posted May 24, 2013 05:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No I don´t.

However, if I were to use Vedic astrology, I would stick to their rules, as they are using whole sign aspects as I believe.

Anyway, I would pay attention to the sign background in Western astrology as well, but it is not the same as an actual aspect.

But I know that there are other astrologers who would use a 9 degree orb for this. Just I don`t.

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posted May 24, 2013 05:27 AM            

However, I have also noticed the 8th harmonic aspects (semisquare and sesisquare) to be stronger than given credit, though not as strong as a square obviously.

I also lately started payng more attention to the quintile and biquintile. They are the "crazy" ones of the bunch.
And yes, they are minor aspect, but should they be vey tight (under one degree), or make a quintile pattern that relates to a midpoint configuration, oh boy, do not underestimate them then!

There`s a certain spark or zing coming with them. But of course we need to keep in mind that they are still minor aspects.

I like this description

"Quintiles: Dividing the Circle by Five

When we divide the circle by the number five, we get an aspect of 72°. The meaning of five is complex. In sequence, it’s the first number to step out of the materialistic ‘box’ of the four. It’s the first number to transcend the four, which creates material reality.

The five is represented by the pentagram, which shows a ‘four’ transcended by a fifth point above it. This fifth point acts as a funnel through which concentrated higher energies can flow down into manifest reality.

The five is considered creative and is associated with the Sun (Leo). It is made up of the energy of duality (the 2) transcended by the 3.

Natally, quintiles indicate gifts—the two planets can use their qualities in a beneficial, creative manner. Quintiles may show unusual talents or abilities that seem complete and god-sent—abilities that we don’t have to struggle to perfect.

In synastry, between charts, quintiles can produce an almost otherworldly understanding of the way the individual planets are operating. If my Saturn is quintile your Venus, you will have an innate compassion for my Saturn issues, and I will instinctively know how to support your Venus.

However, relationships dominated by quintiles often possess an otherworldly quality of their own, as if they don’t rely on the common things of this life to survive. Loves that continue long after the affair is over are often quintile loves. "
[URL=http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/]http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/07/31/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/[/UR L]

Paul Westran, whose "When stars collide" on progressed synastry I absolutely recommend to any astrologer, also includes them in his reports.

An example from my own report, as actually there is a quintile forming from my natal Sun to his pr Venus:

"There is something uniquely unusual about your relationship, but the feelings you have for each other are no different from any other couple. The quintile bestows a creativity which stirs the curiosity. You both find each other fascinating.

When they connect by the quintile aspect, they tend to be poised in a dance of sublime complexity whose underlying principles are attraction and intrigue.

Whatever your talents and gifts, the quintile in relationships urges you to combine them so that you can utilize them together on the same project.

This is a temporary dynamic of your relationship, although it may occasionally last for a decade or more.

Other couples who shared this connection at the outset of their relationship include: Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward; Enrique Iglesias and Anna Kournikova, and Robert and Ethel Kennedy."

I also find the quindecile aspect of 165° very worth the research.
I think Noel Tyl considers it to be nearly as strong as the square for example.
I am still researching, but so far I found the quindeciles in my own chart VERY telling
(I have one from Venus to Vertex, and from my Sun/Mercury-conjunction to the SN).

posted May 24, 2013 05:43 AM            

1. conjunction and opposition

2. trine and square

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3. quintile/ biquintile and semisquare/sesisquare

4. sextile and quinkunx

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5. novile/ binovile/quadranovile and septile/biseptile/triseptile

The order of sextile/quinkunx and quintile/semisquare could probably be interchanged.
However more important than the order is the vibe the aspects carry and how tight they are.

A semisquare with 00 degree orb is far more significant to me than a trine with 9 degree orb.

posted May 24, 2013 06:01 AM            

I can totally relate to this.

posted May 24, 2013 06:20 AM            

I just noticed that not only is my Sun-Mercury conjunction conjunct a guy`s Moon/Sun/MC, but my Jupiter is actually exactly quintile his Moon-MC-conjunction.
As if we need any more Jupiter-synastry!

But I do feel quite supportive of him.

In the composite we have some quintiles as well:

Sun in 11th house quintiles Pluto in 8th house exact

And there is a curious pattern there of:

posted May 24, 2013 06:26 AM            

At least you know you are in for a ride

''I think the quintile encompasses more than compassion towards one`s flaws though. Mercury-VEnus-quintile DW sounds delicious, flirtative, communicative and so on.''

True,and playful...like children kinda playful,it's crazy. Sometimes I feel we are not adults, we are just two children giggling uncontrollably making faces at each other!

posted May 24, 2013 06:37 AM            

Quintiles are playful themselves. Mercury of course has a certain youthfulness and sometimes childlikeness to him, and Venus is always in for joy.

I suspect quintiles esp betw. these planets work like children putting their heads together and the observer can literally SEE They are thinking of what prank to play next or what crazy, but pleasant, thing to start next to get some joy into life.

As for my own synastry, well, the curious thing is, whenever he is near, there is this carefreenes breaking through in me. It`s like being a child again, just a child with a very active hormonal system. lol

It was actually the first thing I noticed when he crossed my way. He reminds me of who I really am inside. It`s impossible to not conect to my inner child when he is around, for his positive vibe and enthusiasm. It`s contagious!

posted May 24, 2013 07:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Guys, what about orbs?

Are we counting the 3 degree cap for conjunctions in synastry, too?

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My natal YODs:
Sun (25 Pis 0'21") sextile Moon (24 Tau 39'48")
Sun/Moon quincunx IC (23 Lib 34'40")

Venus (8 Ari 23'51") sextile Chiron (9 Gem 44'0")
Veuns/Chiron quincunx Pluto (7 Sco 0'55)

Jupiter (5 Pis 31'29") sextile Neptune (5 Cap 40'2")
Jupiter/Neptune quincunx Asc (2 Leo 44'2)

My father had Neptune @ 9 Sco 8'15", my mother had Neptune @ 8 Sco 27'49, both conjunct my Pluto and even closer in degree than my own natal placement to complete my Venus/Chiron based YOD.

My best friend of 16 years has her Pluto quincunx my Venus by 2'05", but not Chiron. I think what sets her apart from other people with their Pluto conjunct mine is that her IC is conjunct my ASC by 1 24'1" which *barely* touches my Jupiter/Neptune based YOD.

My best friend's boyfriend of 5 years whom I consider a brother has his Mars quincunx my Jupiter by 0 15'00 and Neptune by 0 24'00.

My fiance has his Chiron conjunct mine by less than 18 minutes and his Pluto conjunct mine by less than 20, completing the same YOD I already have in my natal. His Merc (6 Aqu 28'41" widely opposes my Asc at almost 4 degrees, but is almost perfectly semisextile to both Jupiter and Neptune, both less than 1 degree. His MC (23 Pis 15'43) is sextile my Moon by 1'24" and quincunx my IC by about 18 minutes.

A person I hold near and dear to my heart has his Merc (5 Leo 57'14") and his Venus (4 Leo 30'31) at the apex of my Jupiter/Neptune YOD. Mercury is quincunx both by less than 30 minutes and Venus by just over 1 degree. This person even adds new flavor to one my YODs by creating his own with my Venus/Pluto quincunx and his NN. His NN sextile my Pluto by less than 2 degrees (1'40" ish) and quincunx my Venus by less than 30 mins...

posted May 24, 2013 07:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
That is totally what I would expect from a Mercury-Venus-quintile.

Quintiles are playful themselves. Mercury of course has a certain youthfulness and sometimes childlikeness to him, and Venus is always in for joy.

I suspect quintiles esp betw. these planets work like children putting their heads together and the observer can literally SEE They are thinking of what prank to play next or what crazy, but pleasant, thing to start next to get some joy into life.

As for my own synastry, well, the curious thing is, whenever he is near, there is this carefreenes breaking through in me. It`s like being a child again, just a child with a very active hormonal system. lol

It was actually the first thing I noticed when he crossed my way. He reminds me of who I really am inside. It`s impossible to not conect to my inner child when he is around, for his positive vibe and enthusiasm. It`s contagious!

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OMG,this is so true!!

I'm embarassed to even speak about the childish games we resort to

And it's like never ending you know...makes me think of a spoiled child who wants his mommy like right now!

posted May 24, 2013 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by LionFish:
Like I said, all the meaningful/long-standing relationships in my life touch at least one of my YODs in some way or another.

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Yes, I think that is actually one of the most binding glue factors. If people set off our natal configurations or are even closing some.

while I do not have a Yod of my own, my best friend and me make several together.

My Moon on 17 Aqua sextile her Moon on 16 Aries quinkunx her Sun on 17 Virgo.

My Saturn on 17 Cancer sextile her Sun on 17 Virgo quinkunx my Moon on 17 Aqua.

her Saturn on 12 Leo sextile her Venus/Mars/Pluto on 11 Libra, quinkunx my Jupite on 11 Pisces.

her Uranus on 6 Scorpio and NN on 5 Scorpio sextile my Venus on 6 Cap, quinkunx my DESC on 7 Gemini

her DESC on 11 Cap sextile my Jupiter on 11 Pisces quinkunx her Saturn on 12 Leo

her IC on 4 Virgo sextile her Uranus and NN on 5 and 6 Scorpio quinkunx my IC on 5 Aries.

posted May 24, 2013 07:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:

I know what you mean, it's like the sight of him wants you to rattle his cage with a few pranks of your own, and he'll catch the drift and give it back to you! It's really energizing and fun.

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it´s EXACTLY the vibe. And I`ve missed this so much!

I used to have it as a kid and even as a teenager, but then when I became a responsible adult, I sort of lost it, and it just feels so good and natural and so much like ME to step into this again. Well, to be fair I am more on the receptive end and am just getting into this old more carefree Me. It is like a muscle that you haven`t used for long. It needs a bit of training. But I love this vibe so much.

I am sometimes overemphasizing my Venus in Cappy or the Neptunian side of my personality or even my Moon in Aqua, but tend to neglect the Sagitarius-side of me, and it is such a big part, with Sun, Mercury, Mars, Neptune, NN, ASC all in Sag, and Jupiter squaring Mars, Neptune, NN and ASC.
And he makes me feel very Sagittarian.