you would have expected from an aries and virgo marriage. as an aries male of age, i understand where he was coming from.
yes, my home life was difficult and still is, im only 21 but i have to take care of 3 houses, yards and stuff of that nature.

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posted April 18, 2013 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ScorpioMoon and CatMote, your experiences hit the nail on the straight on the head.

My mom will not compromise with me no matter how miserable I am. I want her to change as a person but she won't. She expects me to change but doesn't feel she should change as well.

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posted April 18, 2013 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll echo a lot of what seems to have already been said: my home life has always been on the rougher side. Growing up and now.

My 4th House Uranus (along with Saturn and Neptune) is in Capricorn. My parents split up when I was really young (not even a year old). I've never met my father. My mother was really unreliable and erratic and used to dump me off with her parents for long stretches of time while she did her own thing. When I did live with her, we were constantly flitting from one place to another (Tennessee, Florida, Illinois, house, apartment, trailer, homeless shelter, etc, etc, etc).

Even though my mother wasn't really there for me in my most formative years, she always expects me to be fiercely loyal and doting...and I'm not. She's developed a complex now where she attempts to do everything for me, and when I don't want her to, she wails about how I hate her (which isn't true at all, even though she's a massive burden). This might be worsened, though, by her pre-existing mental health issues.

Every so often her entire life implodes and I end up having to pick up the pieces and put humpty dumpty back together again. Most recently, in 2011, she had a massive stroke. While she's fine in just about every way but speech, she lives with me. She totally dictates the way that I live my life (where I live, what I eat, where I work, the hours that I can work, when I can see my friends, etc). Not out of dictates, but because she's just so needy. Constantly. I'm an adult. I have a degree. I don't live in my hometown anymore. I just want to move on with my life. And I can't. Because of my mother.

I realize this makes me an awful person, but I don't even care anymore.

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posted April 18, 2013 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, nove731...

We all relate to Uranus in IV but in different ways...the household is unstable and fatherless.

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posted April 19, 2013 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's pretty much how I grew up except I don't have Uranus in the fourth house. Instead, I have a Capricorn IC with an afflicted Saturn. Maybe there's a connection between Uranus and Capricorn since Uranus is a modern planet.

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posted April 19, 2013 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CatMote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by nove731:
I'll echo a lot of what seems to have already been said: my home life has always been on the rougher side. Growing up and now.

My 4th House Uranus (along with Saturn and Neptune) is in Capricorn. My parents split up when I was really young (not even a year old). I've never met my father. My mother was really unreliable and erratic and used to dump me off with her parents for long stretches of time while she did her own thing. When I did live with her, we were constantly flitting from one place to another (Tennessee, Florida, Illinois, house, apartment, trailer, homeless shelter, etc, etc, etc).

Even though my mother wasn't really there for me in my most formative years, she always expects me to be fiercely loyal and doting...and I'm not. She's developed a complex now where she attempts to do everything for me, and when I don't want her to, she wails about how I hate her (which isn't true at all, even though she's a massive burden). This might be worsened, though, by her pre-existing mental health issues.

Every so often her entire life implodes and I end up having to pick up the pieces and put humpty dumpty back together again. Most recently, in 2011, she had a massive stroke. While she's fine in just about every way but speech, she lives with me. She totally dictates the way that I live my life (where I live, what I eat, where I work, the hours that I can work, when I can see my friends, etc). Not out of dictates, but because she's just so needy. Constantly. I'm an adult. I have a degree. I don't live in my hometown anymore. I just want to move on with my life. And I can't. Because of my mother.

I realize this makes me an awful person, but I don't even care anymore.


you arent a horrible person. i understand and feel for both of you in this situation.
im sorry if this comes off as rude, but you should both try therapy.

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Mercury Aries Jupiter in Virgo
Saturn in Aquarius Pluto in Scorpio
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posted April 20, 2013 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus sitting on my 4th House squaring Moon.
I grew up a free-thinking agnostic in a quite religious family. Never felt like I belonged, neither to my immediate environment nor to my society in general.
I've always felt more comfortable around friends than family members.
My father cheated on my Mom so many times that I lost count. I always clash with him, never quite understood him.

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posted April 20, 2013 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Goatcat- it sounds like these placements would definitely be hard for you! With Jupiter in first house, I imagine you always want to expand your enviornment as a natural personality trait while uranus in 4th making a hard square could push your disire even more. Uranus in 4th probably isn't what your libra uranus had I'm mind being that it would strive for harmony that's not being fullfilled.

I guess I just wanted to draw attention to the aspects in this regaurd, in otherwords, I can see why its afflicting you.

My sun is in my fourth (sextile uranus, Saturn, Neptune). So I can relate to having a desired (peaceful) home life and being let down. And don't even get me started what it was like living with my mother (in my twenties)! I finally moved out 9 mo ago, phew.....lol

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posted April 20, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...oh yeah my Saturn conj her sun, and Saturn conj my sun both in each others 4th house...its awful! We both want each other to change like you said. Everything I do is the "wrong way" and I feel like she has poor communication and angry management issues (very emotionally abusive and minipulate at times)....

Oops, see? I got to talking about it...

Anyways, my sympathy!

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