posted May 20, 2013 04:26 PM            

His Moon, Venus, and DC were conjunct my own AC and Moon... and his Sun/Mars and Merc/Neptune were on my own Jupiter/Neptune conjunction which made it all seem so magical that I could only believe the most positive interpretations of those aspects. It was so fated... and I Know without any doubt it was fated and meant to be...

because now I have my daughter...
the one thing in the life I have always been sure of without any doubt. <3

But today...
I looked at the Composite.
And the relationship is revealed with a big red X and square around it with all the big players bumping heads and destroying any beauty that connected us... except a pretty little girl... who I escaped with and who has grown in peace in beauty for years.

I looked at this for the first time today, inspired by my deep astrological research of late, combined with astro junkie's comments on what she found when she looked at her old relationships. You see, she was thinking the same thing that I had pondered on different occasions... does the astro click partner by Robert Hand just give either pleasant or watered down interps that delude you into thinking most all of your "crushes" would be good relationships or are there some really harsh interps for composites that are REALLY BAD?? Rest assured, Knowflakes..... if it is REALLY BAD, it certainly DOES show up in the Composite!!!

This has been quite the breakthrough for me today, and I hope it helps someone else. I believe I'll post the link to this thread in the Astrology 2.0 forum for others to enjoy.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000768.html

Thanks again, Linda Goodman and LindaLand

posted May 21, 2013 03:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Mystic Melody:

But today...
I looked at the Composite.
And the relationship is revealed with a big red X and square around it with all the big players bumping heads and destroying any beauty that connected us... except a pretty little girl... who I escaped with and who has grown in peace in beauty for years.

I looked at this for the first time today, inspired by my deep astrological research of late, combined with astro junkie's comments on what she found when she looked at her old relationships. You see, she was thinking the same thing that I had pondered on different occasions... does the astro click partner by Robert Hand just give either pleasant or watered down interps that delude you into thinking most all of your "crushes" would be good relationships or are there some really harsh interps for composites that are REALLY BAD?? Rest assured, Knowflakes..... if it is REALLY BAD, it certainly DOES show up in the Composite!!!

This has been quite the breakthrough for me today, and I hope it helps someone else. I believe I'll post the link to this thread in the Astrology 2.0 forum for others to enjoy.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000768.html

Thanks again, Linda Goodman and LindaLand

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Was it like this? A big rectangle with an x through it?

I came across this when I was experimenting with charts and have wondered for a while if those oppositions kinda indicated the sudden and terrible ending of the relationship. What happened is still a sore subject. I made it through tougher, more aware of myself and with new work and learning opportunities that I wouldn't of had otherwise.

posted May 21, 2013 04:56 AM            

However, the Moon-Neptune-opposition *can* be a problem. Everything just seems to magical, soulmatey and perfect in the beginning, and sometimes it is true, but more often than not, confusion, misunderstandings might take place, like the emotional connection suddenly gets a little blurry and inaccessible at times.
Also if Neptune is not merging things together, it has the tendency to erode and dissolve.

I suspect that either the composite did reflect natal resonances in a lopsided way (maybe repeating one person`t natal aspects more strongly than the other`s) or/ and triggering natal planets and configurations in unbalanced ways (conjunctions/ Oppositions to the natal planets within 3 degree orb).

posted May 21, 2013 05:09 AM            

He had quite a dislike for me. I did like him at first, but that faded away quickly. But I never thought he would be that much of a sociopath.

The composite does not relate to my natal planets at all. Except for my natal Uranus on 1 Scorpio being conjunct composite Sun.

his natal NN was conjunct composite Venus exactly (and actually squared by my natal Saturn on 16 Cancer)

But yes, this very much looks like the composite from hell.

posted May 21, 2013 05:19 AM            

That is certainly a relief to know..thank you so much for sharing.

posted May 21, 2013 05:29 AM            

I made the composite between my natal and the transits of that day.

The "danger" or darkness is easy enough to see with the Moon-Saturn-conjunction opposed by Pluto.

However it got worse because composite Pluto was on my Uranus and Moon/Saturn were opposite my Uranus (nervous breakdown? Uranus rules my 3rd house, and composite Pluto was on my 11th house cusp with Moon and Saturn on my 5th house cups)

that Mars quinkunx is not easy either.

composite Jupiter was conjunct Sun/Neptune-mp and conjunct these two, which on the one hand relates to physical weakness, but maybe was my saving grace, as composite Jupiter was EXACT on my natal Sun.

Also interestingly that composite LUcifer was exactly on my natal Black Moon lilith.

composite ASC was conjunct my natal Pluto - and that night Tr Jupiter was exactly conjunct composite ASC - as I said I was having some extraordinary guidance or luck.

Tr Uranus and Neptune fell onto the composite IC and oposing my natal Saturn.

Tr Saturn and tr BML conjunct my natal Moon (thus reiterating the Moon-Saturn from the composite itself, and activating my own Moon-Saturn-quinkunx from 2nd to 8th house).

posted May 21, 2013 05:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
''...if it is REALLY BAD, it certainly DOES show up in the Composite!!!''

That is certainly a relief to know..thank you so much for sharing.

Synastry wise,things don't look too good while have been told composite has a kite and supposedly is considered positive.

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posted May 21, 2013 11:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually the pattern above is a golden rectangle, and considered a pretty positive pattern, as the oppositions are cushioned by sextiles and trines.

However, the Moon-Neptune-opposition *can* be a problem. Everything just seems to magical, soulmatey and perfect in the beginning, and sometimes it is true, but more often than not, confusion, misunderstandings might take place, like the emotional connection suddenly gets a little blurry and inaccessible at times.
Also if Neptune is not merging things together, it has the tendency to erode and dissolve.

I suspect that either the composite did reflect natal resonances in a lopsided way (maybe repeating one person`t natal aspects more strongly than the other`s) or/ and triggering natal planets and configurations in unbalanced ways (conjunctions/ Oppositions to the natal planets within 3 degree orb).

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posted May 21, 2013 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
I came across this when I was experimenting with charts and have wondered for a while if those oppositions kinda indicated the sudden and terrible ending of the relationship. What happened is still a sore subject.

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Originally posted by page one:
What about the Mars/Uranus conjunction opposing Chiron? If there's one configuration here that points to "a sudden, terrible ending", that would seem to be it.

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someone please clarify what was the sudden, terrible ending @ the Composite posted above.
I have Chiron oppose Mars/Uranus conj in the Composite with a recent crush and needs to know.

posted May 21, 2013 01:36 PM            

However, IF Mars, Uranus or Chiron are tightly conjunct natal planets, especially angles, luminaries or nodal axis, it could actually be the the reason, yes.

On its own, I don´t think so. If it had been strongly connected to composite angles or nodal axis, maybe, but it is just floating around somewhere, it is not in the foreground.

Unless as I said there is natal or synastric resonance to this.

Let me quote Noel Tyl, as I think there is very much truth to it
"Nothing important happens in life unless the Angles, Sun, or the Moon is involved.” – Noel Tyl"
http://www.hniizato.com/2008/02/predictions-solar-arc-and/.html

Of course he was speaking about individual predictions, but I think it is valid in any kind of chart, just I would add the nodal axis to this.

posted May 21, 2013 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Actually the pattern above is a golden rectangle, and considered a pretty positive pattern, as the oppositions are cushioned by sextiles and trines.

However, the Moon-Neptune-opposition *can* be a problem. Everything just seems to magical, soulmatey and perfect in the beginning, and sometimes it is true, but more often than not, confusion, misunderstandings might take place, like the emotional connection suddenly gets a little blurry and inaccessible at times.
Also if Neptune is not merging things together, it has the tendency to erode and dissolve.

I suspect that either the composite did reflect natal resonances in a lopsided way (maybe repeating one person`t natal aspects more strongly than the other`s) or/ and triggering natal planets and configurations in unbalanced ways (conjunctions/ Oppositions to the natal planets within 3 degree orb).

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Thank you for clarifying that. Interesting that this is a positive pattern as it was positive relationship until the end.

posted May 21, 2013 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
someone please clarify what was the sudden, terrible ending @ the Composite posted above.
I have Chiron oppose Mars/Uranus conj in the Composite with a recent crush and needs to know.

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posted May 21, 2013 03:44 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
I don't really want to go into it in too many details but it ended up with me in the hospital and having to get a restraining order.

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Was there Mars-URanus in the natal as well? Tied to the angles?

posted May 21, 2013 03:52 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
I don't really want to go into it in too many details but it ended up with me in the hospital and having to get a restraining order.

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can you, please, post the synastry charts as well, with Nessus involved. Sorry to hear you have gone thru this.

posted May 21, 2013 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
are you the inside or outside wheel?

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posted May 21, 2013 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by themischievousone:
inside

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posted May 21, 2013 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by themischievousone:
[b] inside

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I second that. Also it seems like his Sun is squaring the Uranus-Chiron-opposition of the composite.

posted May 22, 2013 03:50 AM            

Even an Uranus trine will vibe with a certain need for freedom or space, and a Venus-Jupiter-square or Moon-Venus-square in composite can actually be deliciously sizzling with emotions and pleasure.

However, we have to always keep in mind that of course these are just single isolated cookbook interpretations. They are a good starting point, but have to be seen in the context of the whole chart and against the backdrop of the natal charts.

Actually I don`t think composite charts can be read as stand alone charts, or at least not in an in-depth-way. Yes, I know they ARE being read as stand alone charts, but I am always curious what the underlying factors are. What is underneath that Venus-Pluto-square for example?
Is it a new experience for the two people, something that they generate by being together, which comes like a shock to their system?
Is it resonating throughout the natals, is this a theme they carry inside and becomes highligthed through their togetherness and most likely giving them a feeling of "no escape"?
Is there a synastric aspect mirroring this? If so, who plays which role?
Is this in any way connected to the individual charts? How are the people touched by their relationship? What dormant potential is activated through the relationship? (I wouldn`t want my composite to touch a man`s Mars-uranus-Pluto-T-square for example, especially not if it also connected to my own planets in any way. I could very well become the catalyst for him to unleash all that explosive potentially violent energy)
I`ve seen the most intense composite charts being felt only lukewarm, when the key-connections did not connect to the natal charts.

There are just so many possibilities how a conjunction or square or trine in a composite chart can be made, as the planets are acutally midpoints between planets.

posted May 22, 2013 01:53 PM            

Its funny I had the wrong birth time till last week so I always felt the composite was off until I had the right birth time.

Saturn conjunct ASC is very stabilizing. We've broken up a couple of times (granted this was before we lived together) but managed to work through the problems and came back together stronger and more loving than before.

If all works out we might get married someday. We already live together in a very tiny apartment and never seem to really get sick of each other. And Jupiter - the chart ruler conjunct the IC our domestic life together is very expansive and fruitful.

Oh and Sun in the 7th house opposite Moon/Uranus. Sun - Moon in the composite is a very dynamic and activating energy and it makes sense that we've been on and off a few times especially with Uranus involved.