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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 01, 2013 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to try to keep this as short as possible. I posted on dxpnet as well but I dont like the vibes of that site and always liked lindaland better.

Ok here it goes. I was in a relationship with a Libra woman 33 years of age. Im a cancer male 24. We dated for a year. then as of mid november 2012 she left state to pursue her career further. she had originally planned on moving a year prior and a couple of weeks before she left we started talking and began our relationship thus prompting her to stay longer. when she finally left it was hard, she cried alot.

for financial and other reasons I did not travel with her. It was decided I would eventually come see her and we would go from there. in december 2012 we started to drift abit a couple days would go by of not contacting eachother. I made the mistake of losing faith and feeling abandoned and I actively searched for a random sex partner online. although I only attempted this for a few days and NEVER cheated. she managed to get in my email and see the sent messages.


She cut of contact with me completely. I pleaded with her to explain to me what was happening she was completely ignoring me. I sent her texts everyday even though she was ignoring me. I begged her for answers, anything. she gave nothing and eventually blocked my number and my facebook. at the same time she got with an ex bf out of spite and to get back at me. I found this out and sent her one last message to her voicemail and facebook from a different account. this was right before new years. it was very hard on me.

fast forward in time here we are today. I have not tried contacting her and have done the best to move on with my life. although she still pops up in my mind from time to time. the other night I find out by chance she has unblocked me on Facebook. I click her profile to make sure and she has. and it doesnt appear she is with the guy anymore she changed the profile and cover photo she had of her and him together.

this has forced her back into my mind and Im constantly wondering why she unblocked me so soon. I'm not sure what I feel at this time. I just dont want to be hurt. but I want to speak with her so badly.. but idk how she feels. and I dont want to reach out to her only to be ignored again I fear that I still love this girl. I must say out of all the girls Ive been with I felt the most affinity with her. it was my longest relationship ever at only a year and it would have gone longer if not the move..

can someone please advise this cancer man on what to do. Im so afraid. I want to reach out to her this weekend and just say "hey" nothing pressing or bombard her with questions and feelings like I did when she started ignoring me back in december. I feel she must be open to light communication.. why else would she unblock me? I do have that doubt though. that fear she will only ignore me or worse tell me for good she has no feelings for me

please if any of you women could give me insight I would greatly appreciate this. I know what your thinking. I deserve this I tried cheating on her but I never did and havent been with another woman since her. and even though she was so cold to me and has been with another man. I still feel for her <3


I didnt check our charts until we were broken up.. and I was surprised. we have alot of Pluto going on.

my Pluto conjunct her Venus
her Pluto trine my venus
my Pluto conjunct her Mercury
her Pluto square my Mercury
My Pluto square her Mars
Her Pluto conjunct my Moon

ME. 07/21/1988 syracuse NY 10:12 am

HER 10/17/1979 trumansburg NY (unknown)


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auntdahlia
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posted May 01, 2013 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for auntdahlia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If anything,she wants closure.Apologize to her and move on,thats what I think will be best for the two of you,honestly.
You do realise how much what she saw must've affected her trust in people right?

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auntdahlia
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posted May 01, 2013 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for auntdahlia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And you need to stop victimising yourself here and please see the situation for what it really is-''....even though she was really cold to me and was with another man...''
You were the one who did the damage here.Hiding the truth from yourself will one work you more misery.

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KarkaQueen
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posted May 01, 2013 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First of all, you looked for other women and free sex just because you felt apart for a few DAYS.. not even years or at least several months.

She is a Venus in Scorpio w/ Moon in Virgo, you have Moon in Libra and Venus in Gemini.. you are more flakey and can detach love from sex easier than her.. She takes relationships very seriously and you just played with her heart. She has a good reason never to trust you ever, if she does get back with you it's to sabotage you and hurt you like you hurt her, but more subtle and longer. Never never mess with a woman who has strong female signs in their chart.


89 Conjunction Venus - Pluto

Positive aspect: Great passionate affair, most certainly not lasting but pleasant to experience, whatever about the future.

-73 Square Venus - Saturn

Negative aspect: Unfavorable union, as it will be very difficult for a Venus to put up with a Saturn who is too austere, cold, hides their feelings and puts Venus ill-at-ease.

-70 Opposition Venus - Neptune

Negative aspect: The attraction is certainly there, but the relationship will only last a short time. Venus misunderstands the other and will, without a doubt, be the only one who really is in love. Neptune will be unfaithful.

62 Trine Venus - Pluto

Positive aspect: Great passionate affair, most certainly not lasting but pleasant to experience, whatever about the future.

62 Sextile Venus - Neptune

Positive aspect: Favorable union, they have the same artistic tastes in common, their life will sometimes be full of fantasy.

^ It shows.

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KarkaQueen
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posted May 01, 2013 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 01, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 01, 2013 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well I dont expect you to see my side. I probably have failed to portray this relationship accurately. I feel we were both victims. but I can take the majority of the blame for not being more open with her out of fear. But I would like to say she never trusted me. she has trust issues. she was checking my facebook messages after only 2 months. but our relationship was never strained and our compatibility always felt strong. also, I fell apart for weeks and I only sent those messages out within the course of a few days and then stopped and didnt pursue any replys. it wasnt right. but it also wasnt right for her to act rashly completely ignore me and get with an ex. i never would have expected a woman of her age to act this way. regardless I still plan on reaching out to her Im just not sure what to say. I just need to know how she feels and possibly try to get answers i have been long searching for..

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hikoro
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posted May 01, 2013 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hikoro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seeing Stars 7.21:
well I dont expect you to see my side. I probably have failed to portray this relationship accurately. I feel we were both victims. but I can take the majority of the blame for not being more open with her out of fear. But I would like to say she never trusted me. she has trust issues. she was checking my facebook messages after only 2 months. but our relationship was never strained and our compatibility always felt strong. also, I fell apart for weeks and I only sent those messages out within the course of a few days and then stopped and didnt pursue any replys. it wasnt right. but it also wasnt right for her to act rashly completely ignore me and get with an ex. i never would have expected a woman of her age to act this way. regardless I still plan on reaching out to her Im just not sure what to say. I just need to know how she feels and possibly try to get answers i have been long searching for..

meh....
you sound like you're backpedaling now...
i mean, why do you even want to reach out to her? come again?

read what you wrote:

"also, I fell apart for weeks and I only sent those messages out within the course of a few days and then stopped and didnt pursue any replys. it wasnt right. but it also wasnt right for her to act rashly completely ignore me and get with an ex. i never would have expected a woman of her age to act this way. "

ouch!
excuses....excuses....
you cant even own up to your mistakes without throwing her under the bus...
you should let her go.
i honestly dont think you're into her as much as you claim.
seriously, i think your EGO is hurt more than anything else.

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charlie
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posted May 01, 2013 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought you let her go and found another woman....guess not.

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Kerosene
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posted May 01, 2013 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just move on..
There will always be trust issues.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 01, 2013 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol.. ok forget it. I obviously made another mistake posting on here.

moral of the story. Ive owned all my mistakes. neither one of us is perfect. the biggest factor of this breakup was the fact that we both assume things without being clear with eachother.. which she agreed was a problem before the breakup. Im not throwing her under the bus Im just alluding to the fact that I was very hurt when she cut me off and got with someone else, yet I still feel for her. I dont want to make this about faults or anything I was simply giving a back story. I just wanted advice on how best to reach out to her now that she has decided to unblock me.

I did my best to move on and let go for five months and it was unbelieveably hard. but here I am today finding out by chance she has unblocked me and like that my mind is back on her, so I guess I never did really let go. At the least I just want closure I think we both need it. Our relationship went from loving to hate/hurt in a day without any exchange of words. I dont want to bombard her with feelings or any of this complicated stuff I just want to see how she is doing and talk about our lives and catch up.


If you have any suggestions on how to approach this situation in order to just get a reply out of her. maybe give it more time? wait for her? what and/or how to say please feel free. Otherwise please keep your comments to yourself. Im not saying Im definetley still in love with her I just want to talk and explore and see whats there. if theres not I will move on.. thank you

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starmoon
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posted May 01, 2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just astrologically (and very generally) a cancer = very clingy and usually have a hard time letting go of the past/relationships/break-ups, etc. they have a tendency to want to hold on to things long after the time has come to let them go - not just w/relationships, but everything in their lives/history. generally, a libra = happy, flirty, and willing to move on when a relationship ends. i'm a libra female and dated a cancer man for many years. I 'played' with him often (during the relationship and after the breakup) because emotions are something you can play with when it comes to a cancer person. libra women know this (because we've less emotionally-driven). if it's been five months I would bet that she's moved on and perhaps feels safe now that you WON'T contact her again, so she unblocked you, changed photos, etc. if there is a lot of pluto (are you pluto??) you might be obsessing over her/the relationship/break-up for that reason. if you post a synastry chart it would help others on this site to see the dynamics of the relationship and if she might welcome contact from you again.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 01, 2013 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by starmoon:
generally, a libra = happy, flirty, and willing to move on when a relationship ends. i'm a libra female and dated a cancer man for many years. I 'played' with him often (during the relationship and after the breakup) because emotions are something you can play with when it comes to a cancer person. libra women know this (because we've less emotionally-driven).

I beg to differ. did her emotions not drive her to put her career on hold just to be with me? they did. and out of the two of us she was the more affectionate and emotional one.


here is the chart. her birthtime is unknown. but if it was my guess I see strong factors to indicate she may have a Cancer ASC which would make our big three all the same.

Im not saying I want her to fall back in love with me.. I just want to talk with her and like casual friends why would she unblock me if she wasnt open to that? tell me how that makes logical sense. Oh I dont ever plan on talking to this person again but here I'll just unblock them anyway and make my profile public so they can see everything I do. Not..

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posted May 02, 2013 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for psytaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you should talk face to face. Messages on line and likes on facebook are cutesy, but I feel they're also trivial and meaningless for a Pluto-Mercury DW and Water Mercury. Now, I'm not saying you should show up on her doorstep all of sudden or something creepy like that, but you guys need contact and messages don't usually provide much of that in my experience. So start slowly but build it towards something a little bit more important (phone calls for example).
Remember it's your move, not hers. She already unblocked you for whatever reason so tread carefully.

Also leaving aside the legal/moral issue of hacking into someone's account, I would be wary of this:

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in december 2012 we started to drift abit a couple days would go by of not contacting eachother.

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she managed to get in my email and see the sent messages.

The timing seems fishy to me and I kinda suspect she was testing you somehow.

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neilthecellist
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posted May 02, 2013 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neilthecellist     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear God, I'm going to put this bluntly, and this is the Capricorn stellium I have in the first house that demands progress.

You're dwelling.

And when people offer you solutions, you back pedal and force out any pitiful excuse you can think of to continue feeling sorry for yourself so you can feel like something is genuine. I'm sorry, (actually, I'm not), but get over it. Yes, I get that it isn't easy. I just went through Uranus square my Jupiter in the 7th house. The natal Jupiter opposed my natal Capricorn stellium in the first.

It was rough, but making excuses and then telling off the community that you've made a mistake coming here implies you don't value, or refuse to value the validity and accuracy of the community's desire to help YOU is NOT the effective thing to do.

Do you feel better, making yourself feel sorry? If you do, then you shouldn't be asking for help, but grieving over this on your own.

Having re-read your opening post and then reading your subsequent follow ups I can only shake my head in disappointment at you.

You screwed up. Get over it.

If you want honest help, go look at your chart. Mars square Uranus, Mercury oppose Uranus retrograde... Tell us the truth first. She got into your email after you two broke it off... I am having a hard time believing this.

Your ego could also use some development if you're just going to throw her under the bus that fast. Oh, and on top of this, you feel bad? You're kidding, right?

Finally, for a Virgo rising, you don't seem like you're valuing people's rather detailed and potentially accurate help.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 02, 2013 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree. but sadly the face to face will not be possible at the moment shes quite a ways away. when she first stopped talking to me that is what I wanted to do. but I do not want to force such a confrontation on a libra. I so very hope I can get her on the phone so she can here the sincerity in my voice.


what do you mean when you say I should be wary of this?? she is not good with computers. I beleieve she had her friend who works in I.T. and is a wiz with computers hack my email account or all of them. because it showed my account was being logged in from random locations not anywhere near where I live. the official way it happened was we were sending eachother texts saying I love you and sending eachother pictures. and then in the beginning of december we were texting eachother fine. for whatever reason I didnt text her back for over a day it was the 5th and we were texting but it was all simple banal everyday convo no I love yous and short answers until 6th. then two days went by and she texted me "hope your doing good" I was mad because of the way the text sounded so i just said "thank you" she replies "lol" that was the 8th. im mad so I dont text her at all (like an idiot assuming instead of just contacting her) a week and a half go by and then I check on her FB and see she had posted something earlier during the week saying something about how things can go completely horrible and then turn right back around. and the guy she had gotten with had commented on it. thats when I got worried and started trying to contact her and she ignored me compltely. I try to call her phone repeatedly and then she sends me one last text saying "if you dont stop calling Im changing my number. Bye"

and that is the last form of contact I had with her. yes I continued to send her messages from the 19th - 26th. everyday casual things and reminding her I loved her and pleading with her for answers. she didnt reply once. after that I discovered she was with the guy. completely broken I sent her one last voicemail explaining things and wishing her well. by using a different phone cause she had mine blocked.

sorry for all that. and thank you psytaurus!

p.s.- I wanted to mention when we were still txting and telling eachother we loved eachother. I awoke one morning and told her I had a dream that I described as "had a crazy dream with you, some dramatic end of the world life and death stuff. we survived but had to find eachother, Love you"

I just thought that was ironic. I pay close attention to my dreams but I forgot about this one. I have had dreams before that were premonition like. not exactly but the lines could def. be drawn symbolically Ive only had two like this. anyways Im not going to think to much into it.

Thanks again!

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 02, 2013 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not have merucry opposite uranus! and Im sorry if im backpedaling. my emotions are in a ******* blender right now. yes I have feelings of love and hate. but ultimately when I get myself together I only have love for her. we are both victims and we are both the problem but yes it is ultimately me this was never ment to happen like this.

and what am I not telling you? yes this story goes much deeper.. what do you want to hear?

that I trully believe I was falsely led by signs from an entity that I thought was "God" in the form of a song I heard and then a clear symbol in the sky I seen right after?? essentially telling me I was not to go to California with her.. that it completely broke me apart in that moment and I never told her the full of it.

sounds pretty fu<kin crazy right? yea tell me about it.. so if you dont mind I'll just stick to the "normal" stuff.

and yes Im telling you off because ultimately I dont want any negativity I just want to be reassured like any cancer would so he feels better about things he already plans on doing.. so Im sorry if I offended anybody.. but regardless of what you say Im going to believe what I want because Im the only one here who knows the whole story. and can judge the situation the best. but again thank you for the time your taking to type up your replies in an effort to help me or talk sense into me.

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KarkaQueen
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posted May 02, 2013 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe him on that. WOMEN with Scorpio in their charts are sneaky little wretches. Sometimes the Taurus polarity can take those traits, too.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted May 02, 2013 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had another dream with her last night. I've had more dreams with her then any other persons combined. I think the number is around 10 in total.

I remember little of my dreams. I remember we were together on a street in my current town. it was during winter. Local a$$holes were throwing fire crackers at us and trying to torment us. we had to get somewhere safe I saw her cat we thought it had been killed but then it opened its eyes so I picked it up and we grabbed our coats and started walking together. I suggested we go certain places for some reason boston.. she said something about an ex bf there I think. there was a sense she wasnt over him or something like that. I told her to call him she did he picked up and said something to her she then hung up the phone and laughed and we walked into a nie house on the street. the atmosphere became more relaxed and comfortable. before the dream could continue I woke up. I dont understand parts of the dream alot of it is very foggy. but I clearly remember us being in danger and then finally the end part where we were safe.

I noticed I have two upcoming transits that might help me with reaching out to her. I would like opinions on which is the better transit to do so. starting from tomorrow until the 12th I have Jupiter conjunct Venus
and then from the 21st May til the 1st June I have Jupiter trine Moon. any opinions on the better transit for my situation???

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