posted April 27, 2013 11:04 AM            

Handsdown my list are:

1)Capricorn (specifically the men)
2)Aries (especially Soldiers)
3)Pisces-one of the FEW EXCEPTIONS when Pisces ends up as one of the Powerhouses of the Zodiac-more rulers of nations are born under this sign than any other and you'll be terrified about the willpower a Pisces has when he is a Patriot. Just read up George Washington.
4)Cancer-OH YES if its a woman's placement.

Moderate
5)Taurus-1950s father afterall
6)I'm not sure but stuff I read online states Gemini is the MOST PATRIOTIC of the Air Signs.Can anyone clarify
7)Leo-Tend to be moderate but if the Leo is the Monarch of the nation, then it becomes a totally different story. Also when personal Honor is at stake will take patriotism incredibly seriously (Napoleon Bonaparte)
8)Sagittarrius-Same as Leo

UNPATRIOTIC
9)Virgo
10)Libra-Librans are PEACELOVERS not Fighters.Doomlord is an example
11)Aquarius-Unless they bellieve the nation or at least its government will solve the issues of mankind or at least care for the welfare of its citizens, Aquarius are second to the LEAST PATRIOTIC sign you can find (not that they get hated for it people still them for their humanitarian nature). If they believe the government is a UTOPIA expect a FANATIC (see Marcel Bigeard).
12)Scorpio-THE LEAST PATRIOTIC of the Signs. Unless a Phoenix or loved ones are at stake, Scorpio is the one most likely to dodge the draft. Doesn't care if labeled a traitor and takes pride in not fighting a stupid war.

Of course other placements in chart heavily affect. I notice Scorpio with Pisces Moon tend to be much more patriotic than the general description and Aquarius combined with Scorpio is a strange hybrid of both traitor, utopian, and unbreaking loyalty to loved ones they become the "silent patriot"-meaning they may seem openly unpatriotic or even aloof to the countries welfare but when war comes they are the first one to fight and they are among the MOST LOYAL citizens a nation can find. Yet they are not above bashing the government and even attacking many of the nation's institutions but they are loyal to their comrades and fight for the welfare of the people esp. the lower classes.

Capricorn with Leo create an aristocratic conservative.

posted April 27, 2013 12:01 PM            

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Originally posted by MorteImperator:
12)Scorpio-THE LEAST PATRIOTIC of the Signs. Unless a Phoenix or loved ones are at stake, Scorpio is the one most likely to dodge the draft. Doesn't care if labeled a traitor and takes pride in not fighting a stupid war.

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posted April 27, 2013 01:54 PM            

The very word "patriotism" makes me gag as well as any infantile displays of it. Bleep your American flag lapel pins. Seriously. It's a bleeping label pin. It means nothing. Same with the bleeping flag. It's just dyed nylon fabric made in China, you chumps.

I love the American people--but I do not love the concept of a "nation" and so much going on today in the name of the American people is heartbreaking for me. So much of what this nation does today is shameful and hurtful both to Americans and to people around the world. Why would I dress that up in "patriotism" and say I should be proud of it? I'm not an idiot. But this is "the Land of the Free", and plenty of people have freely chosen to be such idiots themselves.

posted April 27, 2013 10:05 PM            

And I knew some people who dodged the draft and/or hold the military suspicious because they believe the government has become unconstitutional and thus (as it's the Constitution that gives the government its legitimacy/right to exist) illegal & treasonous (granted, they're fringe, but they're still operating under patriotic ideals). IOW, they consider the US Government to be the Benedict Arnolds who betrayed the Constitution and thus gone "rogue," which can't help but bleed over into the military somewhat, though Michael New was honored for refusing to wear UN colors as ordered, and the military that court martialed him seen as un-American.

That aside, I'd have to say the Cancer men I've known have usually been very patriotic, and in the "my country right or wrong" sense. Though one did advise me against going into the military but that's because he worked as a psychologist in the US Army and after all he came across (which inspired him to become a rape crisis counselor) and knowing it's still going strong he didn't want me exposed to that. But he still likes to say things like, "Afghanistan deserved every bomb & drone we send them" (though he did think invading Iraq was stupid, but he still stands with his country, "right or wrong").

posted April 28, 2013 06:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Leocassandra:
IMO the most patriotic is Cancer (4th house, motherland).

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If we're talking about patriotic in terms of the United States--which wasn't made clear, but implied--I'm also going to go with Cancer.

My reason being, the U.S. Declaration of Independence was adopted (but not signed) on July 4, 1776 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The date alone puts the Sun in the sign of Cancer, and given the rest of the information, there's a stellium in Cancer: Mercury, Sun, Jupiter (exalted in Cancer) and Venus.

I don't know what time the Declaration was adopted, so the moon's placement could be off, but with the time set to 12 noon, that puts it in Aquarius. I'd be curious if the actual time would keep it in Aquarius, because if so, that would place the moon in a very forward thinking position, fitting--in some respects--for the U.S. (even with all of America's faults).