posted May 21, 2013 09:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Sun-Saturn aspects!

I don't end up getting close in any rel or friendship, unless there is mutual respect - probably due to my Cap placements. But in the relationship that really stands out as being extra respectful on both sides - we had our Suns and Saturns in a grand trine - all very close aspects. We also had Sun/Saturn in the composite and interestingly, in the first meeting chart.

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posted May 21, 2013 10:06 AM            

I've never experienced any overwhelming love in a relationship, but a great mutual respect, yes... and that was with someone who I shared a dw positive aspect between our Moon-Saturns...

Contrary-wise, for me, it seems that often harsh aspects between Mars & Saturn make for a lack of mutual respect. >.<; Including my current relationship, with a "positive" collision of his Saturn and my Mars (0* cnj); of course we also suffer from Moon opposite Moon (fixed axis, Scorpio-Taurus)...

I wouldn't limit it to just an aspect between your planets and theirs, or even singularly being Saturn-related. It could be that having Saturn rule my Sun involved makes it that way for me, maybe for you or another it would be a positive aspect involving their bodies in relation to your Sun's ruler, or Sun itself. ^^;

I think, for me, a lot of times the people I respect the most are people who oppose or square my Sun, and those with planets in my 1st house (Virgo)... I'd even consider an aspect to MC worth looking into by synastry in those relationships. At least as far as educators I've respected over the years, they do have planets in my 10th house or directly to my MC (and often MC/ASC/NN ruler - Mercury... Gemini placements).

But, yeah, Mars and Saturn/Mars and Moon have usually played a major role in less than respectful dealings that I've noticed.

Either their* (doh edit! Grrr) views/morality/ambitions are utterly incompatible with my own, at least on some vital level, or they are absolutely disrespectful of my feelings. (Surely, vs/vs at times... I'm no saint.) >.<

But, there's a difference between communicating respectfully with someone, and actually valuing their being, their thoughts, their feelings, and dreams - even when they are not shared, so in some ways it may be a cordial respect only if Neptune, Mercury are the only positive aspects to our Sun/Saturn/Moon... And, the more sincere and unconditional respect is from (possibly) the Sun's ruler, ASC (or ruler) and/or their own...

If it's just a matter of their natal aspects, it would follow the general rules of compatibility, having good aspects between their "dealing with other people/relationship"-houses (rulers etc). 7-8, 10-11. Something like that may make them appear more respectful overall to others, because it shows more precisely how they hold themselves to their word/engagements (7), how they handle disputes and what is valuable to people other than themselves (8), and how they value their own reputation, working or otherwise (10), and everyone around them of any importance (11).

posted May 21, 2013 10:31 AM            

One thing you said that stood out to me was, "it may be a cordial respect only if Neptune, Mercury are the only positive aspects to our Sun/Saturn/Moon..."

We do happen to have a strong Mercury/Neptune conjunction as well, so maybe a bit of idealism is involved.