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shylioness07
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posted May 02, 2013 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone, my question is directed at any experts dealing with Composite and Synastry. I share a love stellium with this guy and I have seen throughout the forum that love stellium sometimes equate to true love. If this is true will your feelings ever changed for that person. I mean astrologically speaking can your relationship with that person go from true love to either one of you not having feelings for another. I can post synastry and composite if anyone who to take a look and offer their insight. Him and I have a lot of 12th synastry as well.

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posted May 03, 2013 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, by saying true love, it means in and of itself that it cannot fade, because love never fades!

No your feelings for each other wouldn't ever fade. The description of composite sun conjunct venus itself says you could never turn against each other, except in extreme circumstances. Also, the description says it is unconditional. So in what circumstance would the feelings fade. If the person became poor? if they gained weight? If they lost their sense of humor? If they became annoying and demanding? Since, it's unconditional, you would still love them even when they are being all those things.

It is when you find that your feelings for someone faded that you realize it was never true love (never happened to me with a love stellium, but has plenty of times when the love stellium or sun conjunct venus wasn't there) because true love is unconditional.

Also, I'd say be careful if you're just friends with a guy and you have a love stellium with them. There will probably be a lot of affection and cuddling even though it's platonic. And with time, you would probably start to like each other as more than friends, because love is love.

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posted May 03, 2013 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jjj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting...
just checked... I had an applying 1 degree orb between composite sun and venus with my ex husband, but I never really loved him... with another guy with whom I got quickly together, but didnt really love him there was a separating 5 degree orb... with a man I loved very much and unconditionally there was no Sun-Venus aspect in composite. He didnt love me and nothing developed.

And with someone I love unconditionally right now there is a separating 8 degree orb between our composite Aqua Sun and Venus... does so large an orb count? And yes, we were friends first before feelings appeared.

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posted May 03, 2013 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ RAS that's exactly what happened we started developing feelings for one another. He is not to sure of his birth time because his mother is getting older and he think she may be off a little bit. Even when I use the unknown time which we all know is 12noon. Him and I still share a love stellium and I notice that even with and without using birth time out chart is has everything clustered to one area of the chart. What I don't understand since a love stellium equates to unconditional love. Why doesn't him and I talk anymore? I mean Miss him terribly but he hasn't attempted to contact me once. That's why I ask if a person feelings can change. I know he has a lot going on in his personal life as well and this maybe the reason why he doesn't call. It was crazy, we use to tell each other I love you and I never knew why we did it. I just felt so natural. Does having a love stellium mean you have found your soulmate?

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posted May 03, 2013 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We also have a lot of 12 house synastry using his birth time and not using his birth time. Is it possible that the 12 house synastry is causing us problems

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posted May 03, 2013 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jjj:
Interesting...
just checked... I had an applying 1 degree orb between composite sun and venus with my ex husband, but I never really loved him... with another guy with whom I got quickly together, but didnt really love him there was a separating 5 degree orb... with a man I loved very much and unconditionally there was no Sun-Venus aspect in composite. He didnt love me and nothing developed.

And with someone I love unconditionally right now there is a separating 8 degree orb between our composite Aqua Sun and Venus... does so large an orb count? And yes, we were friends first before feelings appeared.


Composite sun-venus usually doesnt cut it by itself unless there's pluto involved. (The love stellium is stronger than just sun-venus by itself) With no pluto,
comp sun-venus gives a slight appreciation for one another, an enjoyment of each other's company somewhat, but that's it. It depends, some can feel stronger than others depending on how good the rest of the composite is. Also, if you have an afflicted sun or venus in composite and sun conj venus that's really going to block feeling all that fond about each other.

But a love stellium feels great even without any pluto. Even an afflicted love stellium feels great! As long as mars isnt heavily afflicted (underlying tension)

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posted May 03, 2013 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Our love stellium is conjuct mars and widely conjuct Pluto as well

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posted May 03, 2013 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shylioness07:
@ RAS that's exactly what happened we started developing feelings for one another. He is not to sure of his birth time because his mother is getting older and he think she may be off a little bit. Even when I use the unknown time which we all know is 12noon. Him and I still share a love stellium and I notice that even with and without using birth time out chart is has everything clustered to one area of the chart. What I don't understand since a love stellium equates to unconditional love. Why doesn't him and I talk anymore? I mean Miss him terribly but he hasn't attempted to contact me once. That's why I ask if a person feelings can change. I know he has a lot going on in his personal life as well and this maybe the reason why he doesn't call. It was crazy, we use to tell each other I love you and I never knew why we did it. I just felt so natural. Does having a love stellium mean you have found your soulmate?

Yeah ive exchanged i love yous a ton to almost everyone ive had the love stellium with, even platonic male AND female friends. A love stellium can feel as if uve found ur soulmate. That person will always have ur back and be by ur side if and when you need to reach out to them. But there'll be other factors that would make them being a soulmate more true in some cases over others.

Why dontcha you post the composite?

Edit: Just read your second post about ur love stellium being conjunct mars and widely conjunct pluto. Oh yes, dear Id say that is a soulmate right there, especially since pluto is conjunct it. The more planets conjunct a love stellium the better (as long as its not uranus or saturn) and pluto added to it is what makes it legit soulmates. You wouldve def fallen right away if pluto were more tightly conjunct it. Ive experienced a love stellium conjunct pluto just once, and it was lifechanging.
Anyway, you said uve tried reaching out to him and he doesnt respond? Maybe you did something to upset him! I highly suggest insisting and to keep contacting him and asking him if you did anything to upset him, because other people will reject you, but bc u and he have a love stellium he wont reject you if u keep insisting. You probably did something to annoy him or hurt him. But if u insist he will never tell you "no go away i dont want to talk to you." The love stellium always gives an urge to harmonize and forgive.

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posted May 03, 2013 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras I will post the composite later today

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posted May 03, 2013 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ RAS

Here is composite/Synastry with unknown time

12 noon Synastry

12 noon Composite

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posted May 04, 2013 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah both are nice. Synastry is nice too. I recommend doing the compatibility for lovers report from grupovenus.com

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posted May 04, 2013 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for foxxyxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
could a love stellium be with sun, merc, venus all landed in the same house in synastry or do they all have to be conjunct/trine/sextile aspect to eachother?

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posted May 04, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by foxxyxo:
could a love stellium be with sun, merc, venus all landed in the same house in synastry or do they all have to be conjunct/trine/sextile aspect to eachother?

Have to be aspecting each other. I count conjunctions to luminaries (sun and moon) up to an 8 degree orb

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posted May 04, 2013 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras it's crazy how even without using his birth time, we still share a love stellium, it's us meeting was meant to be. Astrogically speaking, do you see this as a potential soulmate connection? What are some problems aspects that can arise for us? I'm assuming his Uranus is conjuct something of mine that would equate to why we are not speaking. I say this because Uranus loves their freedom and space, they like to play but they don't want comittment.

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posted May 04, 2013 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grupovenus using birth time

Spc1's Sun in Libra and Me's Sun in Virgo

Spc1's Moon in Saggitarius and Me's Moon in Aries

Mars Mutually Aspects Pluto

Your ability to work together with intense zeal and sense of mission is quite extraordinary. Bonding is very intense and you become very deeply and intimately involved with each other, so this relationship may well lead to marriage. Power struggles are very possible though; if you come to cross-purposes, one of you may try to dominate and manipulate the other. Your ego drives, competitiveness, and personal ambitions can get in the way of a truly cooperative, harmonious union.


Spc1's Sun conjunct Me's Mercury orb 2 34'

Spc1's Moon conjunct Me's Saturn orb 1 0'
Spc1's Mercury conjunct Me's Venus orb 1 18'
Spc1's Mars conjunct Me's Pluto orb 0 13'

Spc1's Pluto conjunct Me's Mars orb 1 14'

Spc1's Moon square Me's Sun orb 2 30'

Spc1's Moon trine Me's Moon orb 2 17'


Spc1's Moon square Me's Mars orb 2 33'

Spc1's Mercury square Me's Uranus orb 0 17'
Spc1's Venus square Me's Neptune orb 2 20'

Spc1's Sun in Me's 11 house
Me's Sun in Spc1's 12 house
Spc1's Moon in Me's 2 house
Me's Moon in Spc1's 6 house
Spc1's Mercury in Me's 11 house
Me's Mercury in Spc1's 12 house
Spc1's Venus in Me's 11 house
Me's Venus in Spc1's 12 house
Spc1's Mars in Me's 1 house
Me's Mars in Spc1's 11 house
Spc1's Jupiter in Me's 6 house
Me's Jupiter in Spc1's 7 house
Spc1's Saturn in Me's 4 house
Me's Saturn in Spc1's 2 house
Spc1's Uranus in Me's 10 house
Me's Uranus in Spc1's 3 house
Spc1's Neptune in Me's 1 house
Me's Neptune in Spc1's 3 house
Spc1's Pluto in Me's 11 house
Me's Pluto in Spc1's 1 house
Spc1's Sun square Me's Neptune orb 4 31'
Spc1's Venus opposition Me's Moon orb 4 1'
Spc1's Venus conjunct Me's Mercury orb 4 17'
Spc1's Mars sextile Me's Mars orb 3 10'
Spc1's Mars sextile Me's Neptune orb 2 54'
Spc1's Jupiter conjunct Me's Moon orb 4 39'
Spc1's Saturn sextile Me's Saturn orb 2 9'
Spc1's Uranus conjunct Me's Mars orb 4 5'
Spc1's Neptune sextile Me's Sun orb 2 34'
Spc1's Neptune sextile Me's Mars orb 2 29'
Spc1's Pluto conjunct Me's Sun orb 3 49'
Spc1's Mars conjunct Me's Ascendant orb 4 7'
Spc1's Uranus sextile Me's Ascendant orb 3 12'
Spc1's Ascendant opposition Me's Moon orb 3 40'
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posted May 04, 2013 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grupovenus using 12noon birth time

Spc's Sun in Libra and Me's Sun in Virgo

Spc's Moon in Saggitarius and Me's Moon in Aries

Mars Mutually Aspects Pluto
Spc's Sun conjunct Me's Mercury orb 2
Spc's Moon conjunct Me's Saturn orb 1
Spc's Mercury conjunct Me's Venus orb 1 9'

Spc's Mars conjunct Me's Pluto orb 0 22'


Spc's Pluto conjunct Me's Mars orb 1
Spc's Moon square Me's Sun orb 0 1'
Spc's Mercury square Me's Uranus orb 0 26'
Spc's Venus square Me's Neptune orb 2 35'
Spc's Sun in Me's 11 house
Me's Sun in Spc's 9 house
Spc's Moon in Me's 2 house
Me's Moon in Spc's 4 house
Spc's Mercury in Me's 11 house
Me's Mercury in Spc's 10 house
Spc's Venus in Me's 11 house
Me's Venus in Spc's 9 house
Spc's Mars in Me's 1 house
Me's Mars in Spc's 9 house
Spc's Jupiter in Me's 6 house
Me's Jupiter in Spc's 4 house
Spc's Saturn in Me's 4 house
Me's Saturn in Spc's 12 house
Spc's Uranus in Me's 10 house
Me's Uranus in Spc's 12 house
Spc's Neptune in Me's 1 house and
Me's Neptune in Spc's 1 house
Spc's Pluto in Me's 11 house and
Me's Pluto in Spc's 11 house
Spc's Sun square Me's Neptune orb 4 19'
Spc's Moon trine Me's Moon orb 4 45'
Spc's Moon square Me's Venus orb 4 45'
Spc's Venus opposition Me's Moon orb 3 45'
Spc's Venus conjunct Me's Mercury orb 4 33'
Spc's Mars sextile Me's Mars orb 3 1'
Spc's Mars sextile Me's Neptune orb 3 3'
Spc's Jupiter conjunct Me's Moon orb 4 38'
Spc's Saturn sextile Me's Saturn orb 2 8'
Spc's Uranus conjunct Me's Mars orb 4 4'
Spc's Neptune sextile Me's Sun orb 2 33'
Spc's Neptune sextile Me's Mars orb 2 30'
Spc's Pluto conjunct Me's Sun orb 3 49'
Spc's Mars conjunct Me's Ascendant orb 4 16'
Spc's Uranus sextile Me's Ascendant orb 3 13'
Spc's Ascendant square Me's Mercury orb 4 1'
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posted May 04, 2013 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loe stelliums dont change with birth time
And they are pretty common, though unafflicted ones re somewhat more rare.

Also this one feels special because composite moon trine pluto is a powerful aspect. Read about it in my most important aspects link in my signature

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posted May 04, 2013 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras what do mean by unafflicted ones are rare? How is our love stellium unafflicted?

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posted May 04, 2013 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras what do mean by unafflicted ones are rare? How is our love stellium unafflicted?

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posted May 04, 2013 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Ras what do mean by unafflicted ones are rare? How is our love stellium unafflicted?

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posted May 04, 2013 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shylioness07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite moon trine Pluto sounds like a binding aspect

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posted May 05, 2013 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Afflicted would be like saturn uranus conj stellium or saturn mars uranus or neptune neg aspect the stellium

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I don't know that I agree that a love stellium automatically means two people will even like each other much less love each other - or if they do, that it'll be forever.

And I know there has to be plenty of couples that don't have the stellium and love each other very much anyway. I just don't agree with the stating as this as absolute rule and fact because nothing in life is that simple, especially two individuals and the way they relate to each other.

Besides I've had the love stellium in composite with someone and sun-venus aspects going both ways with them in synastry and right now we aren't even speaking. The feelings can go away or go bad - even VERY bad - between a "love stellium" couple just like any other couple. Sorry.

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Would Sun conjunct moon, mercury, and venus equal platonic love in a composite chart?

Pluto is not making any aspects.

Mars is inconjunct Sun and Moon and biquintile Mercury and Venus.

Uranus is sextile all four.

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Originally posted by bridgetostars23:
Would Sun conjunct moon, mercury, and venus equal platonic love in a composite chart?

Pluto is not making any aspects.

Mars is inconjunct Sun and Moon and biquintile Mercury and Venus.

Uranus is sextile all four.


please post the chart.

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