posted May 16, 2013 07:58 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
My 12th House dominant has me following my own mysticism. I don't belong to any organization but I like mysticism and spirituality, the unseen element. The unknown. I like exploring mystical worlds. I consider myself erudite.

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posted May 16, 2013 08:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
You should take a look on asteroids! I suppose their theme could show some direction, for example, a pattern with a theme of asteroids aspecting luminaries or axes!

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selene...do you have any ideas?
as in, what would show a connection to hinduism? would one look at asteroids like..shiva? is that how it works?

posted May 16, 2013 08:02 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
i understand. i think the negative part is then...becoming an armchair mystic.
lots of knowledge and tasting.....but never getting deep/involved enough.
that is, if one seeks heavy profundity.

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posted May 16, 2013 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
ok, this is prolly a question that is not asked often.
i want to know, if astrology can show/imply which spiritual path is more likely to be fulfilling (destined) for you.
as in, are you meant to follow a hindu sect? or maybe, an abrahamic religion?
or, shamanism, or, be non-religious...and so on?
is this possible?

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I don't think so

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posted May 16, 2013 10:39 PM            

You can look into both your natal and the natural ruler, house, tenants of the 8th, 9th, and 12th. Traditionally these houses and signs represent the occult/metaphysical/afterlife, the religious and philosophical, and spiritual/mystic arenas. 8th governed by Scorpio and Pluto(Mars), 9th Sagittarius and Jupiter, and 12th Pisces and Neptune(Jupiter). By looking at these in your chart (both the natal positions/rulers/aspects-relationships and the what their traditional governors are doing), you may find they somewhat correspond with your own feelings toward those areas. It may not give a precise explanation to the exact religion or faith you should/would/could adhere to, but they might still give more understanding on which "type" would appeal to you, and why.

And, then as Selene suggested, looking into those houses and the aspects between them, and your angles to certain other bodies may reveal a pattern, or prevalence of a/some other set/type of deity or faith that you may feel connected/interested in already. Along with other interpretations of course, such as having a past life in those cultures/regions, or having access to those spiritual energies/gifts... it depends on how you relate and how you interpret those connections yourself. It wouldn't be 100% direct and accurate, but it could be enlightening and worth exploring. ^^

For myself, I have a strong presence of Sagittarian energy in my chart, dominance, by traditional house and natal, I'm very connected to Jupiterean ideals on the philosophical and religious (very 9th house) fields. I'm religiously, spiritually eclectic, while I don't feel drawn to orthodox and organized religion, I don't have any disdain for them either. Sometimes I feel more philosophical than spiritually attuned as well. I have Sagittarius on the IC, harboring the majority of my planets, and a healthy chunk of the other celestial bodies in my chart, including Venus cnj South Node and Jupiter domicile. Jupiter exalts in Cancer, here I have Jupiter in Cancer's traditional house, exalt by house and domicile by sign... I have South Node domicile by sign, with the exalted ruler of my 9th on top of it exact. For interpretation's sake... this could show why I am drawn to my own cultural heritage, why I feel deeply connected to the spiritual beliefs my own ancestors held, and why I seek those out and feel comfortable with them over many others... it explains to an extent why I need freedom to roam, spiritually... why I need to constantly ask questions about different beliefs, and why exploring everything out there is so important to me as an individual. I have a Taurean 9th house, with Moon. When I look into my 9th house I find a connection, a synchronicity among the celestial feminine Earth/Fertility/domestic goddesses. I say my 9th is ruled just as much by Juno (who is quite at home in Taurus, I believe very strongly), as well as Gaea. They're not alone of course... And they connect to the ruler of my 3rd and 8th (so they connect to Scorpio and Aries, Mars-Pluto cnj in Scorpio), but these two are opposed... for whatever reason, I do not find destructive male divinities very appealing... perhaps this is why. They also make contact to my ASC/DSC axis. Meanwhile Venus is opposite Vesta and Rhea on my North Node in GEM X. Like this too, I see that my DSC is ruled by Pisces BML and Ceres... Ceres is connected to her eponym Demeter as well as Hera. There is a strong connection between the serpent goddess, and my ASC-DSC axis as well as to my Saturn (in Scorpio, 3rd) and 8th house tenants... I do have quite a few connections to Vedic spiritual figures, but they are the reverse to the classical, which I identify with more (this is my heritage, Greek blood, 4th/9th house connection), with Vedic figures I have more connections to male figures than to purely female... also, there's a prominent connection to the Egyptian deities, but I look at those as connections to both my present love of Egyptology and the possible history my soul may have had there at some point. (such as Sekhmet-DNA), there's a huge emphasis on the Greek figures though, and it is there that I feel most drawn... Not to say I believe in a polytheistic faith, or worship that way now... but, that the path to spiritual growth has involved them to some extent more than others, and they're energy, they're story resonates better with my own beliefs today. It doesn't say that I'm going to be gathering the fat and bones of every meal I make and offering it up to Hera, nor does it say that I'll be less inclined to accept the rituals of a monotheistic faith. It's more of... they show to me, that the rituals and the way I worship, the spiritual values or grievances I have lie within what they symbolize. My 12th house, and 12th house areas bring me a great amount of joy, and yes... spiritual fulfillment, I have Leo on the cusp with Sun in 5th trine Moon in 9th exact, Sun domicile by house, Jupiter is ruling over my Moon's ruler, and Pluto-Mars are ruling over my Sun's ruler, Jupiter makes aspect to my Moon, and to the ruler of each the ASC-MC-NN/DSC ruler and Moon... Jupiter, or Jupiter-like or Sagittarius-like spiritual paths are natural and compatible to my own beliefs... exploring (Jupiter/Sag) the spiritual and religious realms (12th-5th house influence) is a private, enjoyable, and invigorating hobby (5th house) to me... I may never settle into one path only, and I may constantly be changing my beliefs... but, that just shows the accuracy of these aspects and influences at play in my chart coming through.

It could be a 9th house Sun in Aries may make for a person with more interest in a monotheistic, path, or 9th house Saturn, may appreciate organized religious activities/worship more, but far as I can tell... there's not clear indicator outside of relating/interpreting asteroid (other bodies-axis-angles) to determine what shoe fits you best... just a bit of a clearer picture into what you may feel more akin to or find more valuable or interesting. Which is still a worthwhile pursuit, and the path to discovering even these little clues to what (might) work best with you is a rewarding endeavor, since you will likely find something you can/do relate to, even if not in a purely spiritual/religious/metaphysical way. ^^;

wordy~ again... sorry... =x

~as for which bodies indicate which religion/spiritual system... there are quite a few pages that list (including the one the asteroid forum is still compiling to link between articles/discussion) groups based on their background/connections to those cultures that they are concerned with, both here at LL and some other sites around the interwebs... interpretations vary place to place/author to author.

~ one list here:
COMP Asteroid List

there are other religious and mythological figures that aren't commonly mentioned but have been named from more obscure backgrounds than the common lot, but most have not been explored, or translated, or interpreted. (I'm working with East Asian bodies atm... and it is taking forever... sadly~ there's nothing out there unless you look at easily understood archetype deities/concepts... like Chang'E, for example... @__@;

There is a serious lacking of indigenous/aboriginal (tribal African, Australian, and even native) named bodies, but more and more are being assigned names from very different areas, different purposes, backgrounds... lots of modern names... and some even look at the ones still only identified by numerical code~ (I don't often relate to them until they are given an actual name... odd or not. idk. lol There are a few, an unnamed comet recently got my attention actually... very strange thing.) ^^;

I'm sure there is at least one for each distinct group of faiths out there... but, cannot find an entire list devoted just to them based on spirituality and religion. sorry~ >.<; (tried to though!!!)

posted May 17, 2013 02:34 AM            

Also your ruling planet, this tells so much about a person and you'll get a feel for what is right for you.

posted May 17, 2013 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by SaturnineMoth:

~as for which bodies indicate which religion/spiritual system... there are quite a few pages that list (including the one the asteroid forum is still compiling to link between articles/discussion) groups based on their background/connections to those cultures that they are concerned with, both here at LL and some other sites around the interwebs... interpretations vary place to place/author to author.

~ one list here:
COMP Asteroid List

there are other religious and mythological figures that aren't commonly mentioned but have been named from more obscure backgrounds than the common lot, but most have not been explored, or translated, or interpreted. (I'm working with East Asian bodies atm... and it is taking forever... sadly~ there's nothing out there unless you look at easily understood archetype deities/concepts... like Chang'E, for example... @__@;

There is a serious lacking of indigenous/aboriginal (tribal African, Australian, and even native) named bodies, but more and more are being assigned names from very different areas, different purposes, backgrounds... lots of modern names... and some even look at the ones still only identified by numerical code~ (I don't often relate to them until they are given an actual name... odd or not. idk. lol There are a few, an unnamed comet recently got my attention actually... very strange thing.) ^^;

I'm sure there is at least one for each distinct group of faiths out there... but, cannot find an entire list devoted just to them based on spirituality and religion. sorry~ >.<; (tried to though!!!)

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do you know how/where can i find these? ive been searching and searching...
i looked at astro.com's asteroid list..
the asteroids such as hekate, magion, medea function very well, and make total sense.
but, i tried africa, for example, and it doesnt seem an asteroid geared to spirituality matters

posted May 17, 2013 07:21 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Start with what is in your 9th house.
Make sure you take into consideration any aspects or configurations that the planet makes.

Also your ruling planet, this tells so much about a person and you'll get a feel for what is right for you.

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posted May 17, 2013 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by hikoro:
i understand. i think the negative part is then...becoming an armchair mystic.
lots of knowledge and tasting.....but never getting deep/involved enough.
that is, if one seeks heavy profundity.

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posted May 17, 2013 11:28 AM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
lol, oh, please. You don't have to be involved in any sect or organization to dig deeply into mysticism or spirituality. Mysticism is all about mystery and what lies beneath. You might even say that not being involved in any group could allow you to go deeper than if you did belong to some organization.

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this depends on what you're seeking and what you want to experience. i can tell you how far ive gone on my own, but, i cant say ive gone farther than x group...when i dont know what they actually do.
i think that, since in our western world, religion has been defined a la abrahamic and folks are ultraindividualistic, people tend to have a knee-jerk reaction towards anything that indicates initiation, belonging to a community or a group, etc...
so, allow me to clarify...there are paths that are initiatory-mystery religions. it is not about sects or organizations. many traditional indigenous religions are initiatory-mystery religions and are absolutely beautiful, these paths require initiation and belonging to a community, and...they are not confining nor controlling. they can actually be...very liberating and profound.
the eleusinian mysteries is a great example in antiquity. you did have to be part of the group in order to experience these mysteries.

posted May 17, 2013 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
lol, oh, please. You don't have to be involved in any sect or organization to dig deeply into mysticism or spirituality. Mysticism is all about mystery and what lies beneath. You might even say that not being involved in any group could allow you to go deeper than if you did belong to some organization.

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posted May 18, 2013 02:15 AM            

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