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RunAroundScreaming
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posted April 29, 2013 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air signs are often described as being cold, callous, thoughtless, detached, and the least nurturing. But I've found them to be some of the most dedicated, nurturing, diplomatic and thoughtfully sensitive friends. Definitely more than any of the somewhat brusque or matter of fact water/earth signs. Fire signs are brusque too, but I find even them to be more thoughtful than water/earth. Has anyone else noticed the tendency for air signs to be really thoughtful and sweet....one might even say....can i say it? can i, can i? sentimental???

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posted April 29, 2013 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Has anyone else noticed the tendency for air signs to be really thoughtful and sweet....one might even say....can i say it? can i, can i? sentimental???


Yeah that's cuz they have a way with words and know what to say. Air signs words don't run as deep for me because I don't think they're backed with much sincerity.

For example this Aquarius girl makes me laugh not because she genuinely cares about me but because she generally likes to make people happy.

But I love air signs for this.

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posted April 29, 2013 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goatcat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish I had that "detachment" air signs have. Maybe then I could enjoy making people happy without expecting anything in return. Or thinking I should only be nice to those who deserve it


I'm earth and water dominant.

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posted April 29, 2013 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RAS, you're making a beginner mistake here - if you take in consideration only the Sun Sign alone. Those with a chart mainly dominated by Air (Sun, Moon, ASC, Mercury...) - kinda fit the airy description... but if we're to have a Air Sun with Fire/Water/Earth Moon, ASC and Mercury - then that may exceed a pure water/fire/earth sign... as both his hearth and his mind - goes deep... a multidimensional experience with whom a pure sign can relate (either by feelings if we're to talk about water signs - or on a conceptual level - if we're to talk about air signs) but they find it hard to understand... truly.

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posted April 29, 2013 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7thguardian i tried rereading ur post but couldnt totally understand!

well i guess i should just say that all the air suns ive met were like this

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posted April 29, 2013 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goatcat:
I wish I had that "detachment" air signs have. Maybe then I could enjoy making people happy without expecting anything in return. Or thinking I should only be nice to those who deserve it


I'm earth and water dominant.


so true....
i feel like air people give without expecting anything. they just like to make ppl happy. thats the way it should be. other people should be like that...nice to everyone rather than being reserved and grumpy, and only nice and friendly to those who deserve it. i always thought it was my leo trying to show off, but i always try to be charming and make someone smile in real life. but a lot of times i get stuck in that kind of thinking u described!! yup. i guess it's the other half of my chart, which is water :P

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posted April 29, 2013 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with RAS.I'm air dominant.Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus in Gemini.I'm very sentimental and emotional.

But I can be detached if I have to.It's more of a defensive thing.

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posted April 29, 2013 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goatcat:
Yeah that's cuz they have a way with words and know what to say. Air signs words don't run as deep for me because I don't think they're backed with much sincerity.

For example this Aquarius girl makes me laugh not because she genuinely cares about me but because she generally likes to make people happy.

But I love air signs for this.


well it doesnt mean that they dont also like to make someone laugh who they genuinely care about.just because they like to spread joy doesnt mean theyre not deep, but i do agree that some seem pretty fickle when it comes to friends. Yet others have shown themselves to be really deep and to cling on to their friends. so i guess it depends.

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posted April 29, 2013 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemmy:
I agree with RAS.I'm air dominant.Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus in Gemini.I'm very sentimental and emotional.

But I can be detached if I have to.It's more of a defensive thing.


exxxactly. thank u for contributing!

both my gemini best friends are very emotional, but u wouldnt guess from having a conversation with them bc they seem very laid back n chill/easygoing and almost like nothing affects them. they also really take care of their friends and make sure to thank them repeatedly for stuff and to bring them back presents when they go on trips etc and are very sweet/friendly in general. one is gem sun with aries moon and gem rising, and the other is gem sun with leo moon and cap rising. Also, my other friend who is gemini sun, moon, venus and mars, and taurus rising is also rly sentimental and very sweet. he does sweet things for me all the time, and left me the longest msg on facebook for my birthday. he does act like he doesnt care sometimes...like he'll joke around and play devils advocate haha but i see it as more of just a being playful thing, he doesn't mean it in a serious way.:P

I do agree with the person who said this doesnt necessarily mean they care that much or will stick around (goatcat). yup its true. but i guess with my libra rising, i feel comfortable with their "treat everyone as nice as possible, even if u DONT like them (haha)" philosophy, even though it's pretty much two-faced.

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posted April 29, 2013 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemmy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Welcome

I just never got the whole air signs being unemotional thing.

I have a Cap ASC too.So once someone gets to know me,it's a whole other story.

I do talk to people I don't like.I just have a genuine disdain for ugliness.It makes me depressed.I hate arguing.It's easier to be nice than mean.And less stressful.

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posted April 29, 2013 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some think I'm a bit too Vulcan, though I've noticed in many (but not all) cases they're the types to try to manipulate others with emotional pleas and arguments and/or need A LOT of help & validation (like a child) to function (and are often emotional vampires if you let them latch onto you), and since I see through that they have no power over me and thus don't like me. (If they try to make me feel guilty for not mothering or agreeing with them I'll explain it matter of factly and can can destroy emotional arguments like a duck shaking off water, and since they can't get their hooks into me I frighten and/or offend them.)

I think I can also be nicer than many water signs because I'm not anywhere as likely to hold a grudge or as easy to have my feelings hurt in the first place. And I think I'm likely to be nicer than earth signs as I don't need a pragmatic reason to be kind. OTOH, I'm much more likely to relate to someone on mental terms rather than emotional ones. The emotion is there, but it takes a backseat, yet it's a mistake to think I'm unfeeling and disconnected from people. And I have to watch my humor (especially on the net and with those who don't know me well) as I can forget that others are hurt or offended a lot easier than I am, which does make problems. After enough decades of practice, however, I'm usually good about this (if you think I'm not I should point out that I could be MUCH worse than I am, I squelch most jokes & pranks that occur to me).

I've ran to catch a buggy before it hit a car, picked up tacks someone laid along a bike path, and took care of a nail sticking out at a gazebo instead of ignoring it. And that's for strangers, I helped some homeless I got to know get their own Bibles and organize a Bible study so they didn't have to worry about being unwelcome (they were surprised when it turned out I wasn't even a Christian when many Christians treated them badly). Or a neighbor who experienced some cruelty and thought she might lose her beloved cat and I dropped off groceries (especially cat & paper products as she got food stamps) with an envelope with $20 in it (for feminine products and the like, but hey if she wanted to blow it on brandy instead, that's her prerogative, the natural consequences would make her regret it soon enough). I did it in the wee hours (left by her backdoor which she left when to get in the car and let her cat out into the fenced backyard), using a wheelbarrow to carry it (I recall hoping very hard for a cop to not stop me to ask me what I was doing...), and did so anonymously both because I didn't want her to depend on me (can't do it all the time, and I do look after me and mine first before others) and also so she wouldn't be scared of the "hidden price tag" that a lot of so-called charity comes with. However, she knew it was me because she said no one else would've thought of it (and that she'd recently shared her worries of losing her cat and my dropping off a bunch of cat products was a major tip off), so she at least didn't think of me as too Vulcan.

And those I bond with find me warm (without being coddling which easily comes off as condescending to me). For example, I tend to put a lot of thought into my gifts. A water may be more inclined to get a sentimental gift and yet it's more about how the water person FEELS whereas mine shows I UNDERSTAND that person, what they want, what they value, and that I remember special times between us. And I'm even nicer to them than to strangers and acquaintances (described above).


And my BFF is an Air Sign: Gemini ASC, Aquarius Sun & Venus, and plenty of Libra in her chart, too. She's one of THE sweetest people I've ever met (though you don't want to get on her bad side because she's VERY creative in coming up with ways to dissuade her tormentors, though someone has to push her far before she pushes back). Granted, I believe it's her Pisces moon, mercury, and Mars that makes her come off this way but all the air really helps her understand people so well (she also has a bit of Scorpio, as do I). And I do think that THE most thoughtful & sweet are signs with a heavy mix of Air & Water (but not most passionate, that comes from Fire).

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posted April 29, 2013 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Londongirl8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Air signs are often described as being cold, callous, thoughtless, detached, and the least nurturing.

These descriptions are just lazy, ignorant generalisations about millions of people who happen to be born around the same time of year. I know lots of Aquarians, including my boyfriend and I'm one myself and these description bear no resemblance to the truth. However the generalisation that Aquarians are the most intelligent sign is definitely true...lol

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posted April 29, 2013 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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7thguardian i tried rereading ur post but couldnt totally understand!

well i guess i should just say that all the air suns ive met were like this



That's ok, i went a little further than i meant to - and it's just the essence - as the detailed version would be just partially related to this topic.

Short story - would be really inaccurate to judge someone based on their Sun Sign (air signs) alone. So... out of curiosity:

Where do those Air signs (the people you know) - have their Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus and Ascendant?

Air signs - are supposedly better at making other people feel good - even if they're feeling lousy inside. As they're also supposedly better at hiding their sorrow (though - that might be harder with one who's water dominant...). So yes - those descriptions (cold, callous, thoughtless, detached, and the least nurturing) are inaccurate - if we're to talk about Air Suns mixed with water/fire/earth.

My mother for example - is an Aquarius - and for most part she's the opposite of those descriptions (she's warmhearted, very compassionate and so on) - but that's because her Sun is the only Air planet from her chart Mercury in Pisces, Moon in Virgo, Venus in Aries, Mars in Cancer and so on...

On the other hand - i knew a Libra with Moon in Aquarius, Mercury in Scorpio, Venus in Libra, Mars in Virgo and so on... Now this one - was kinda close to those descriptions. Well, she had a tough life - and Aquarius Moons tend to be expressive for the surrounding environment. And mainly, that's where she was like that - in her personal life, cause in her public life - she's more of a people pleaser, as - she puts a lot of effort in to pleasing others with her art.

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Originally posted by Gemmy:
I agree with RAS.I'm air dominant.Sun,Moon,Mercury,Venus in Gemini.I'm very sentimental and emotional.

But I can be detached if I have to.It's more of a defensive thing.


I have Sun and Mars in Gemini - though... i can't do that... even if it kills me.

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These descriptions are just lazy, ignorant generalisations about millions of people who happen to be born around the same time of year. I know lots of Aquarians, including my boyfriend and I'm one myself and these description bear no resemblance to the truth. However the generalisation that Aquarians are the most intelligent sign is definitely true...lol

I don't know if you were trying to be sarcastic or not - but either way, you made my day with that line! ! HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!

That's so funny on so many levels... that whenever i stop laughing - i remember another thing and i start laughing again.

Now, don't get me wrong... as - this is not a black or white context (intelligent or unintelligent). It's just that Aquarius is in top of the list when it comes to "being stubborn (fixed sing)" If they don't come to a conclusion on their own - it's almost, if not impossible - to convince them otherwise by using conceptual notions. Some can't even see the practical side of an advice - as they deny it from start, without dabbling with it... cause hey think "they know better"... conclusions drawn from their own experience, from their own world - unable to realize that their world "is really small". Being so stubborn (that "I know better attitude") - they're prone to makestupid mistakes... and that's something they have in common with Taurus. So, you see what i mean? That being said - makes sense for you as an Aquarius to put it like that. Even if it was meant as sarcasm... to some extent - you do believe that to be true... Don't Cha?. ^^


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posted April 29, 2013 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Where do those Air signs (the people you know) - have their Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus and Ascendant?

Well I described 3 of them in my possst. the rest are very sweet too. probably the least sweet i know have an earth moon. out of the earth mooners/air sun ppl, virgo moons tend to be the sweetest though.


I agree with the person who said. Air/water mix is described as the sweetheart personality on the internet

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posted April 29, 2013 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swathi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love air in general, especially Gemini!
I get along with them so well, infact it is becoming my favorite sign!!

P.S: I am an air-void!lol..:P

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posted April 29, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I agree with the person who said. Air/water mix is described as the sweetheart personality on the internet


One earth, one fire, four in air, four in water.

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posted April 29, 2013 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well I described 3 of them in my possst. the rest are very sweet too. probably the least sweet i know have an earth moon. out of the earth mooners/air sun ppl, virgo moons tend to be the sweetest though.


I agree with the person who said. Air/water mix is described as the sweetheart personality on the internet


Well, air signs are known to be the most sociable signs of the Zodiac - of course "some of them" are sweet. But wasn't about that... but, how they'd behave in a relationship.

And yes, Air/Water mix - can be sweet. ^^

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I love air in general, especially Gemini!
I get along with them so well, infact it is becoming my favorite sign!!

P.S: I am an air-void!lol..:P


...many like Geminis at first - or in their good moments, but... never mind.

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posted April 29, 2013 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The important thing about air signs is they have to come to you. If you try the catch the wind, you'll find the results lacking...

I agree that air signs all have a sensitive and nurturing side. But it's when you try to keep them pinned to that side, or when you start looking to them for it, they'll detach and float away. They are thoughtful and nice, but if you expect it of them, they won't always fulfil - air has no obligations.

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posted April 29, 2013 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The important thing about air signs is they have to come to you. If you try the catch the wind, you'll find the results lacking...

I agree that air signs all have a sensitive and nurturing side. But it's when you try to keep them pinned to that side, or when you start looking to them for it, they'll detach and float away. They are thoughtful and nice, but if you expect it of them, they won't always fulfil - air has no obligations.


very true

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posted April 30, 2013 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Air signs are often described as being cold, callous, thoughtless, detached, and the least nurturing. But I've found them to be some of the most dedicated, nurturing, diplomatic and thoughtfully sensitive friends. Definitely more than any of the somewhat brusque or matter of fact water/earth signs. Fire signs are brusque too, but I find even them to be more thoughtful than water/earth. Has anyone else noticed the tendency for air signs to be really thoughtful and sweet....one might even say....can i say it? can i, can i? sentimental???


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posted April 30, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SpooL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Londongirl8:
These descriptions are just lazy, ignorant generalisations about millions of people who happen to be born around the same time of year. I know lots of Aquarians, including my boyfriend and I'm one myself and these description bear no resemblance to the truth. However the generalisation that Aquarians are the most intelligent sign is definitely true...lol

Your being very hypocritical to complain that everything else mentioned was a generalization and then you become biased and generalized with your statement.

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....It's just that Aquarius is in top of the list when it comes to "being stubborn (fixed sing)" If they don't come to a conclusion on their own - it's almost, if not impossible - to convince them otherwise by using conceptual notions. Some can't even see the practical side of an advice - as they deny it from start, without dabbling with it... cause hey think "they know better"... conclusions drawn from their own experience, from their own world - unable to realize that their world "is really small". Being so stubborn (that "I know better attitude") - they're prone to makestupid mistakes... and that's something they have in common with Taurus. So, you see what i mean? That being said - makes sense for you as an Aquarius to put it like that. Even if it was meant as sarcasm... to some extent - you do believe that to be true... Don't Cha?. ^^

I'm going to guess that particular user is an Aquarius/ Capricorn mix or an Aquarius with lots of earth.

They tend to be stubborn and fixed compared to the norm.

Anyway, with Gem males, if there in the right mood they can be very thoughtful but in the bad mood they can be the opposite and a complete nightmare.

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posted April 30, 2013 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The important thing about air signs is they have to come to you. If you try the catch the wind, you'll find the results lacking...

I agree that air signs all have a sensitive and nurturing side. But it's when you try to keep them pinned to that side, or when you start looking to them for it, they'll detach and float away. They are thoughtful and nice, but if you expect it of them, they won't always fulfil - air has no obligations.


I disagree , I'll explain why...

For the most part, Air energy is about mental equilibrium, whether is it Gemini, Libra or Aquarius. Air Sun's general disposition is to understand you and communicate through a fine tuned thought process. Which in turn will make them very thoughtful about your needs. Basically, if you have good understanding and connection , it does not make a difference what your pinning us to, the devotion will remain.

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posted April 30, 2013 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure Londongirl8 was just making a funny rather than being hypocritical. Note the "lol" (Laugh Out Loud).

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posted April 30, 2013 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
anyone can be thoughtful..
To me signs are becoming less important and aspects really individualize us.

I've met air dominant people with far more depth than any water signs I've known.

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posted May 01, 2013 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Air signs are the best!!!!

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