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Topic: Private/Secretive/Introspective Placements & Aspects
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ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 554 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 16, 2013 11:45 PM
I have a date with a guy who I recently met during a long train ride.He's extremely... private? and also doesn't have any internet presence whatsoever. It's not that he's socially inept. He's very friendly and communicative when in social situations, but prefers to be a loner. Getting more intimate/personal details out of him is a bit of a challenge. He's told me general details like where he works and hobbies. However, he doesn't give very deep or intimate details about how he feels or thinks... And I still haven't gotten his birthday out of him (he is 29... unsure if he has just turned 29, or will turn 30 this year, but at least I can get an ephemeris and look at what Sun/Merc combos I can find?). Not sure why he's so hush hush about it. He claims to never have been in love nor a relationship... He pursued me on the train, however, and asked me out on a date. We talk quite a bit, and he seems very attentive to whatever I say... so it's just strange to me that he's never been in love nor a relationship... Is it wrong for me to think this is strange? In a way, I feel like I'm being judgmental... at the same time, I feel like that's a huge red flag. Anyway, perhaps I'm not being objective about his apparent secretiveness since I'm such a social person. I'm thinking perhaps he has a lot of Scorpio placements? I sense that he has a very emotional nature deep down inside, it's very overt. But it's there. Perhaps a lack of air? He's very physically active, often going on solo long distance bike rides, so I think he might have a fire mars or Sun? I suspect a very fixed chart. I get a dependable, fixed vibe from him. He's very confident, very sexual though not a sleaze about it. Intelligent as well. Very well-spoken about everything but himself... I don't detect dishonesty from him, just a very private and perhaps protective nature. I still can't believe he won't give me his birthday... IP: Logged |
PixieJane Knowflake Posts: 2318 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 16, 2013 11:52 PM
quote: He claims to never have been in love nor a relationship... He pursued me on the train, however, and asked me out on a date. We talk quite a bit, and he seems very attentive to whatever I say... so it's just strange to me that he's never been in love nor a relationship... Is it wrong for me to think this is strange? In a way, I feel like I'm being judgmental... at the same time, I feel like that's a huge red flag
Red flags for me. While some are naturally secretive, I certainly don't believe he was that bold with you but that he's never been that way before. Sounds to me like a player wanting a little action on a trip and wants to be sure you don't find out who he really is (and his wife or wives), or that he doesn't want to chance you'll find out about his criminal past or history of conning people. And being that attentive, taking in without giving back, is another red flag. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 554 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 17, 2013 12:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Red flags for me. While some are naturally secretive, I certainly don't believe he was that bold with you but that he's never been that way before. Sounds to me like a player wanting a little action on a trip and wants to be sure you don't find out who he really is (and his wife or wives), or that he doesn't want to chance you'll find out about his criminal past or history of conning people. And being that attentive, taking in without giving back, is another red flag.
It is so strange, I know... I've verified everything I know about him, and he doesn't seem to be married or have a criminal past. I can certainly see how he hasn't been in a relationship or been in love. He's never said that he doesn't just casually date/sleep around. He could just be non-committal. I'm just not sure how to feel about this situation. All I know is that I would like to get to know him a little better. IP: Logged |
yaygirlthecat Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 17, 2013 12:38 AM
I know some people who are weird about joining social media/won't share random details who are normal but I don't know what the aspects are haha...Actually I've seen this with people with Virgo aspects being paranoid/wanting to be in control at all times. IP: Logged |
yaygirlthecat Knowflake Posts: 52 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 17, 2013 02:33 PM
I would make a joke out of it and tell him you want to make sure he's not a serial killer and you need some basic info about him. IP: Logged |
hikoro Knowflake Posts: 739 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2013 02:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: Red flags for me. While some are naturally secretive, I certainly don't believe he was that bold with you but that he's never been that way before. Sounds to me like a player wanting a little action on a trip and wants to be sure you don't find out who he really is (and his wife or wives), or that he doesn't want to chance you'll find out about his criminal past or history of conning people. And being that attentive, taking in without giving back, is another red flag.
so agree with you. what some folks dont see is that this "mysterious and lonely-poor puppy personality" is just a facade to lure women in... le sigh.
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enchantress299 Knowflake Posts: 655 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted May 17, 2013 03:36 PM
Ahem.However, on the flip side... It could be that this guy is somehow socially inept (or HE feels like he is socially inept) and so he really truly has never been in a loving romantic relationship. Perhaps he's dated, but it's never panned out for him. That might also explain why he's guarded- because he's been burned. I'm a very guarded person myself and people often think that I've been in way more relationships than I've been in because I'm sociable/cheerful/friendly, however the truth is, I have little experience in relationships. I think jumping to the conclusion that this guy is automatically a player because he's being nice to you is a fallacy. He's a freaking stranger you met on a train... Would you give a stranger you met on a train your birthday (and possibly your social security number and address while you're at it) and your entire life story? I don't think that most people do that. I know a guy who doesn't like to give out his birthday because he doesn't celebrate his birthday and hates it when other people make a big deal about it... So I'm not really sure that's a total 'red flag.' Give the guy a freaking chance. If you detect true dishonest/malicious behavior, THEN run like hell. In any case... This is speculative on everyone's part. He might be a player, he might be socially inept, he might just take some time to warm up. Who freaking knows?! But the truth is, you won't know unless you actually get to know the guy a little better. IP: Logged |
winter Knowflake Posts: 212 From: Australia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 17, 2013 06:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by enchantress299:
Give the guy a freaking chance. If you detect true dishonest/malicious behavior, THEN run like hell.
Yeah…..what she said. So he’s never been in love at 29. He might have some serious venus/saturn/cappy/virgo thing happening in his chart, doesn’t mean he isn’t capable of it.
Just because he has no internet presence and doesn’t instagram every meal and post pointless status updates doesn’t mean he’s hiding a wife, he may well be but he may be a keeper too. If you are interested in getting to know him further, keep yourself safe and go for it. IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy Knowflake Posts: 576 From: US Registered: Aug 2009
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posted May 17, 2013 08:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by hikoro: so agree with you. what some folks dont see is that this "mysterious and lonely-poor puppy personality" is just a facade to lure women in... le sigh.
Yeah, I definitely strongly 3rd this sentiment. A lot of guys know that women like "jobs" in men, as in women thinking they can cure them of their so called "melancholy", but it's just a tactic to get under your skin and get the brief attention they crave out of it. If someone has almost reached 30 years on this Earth without falling in love or at least feeling some romantic attachment to someone, I would be leery. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Moderator Posts: 1838 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 17, 2013 09:11 PM
Should add as well that some people are just raised to be listeners and to talk with other person more then about themselves.There were somethings that make me wonder if he has a Venus Squaring the Moon or Scorpio placements b/c some of the things you mentioned I do myself when I meet people for the first couple of times. I'd say go out somewhere that you are known by people who are there and just have a chat with him..can't hurt. IP: Logged |
its_aqua Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Mars Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 18, 2013 04:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by yaygirlthecat: I know some people who are weird about joining social media/won't share random details who are normal but I don't know what the aspects are haha...Actually I've seen this with people with Virgo aspects being paranoid/wanting to be in control at all times.
My boyfriend has Sun/Mercury/Venus/Mars in Virgo and Moon in Pisces and he had never a facebook account or anything similar.
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BlueTopaz124 Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 23, 2013 12:47 AM
A close family friend of mine is VERY social and doesn't participate in social media. At all.IP: Logged |