posted May 09, 2013 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Ahem, I think MorteImperator had an Aries Mercury - if so, that could explain the "rude, mocking behaviour" of his, seeing as how he's rather immature and I'm sure he hasn't developed any of his placements. In general, I think he displays strong qualities of all his placements. But the immature qualities.
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He was barely 21, I believe, and largely uninterested in anything anyone here had to say that didn't collaborate what he already had attested to being his "experience". He had no interest in the more intricate workings behind astrological theory (the plausibility in aspects negating or promoting certain traits over signs/dominance for instance, eh), and was complacent in trusting his own word and "fact" with the generic big 3 examples online as the "truth", well... except when it came to accepting his sun sign's traits given by those same sources (I don't think he'd have recognized my father or ex's sister as Solar Pisces given his unreasonable understanding of the strength in his own solar sign) He poured over Scorpio Ascendant, Scorpio's generic attributes by those sources going back to when he was merely guessing his birth time, he has NOT to my knowledge and avid post mining since I started here, ever posted his actual chart, and only claims to have later begotten an accurate birth time indicating he had a Scorpio Ascendant and "voila" that pleased the **** out of him. (all that glorious Scorpio-identity was his for the taking, and explaiiiined evvvverything.) =x
I could care less really what rising he has, but he put a serious dent in my own ability to withhold building prejudice on bad acquaintances with certain placement holders... I am thankful to the reasonable Pisceans I've ever known and wish I knew more of ya', (Anon, dear... you are a great one! I don't know how anyone would even want to disrespect you and GG here, nothing you said deserved the spittle being tossed at you), and the amazingly awesome Leo Mooners here as well. (Leo moons are usually so adorable it makes my heart quake, and I really did try to see Mister MI/PA here as being one of those "cuddle-me"-kitty Mooners like monsieur was, and our resident Leobra (Xod)... but, no matter how many times I (or any of us, as I'm not the only one to say "hey, there's more to it than just that, pal") would try to broaden his techniques, his mindframe, to use the other assets the other astrology enthusiasts and professionals here use, he either got in a big "huff-wheeze-fit" that he was, like... "totally this way" or "x person was totally that way", and emphasized over and over "but, irl, but you don't get me" - and then he'd turn to using insults against those here not simply going along with his shallow interpretations, or outright ignore the insight you gave, or facts you presented (as in actual charts). So, we've all just wasted a lot of time trying to reason with someone unreasonable. This has a lot, (a LOT) to do with his lack of maturity, and nothing much to do with his actual placements, I feel. A sordid self-esteem, probably a lot of doubt, and ignorance always makes one uncomfortable... for every time he said Anon or Excellent one had little emphasis in their chart on Scorpion scale or experience in socializing with Scorpion-based people out there, it was more himself who is lacking that experience, and I gotta say... I giggled out loud... but, then he stepped way overboard. Wanting to hit someone??? over not agreeing on the internet?
Then, you very sweet people tried your best to roll with it, or keep at it, which only gave him more of a stage to "act out", and I have absolutely no doubt, this guy, this kid... will now use that very sentiment and what he will (as I said in my final post to him) use it to boost that very thing he claims to represent/hold within his concept of the signs and his "experience" (at 21 years, mind you), of his identity in other sites. Basically, everything we've tried to help him with, has backfired. That's all there is to it.
His Aries Mercury couldn't be too much further off from say, Anno's (or my Pisces/Aries cusp ex's sister, Scorpio Riser as well), and these two are worlds apart, and Anno has the same Scorpio/Pluto influence in her chart. Then you have Anon who has the Fishie and Scorpion influences and he is nothing like this kid, or even PBB who lacks the fish, I believe (right Peach?) but has the Scorp and Leo... again worlds apart. What makes them different... maturity! study! open-mindedness!
If anything has influenced him it would be the Aquarian energy in his chart and the lack of channeling and recognition he's given it though it is actually a highly dominant energy to his own admission, there to his Leo Moon. He wants us to see that he can roar that way and be defective, the rebel, the bad arse, and really "is totally something else"... but, he wanted to pin that all on Scorpio, and was at the same time spouting all kinds of stereotypes to his own Sun and other signs here, with very little research to back any of his "astute" claims. Gotta give it to him, at least he knows he is a fixed-type...
I shouldn't even have to mention how many times in both of his incarnations here that he's dropped names, usually DL's, as being his one reference point, or used other "net" examples... I've had a lot of "net"-friends... but let me tell ya... in 30 years, and 15 with experience online, those distant friendships often did not provide any birth information, especially verifiable. They were with people who any normal person, any sane person, would recognize could be totally BS-g about everything they are/were (and those of us with strong Merc or Scorpio/Pluto influence will usually question these things anyway, no??? suspicion is a fairly common trait held by Scorpions and intellectuals of solar/mercury placement or aspect). So, using those as factual examples of anything astrological or even scientific kinda' gets thrown out the window. I would be more accepting of the information shared between us netizens into astrology for astrology-sake than an acquaintance on yahoo answers, deviant art, or saint seiya forums. yeaaa... gotcha. ^^;
And, for god sake... I love the idea of speculating on a fictional character's sign, don't get me wrong... but, using the work of a writer who rarely does more than preliminary research into astrology if any before making their characters (especially a Japanese mangaka in their late 30s at the time, trying to touch on the magical-character-market by referring back to western zodiac, an exotic concept at the time), really isn't a reliable influence or maybe instrument to measure traits commonly exhibited by said signs.
Most literary characters will only exhibit a tiny fraction of what sign they may be intended to be (if that is even given, or if they are based on a real person), and even then it is more likely to be coincidental. (coming from a literary background... it is not the norm for authors to decide every character based on astrology, and definitely uncommon that they even refer to astrology).
That gets my grits. Provide a chart, analyze the full chart. If you don't have a birth time, fine... but don't insist it has to be one thing just because it is your experience. And, try not to discredit everyone else's theories or opinions just because they may not meet up with your own. Nothing will be achieved, and no wisdom gained by sticking with shallow examples or basing your assumptions on thin air. ~__~ There is also a huge difference between ridiculing someone's ideas and ridiculing that someone. There is nothing respectable about him insulting myself or any other member on this board just because he can't see there are differences between every individual out there in any sign/chart (that's ignorance again, on his part, not ours).
No amount of hand holding will lead him anywhere... I'd rather talk to AG about dating dynamics in today's youth, or discuss politics and my Eris-Pholus with Ami... If you get my point... *here's a cookie*
And, yes... I have serious reservations before I believe for even a second that he even is a Scorpio Ascendant. (in a nut shell, he has contradicted himself one too many times about his birth time and has yet to show a chart, and he displays very little of the personality I have seen in Scorpio Rising natives...) as for a photo image, I doubt he's shared that either (for obvious reasons after reading through previous posts he's made, it's understandable.) And also, while I do have my indulgences in stereotypical "Scorpion" habits, much like monsieur did before~ I'm decently tech/net savvy. If he is being hassled online in these communities it is because he has done stuff like this there and people have told him to chill out (literally), and he persisted, as he has done here... and he's offended far more people than have actually made it a point to offend him there. He makes it a point to ruffle feathers and talk about hot button subjects on these sites, maybe it is partially genuine interest, but mostly it gets him attention and a sense of achievement (he really shouldn't neglect the Uranus in his chart, it's definitely strong)... only problem is he isn't the type to accept the same firespitting that he tries to dish out. He's clearly a sensitive guy, and I feel for that~ (or I think my Neptune DSC ruler does at least, but Saturn semisquare wants it to stop caring, "silly Neptune")... But, yeah~ he can't take what he dishes out... so people "stalk" him? After all that flaming, yeah, no... it's not stalking, it's just being fed up with the BS that comes out of his fingertips that has them upset. I swear this one lives online. ~___~;
and that gamer comment before...wow.... and wanting to physically lash out at others for no reason... :/
geeze.
Also, just 2 more things...
He did not even mention being harassed by others when he petitioned for the name change from Randall. And, he came back pretty much the next day with a repeated topic-question... I reposted the original into that thread from his old handle to new. And, he did't seem to give a jolly good wink. It wasn't until this past week it was a big deal. Seems he just wanted a different handle, and likely to separate himself from his earlier posts, not just for the "lack of self esteem" responses they attracted from us here... but, as I've seen it... to detach himself from those earliest posts that show he's a greenhorn. He wants others (boards) to believe he knows it all. But, he can't do that when they can easily see his old posts asking the basics going back less than a year ago. This was his fresh start,a step away from being PA the newflake. (Allowing him to go do readings on his other boards without them knowing he had very little experience in the study, thereby avoiding them contending his analysis/professionalism.) ~ don't gotta take my word for it though... just what I've seen. *shrug* maybe he gets off on pretending to be something he's not, maybe he sincerely believes he is qualified... idk idc~ it was only his repeated "fear" that he was being stalked by some net bully that got my interest... and, I saw nothing indicating any severe threats, or threats at all really.
you know, like a total Cap... "blunt and mocking" (isn't that what he said?) lol Well, I wouldn't want to fail him now. Call a spade a spade... non?
Guy 's a pest, entertaining to some, but mostly a waste of time... his topics could be interesting if you did't feel like you were talking to a mannequin or a brick when responding to them. (course he's not a alone there, you get that every now and then with the boards everywhere).
Every time KQ/SS went to pat his head it only gave him a new name to drop later during his contesting what he said was obviously the only truth. Don't feed the trolls, right? Flamers are trolls of a different order, but he was just about up there with both right here, gotta say. Mostly he wanted to create flamebait, and did... the actually carrying through was then picked up by us here, so it's better not to feed into it, amirite?!
~steps down~ *floaton*
love u guys~ stay cool!~ 
good luck Mr. Psc/Leo/Sco(or Lib? whatever it is) ~ 
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