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Topic: Gay in Lindaland???
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StarryEyes Knowflake Posts: 45 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 29, 2013 04:19 PM
Hey guys. I have collected many Linda Goodman books over the years, and being a gay woman I want to pose a question. I am curious to everyone's feedback. I am Christian and I am gay. All of Linda's books all compare man/woman compatibility. Do you think there is a way to take advantage of these interpretations when there are 2 people of the same sex involved? Do they still carry the same weight? Thanks knowflakes ------------------ Sun: Leo Moon: Libra ASC: Pisces Venus: Leo Mars: Virgo IP: Logged |
AshSkye Knowflake Posts: 734 From: UK Registered: Jun 2012
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posted April 29, 2013 04:23 PM
Usually you have to go by who the dominant one is in the relationship and who the submissive one is Same in Man/Woman relationships these days, if the woman is the more dominant one, it changes the whole flow of things astrologicallyIP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1772 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 29, 2013 04:35 PM
Moving to Astrology 2.0IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3118 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 29, 2013 04:47 PM
Hello StarryEyes! Welcome to LL The only thing that is really different in straight vs gay readings is that some aspects like to Uranus will be more prominent and possibly in hard aspect in a same sex reading. This is one of the things that distinguish a same sex relationship ------------------
"For all those who believe, expect a miracle.” Linda Goodman 1925-1995 IP: Logged |
StarryEyes Knowflake Posts: 45 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 29, 2013 04:48 PM
Opps thanks littlecloud ------------------ Sun: Leo Moon: Libra ASC: Pisces Venus: Leo Mars: Virgo IP: Logged |
StarryEyes Knowflake Posts: 45 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 29, 2013 04:50 PM
Thanks AshSkye! That makes tremendous sense!! ------------------ Sun: Leo Moon: Libra ASC: Pisces Venus: Leo Mars: Virgo IP: Logged |
StarryEyes Knowflake Posts: 45 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted April 29, 2013 04:52 PM
Thank you lalalinda!! I see- that makes a lot of sense also. Thanks guys/girlies )IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 2143 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 29, 2013 04:53 PM
I think so...I'd say that it's more useful to know who is closest to a heteronormative standard and saying the other is the opposite. If that can't be done with any certainty (as if often the case, especially for women) then I personally go by who's chart is more masculine for the guy. And if even that doesn't help then just use some sense to adapt it (just as you would take into account other placements that get little to no mention at all in the description). IP: Logged |
littlecloud Moderator Posts: 1772 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted April 29, 2013 10:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarryEyes: Opps thanks littlecloud
no worries, you'd get more helpful responses here anyway. IP: Logged |
nove731 Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Washington, DC Registered: Jun 2009
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posted April 30, 2013 05:34 AM
I'm not really familiar with the specific text you're referring to, but I'm not sure I generally buy the "dominant"/"submissive" idea...Being a gay man, myself, I feel like that sort of heteronormative expectation (not every relationship has to have a "man" and a "woman") isn't really helpful, and doesn't really describe same sex relationships very well. There isn't always a more masculine partner and a more feminine partner in the relationship, and I reject the idea that there has to be.Part of the beauty of being gay is that I'm always on a level playing field with the other person...by which I mean, as much as I am free to pursue a relationship, he is equally capable. The "rules" that exist between men and women just don't exist in the same way between two men or two women. There's no expectation that the "man" has to do the pursuing and the "woman" has to be pursued (although I suppose that's somewhat outdated in the world today, anyway). Personally, I've come to feel that Mars indicates/relates the way that I pursue a guy when I'm interested and that Venus seems to be more my manner of being pursued. Likewise, I generally feel that aspects between same-sex partners generally play out in the manner described...the genders used in descriptions are usually irrelevant if you keep an open mind and look at the big picture...and in any case, more recently, I've been noticing a pattern to describe aspects as "The Mars person blahblahblah...The Moon person blahblahblah..." rather than "The man will blahblahblah...the woman will blahblahblah". ------------------ Sun -> Aries Moon -> Sagittarius Ascendant ->Virgo IP: Logged |
StarryEyes Knowflake Posts: 45 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 01, 2013 12:33 PM
Such great feedback! Thanks all IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 1983 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 01, 2013 01:38 PM
I'm bisexual and it really depends of synastry. My role changes depending on the dynamics of the relationship. I can be neutral too depending on the person.I'm not fixated on being the "masculine" or "feminine" lover. IP: Logged |
Xiiro Moderator Posts: 1547 From: San Diego CA, USA Registered: Jun 2011
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posted May 01, 2013 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by nove731: Being a gay man, myself, I feel like that sort of heteronormative expectation (not every relationship has to have a "man" and a "woman") isn't really helpful, and doesn't really describe same sex relationships very well. There isn't always a more masculine partner and a more feminine partner in the relationship, and I reject the idea that there has to be.Part of the beauty of being gay is that I'm always on a level playing field with the other person...by which I mean, as much as I am free to pursue a relationship, he is equally capable. The "rules" that exist between men and women just don't exist in the same way between two men or two women. There's no expectation that the "man" has to do the pursuing and the "woman" has to be pursued (although I suppose that's somewhat outdated in the world today, anyway). Personally, I've come to feel that Mars indicates/relates the way that I pursue a guy when I'm interested and that Venus seems to be more my manner of being pursued. Likewise, I generally feel that aspects between same-sex partners generally play out in the manner described...the genders used in descriptions are usually irrelevant if you keep an open mind and look at the big picture...and in any case, more recently, I've been noticing a pattern to describe aspects as "The Mars person blahblahblah...The Moon person blahblahblah..." rather than "The man will blahblahblah...the woman will blahblahblah".
I tend to agree, I feel sexual/social gender is slowly becoming less useful and we are free to explore roles beyond the traditional Sun/Moon, Mars/Venus, Male/Female templates. I have a Leo friend who is dating and Aries guy. He is definitely the "Mars/Sun Person" in the relationship, but she is the "Saturn Person" in the relationship, without a doubt. Their relationship generally consists of him running around like a little kid on fire, while she endures, grounds, and learns skillful ways to reign him in (as the need arises). Because she has always been obsessed with work, the arrangement does it for her. He is the perfect ball of string for her to bat around and he loves all the attention she invests. I especially agree that Mars indicates how I pursue and Venus relates well with how I enjoy being pursued. In my own relationships (once everything is said and done), I tend to take on a Jupiter role. Because of this, traditional rules for synastry have never really applied to my relationships. IP: Logged |
virgolotus Moderator Posts: 1177 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 01, 2013 05:51 PM
In synastry I just look at the personal planets and positions, aspects, etc like a normal hetero relationship and it works for me. Just look at Venus and Mars for both people... after all, everyone has both a masculine and feminine side... even straight people, believe it or not. IP: Logged |