posted May 06, 2013 08:05 AM              

Pisces has A LOT of its share.

Three of the most vicious Nazis (and in fact more responsible for the Holocaust than Hitler actually was).
http://www.archiedunlop.com/2011/05/03/osama-bin-laden-%E2%80%93-death-of-a-pisces/

John Wayne Gacy ring a bell?

More Pisces in prison than any other sign.
http://zodiaczodiac.com/pisces.php
http://thenakedlistener.wordpress.com/2013/01/20/blogzodiac3/

This means a lot to me. When I was first getting into Astrology all the negatives stated about Pisces were spot-on but I was really wondering the missing gap why I was so violent. As I researched I learned that Pisces symbol is two fish for a reason, one extreme success to heavens the other going the other path into extreme criminal personality.On lower levels of this type of Pisces drugs, on more extreme levels mass killers. So it made bit more sense.

But I wasn't satisfied with the answer because I haven't actually murdered anyone in my life so far nor have I taken drugs. Even during my times of escapism, I never dared wanted to try illegal drugs and in fact scoff down on those who did. To add on, even when compared to these criminals, my pattern of sociopathy did not match them at all. Its a long story that I won't post for now.

So when I learned I had Scorpio Ascendant, the basic description at Astrologycom.com that pops up after putting in birth info really chilled me and made things so clear for me. The description of the negatives for Scorpio Ascendant was far more me than the extremes of negative Pisces.

So I began to research Scorpio Ascendant as well as the Scorpio Sign in general and realized indeed I am more Scorpio in negative traits than I am Pisces though the Pisces influence CANNOT be denied.

Even though its not on the same scale as Pisces, the negative Scorpio is PRETTY VIOLENT and Self-Centered. I notice Scorpios tend to be far more openly violent than Pisces;even the extreme negative Pisces that does mass killing tends to be rather clandestine about it. I know I'm not making any sense because of course anyone who is a criminal is obviously clandestine.

But what I mean is that the negative Scorpio has the pattern of being openly violent at least to the point their victim knows they are bullying them. Also the negative Scorpio seems to really enjoy fighting even the kind where they get very hurt like a bar fight(of course this is also true for the Middle stage Scorpio and even the evolved Scorpio-I can't think of another sign where at all stages enjoy fighting for its sake aside from Aries).

When I learned I was a Scorpio-Aquarius Dominant it only makes even more sense why I enjoyed very violent hobbies like military history,marksmanship, and fighting sports in my younger years (though I have to admit the Piscean traits in me such as laziness and fear of pain prevented me from going far enough into any of them to the pain I get hurt and at best I dabbled in the safe borders of those hobby, more like Aquari in which I read a lot about said hobbies).

Both Signs are extreme when they go the Evil Side but take very different approaches from how they commit evil. Pisces is non-confrontational when committing acts while Scorpio is a violent combat maniac. Not always do they fit these molds as different levels on either extreme paths bring different extents both signs are willing to go. But thats the general observation I learned reading online.

So I was both an Unevolved Pisces and Unevolved Scorpio and can empathize with the negativity.

Has anyone read similar thing about Scorpio and Pisces being in the extremes when they are unevolved? I will honestly say no other signs in the zodiac are so extreme when they are in the polarities of either moral spectrum.

I know the background a person was raised in affects heavily how crooked they are as do life experiences and all signs also have their extreme criminals. But no other signs have such a disproportionate number of extremes as Pisces and Scorpio does except perhaps Gemini (but Gemini tends to be more on crimes involving fraud and deceit than violent ones like murder).

posted May 06, 2013 05:04 PM              

But yeah of course the shadow side of Scorpio is powerplays and trying to dominate and control others, and vengeful behavior, pathological jealousy, that sort of thing.

The shadow side of Pisces can be dishonesty and issues with reality, and of course the water signs would be very good at emotional manipulation if they decided to go that route because they'd be able to intuitively sense what to do in order to inflict what they want on someone, or get the kind of reaction out of them that they're after.

posted May 06, 2013 06:16 PM              

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Originally posted by mblover:
MorteImperator, could you please post your chart? It would be interesting to see what types of Evil energies you may be containing and may very well not be aware of! Let the Forum decide for you :-)

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To be fair to the OP, let's not pretend that what he/she said is totally ludicrous. I think we all know that an unevolved Pisces or unevolved Scorpio, can really be a twisted, nasty piece of work. That I don't object to so much as the fact that really you can find nasty pieces of work in all the signs.

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
If those linked sites say so, then I guess it must be true. lol

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Not that I'm signing on and agreeing that Pisces and Scorpio are the only signs capable of extreme evil - I'm not - but this really isn't a legitimate argument either, because there's plenty of legitimate sources for info on the web. Colleges and universities accept papers where the sources for the information came from online websites, all the time.

posted May 06, 2013 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Chirp:
Not that I'm signing on and agreeing that Pisces and Scorpio are the only signs capable of extreme evil - I'm not - but this really isn't a legitimate argument either, because there's plenty of legitimate sources for info on the web. Colleges and universities accept papers where the sources for the information came from online websites, all the time.

Am I saying that automatically makes all things online correct? Of course not, but it's not true that just because something was posted online, it has to be incorrect, either.

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posted May 06, 2013 07:14 PM            

I truly believe JW Gacy did not fully understand or accept his dark side and is probably convinced, on a conscious level, it doesn't exist. Mercury in Pisces is capable of this kind of self deception, depending on the aspects and the person.

posted May 06, 2013 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
It is a sign of contradictions

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posted May 06, 2013 07:47 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
It's a sign of paradox.

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posted May 06, 2013 07:52 PM            

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted May 07, 2013 08:02 AM              

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Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Hey mortalimperator, why the screen name change? Why not stick with Pisces Adonis?

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STUPID!Stop spamming my threads and opening revealing my old alias!

posted May 07, 2013 08:02 AM              

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Originally posted by Got Gemini??:
Hey mortalimperator, why the screen name change? Why not stick with Pisces Adonis?

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STUPID!Stop spamming my threads and opening revealing my old alias!

posted May 07, 2013 05:26 PM              

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Yes, Mortalemporator, I have read similar stories about Pisces. Fascinating sign. Thing is, with [B]Pisces, the old symbol was one fish. It's only recent history that has them as two. They are tied together so the Pisces soul is never far from the light and the dark. It is a sign of contradictions, sorta the watery version of Gemini.

I truly believe JW Gacy did not fully understand or accept his dark side and is probably convinced, on a conscious level, it doesn't exist. Mercury in Pisces is capable of this kind of self deception, depending on the aspects and the person.

And, I also agree about some of the other Nazis being worse than Hitler. Makes you wonder if Hitler would have been as evil without them? No one was there to tone down the extremism some, but then again, the Nazis got rid of any dissenting voices so they wouldn't have lasted long anyway.[/B]

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That brings up this image.

posted May 07, 2013 05:47 PM            

I don't have much experience with Scopios other than my mother and Cancers I don't like much in general, never have.

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Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted November 21, 2013 06:14 PM            

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Originally posted by SerpeantKing:
When I look into a Pisces eyes, sometimes you can just see them swimming around in their own imagination-it's a beautiful world to them. Pisces can do very horrible things and are excellent manipulators but they are also very easy to push around. Out of all the signs, I'd say Pisces absorb the most abuse from others. Most of the time-they won't stand up for themselves but they can do horrible things to. In most of the case I've seen, my theory is they do these things because they have either been brainwashed(very easy to brainwash a pisces) or they are sick in the head and have no idea the harm they inflict on others. Pisces is truly a creative, loving, SWEET sign.
Scorpio is a different story. They could often give less than two ***** about you or your life unless they consider you a "comrade". Out of all the signs, there is no more deep hatred, resent, anger, and killer instinct that a Scorpio can hold. Unlike Pisces who can be manipulative and may do things without understanding the crux of what they've done-Scorpio does. Scorpio is the only sign in the zodiac(besides Capricorn) that ACCEPTS the evil forces of mankind and does not seek to change them. Unlike Pisces-who may be easy to push around-Scorpio will fight tooth and nail for every inch he can get. If he must, he will fight to the death and willingly accept to go down fighting. Scorpios, being so vengeful, if need be-will sacrifice of themselves to make sure you feel their sting-kinda like a suicide bomber. Resolution, peace, utopia, even concern for the self, all of these qualities mankind holds dear are pushed aside by a vengeful Scorpio. He will suffer all just to make sure you suffer. There is no more extreme negative-than the negative of a Scorpio.

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Oh my god....amazing SerpeantKing, i agree with ALL of this
I'm scorpio rising 2 decan as well

posted November 21, 2013 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by JudyVanTassel:
Oh my god....amazing SerpeantKing, i agree with ALL of this
I'm scorpio rising 2 decan as well

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Yep! One of the best things I've read on here. *applauds*