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Chiemi
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posted May 25, 2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just realized I have this transit (6'10 degrees applying) and t.pluto is conjunct my DSC at 4'45 degrees seperating.


It seems like everything I read on this aspect advises against relationships since they usually turn out crazy intense, manipulative, etc. Is it really that bad? Do all relationships under this transit end badly?

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Kalilak
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posted May 25, 2013 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kalilak     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd say if you dig Plutonian relationships, then no, it isn't bad. But I would watch out for possessive mates, and secrets! And when it comes to sex... you'll either get a lot of it, or none of it, depending on a lot of other factors.

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Chiemi
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posted May 26, 2013 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kalilak:
I'd say if you dig Plutonian relationships, then no, it isn't bad. But I would watch out for possessive mates, and secrets! And when it comes to sex... you'll either get a lot of it, or none of it, depending on a lot of other factors.

I'm ok with the no sex part I'm still a youngin and I'm wayyy too paranoid of any "unplanned" events happening.

And thank you for the heads up! I have scorpio mars and pluto in my 5th house and pluto rules my 5th house so I can see how I tend to like and attract plutonian-themed relationships.


I JUST started talking to a guy I had the hugest crush on last year, and he's def plutonian (I always attract people who either have sun/pluto, moon/pluto, mars/pluto hard aspects and or scorp venuses). For now I'm just taking things slow (trying to anyway lol). I also have t.uranus opposite my venus in libra so although I kind of crave a relationship at the moment, I also feel like I still need my space and I just want to continue enjoying being independent.


I don't know.. I like this guy but deep down I think I should probably just stay his friend, especially since I'll be going to another part of the state for college and I don't think I could handle another LDR ever again.

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iliketurtles
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posted May 27, 2013 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iliketurtles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had this but i also had alot of other crappy transits going on at the same time. my intuition went into overdrive during this transit it was a huge pain alot of the time. i was overanalysing everything and getting creeped out by almost every man who crosse my path. i swear i had never felt so paranoid and/or grossed out in my entire life. with regards to n.ven square tr.pluto, i got alot of unwanted attention from men during this time. there was quite a bit of imposition, men taking advantage, (attempted) intimidation and bullying but i always stood my ground and even though i was at work, i always made it clear i did not appreciate their behaviour or treatment towards me. as i said there were a number of creeps but many others were actually harmless.

it was also the first time in my whole life i becaame interested in being in a committed relationship. i met and subseqently developed crushes on two guys during venus/pluto transit. one was completely unavailable and the other stood me up. he basically just used me for attention (even after the missed date). he then remained a complete prick until i got sick of hating him and forgave him and i felt much better. i didn't even care if he still sought attention. his need for gratification was his problem not mine. i'm still allowed to think hes an idiot but i hope he finds some true happiness someday if only because it will make him a better person.

hm yes i just had a ****loads of problems emotional, financial you name it. it peaked in 2011 but 2009-early 2012 was all pretty crap. i know it sounds horrible and it was for me but as i said i also had lots of other nasty major transits going on. your experiences can be completely different. my only piece of advice would be to keep an eye out for men/people in general trying to pull the wool over your eyes, play games or take advantage of you. be extra careful who you deal with and keep your wits about you - you'll be good

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posted May 27, 2013 07:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends. My bf has this aspect but hes older so he probably grew out of most of the negative traits.

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magicspells
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posted May 27, 2013 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for magicspells     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iliketurtles:
it was also the first time in my whole life i becaame interested in being in a committed relationship.

This is me, I had it around the start of the year at 10 degrees libra venus which is natally in the 12th house

Before this transit I was never interested in having a boyfriend and when it hit it was like bam! I developed a huge crush on a colleague and would day dream incessantly about love even though we were EXTREMELY different people. I kept it a secret in true 12th house fashion and pretty much acted like he didnt affect me at all. Anyway, I don't like him anymore.. I felt cnnected to his soul but I kind of convinced myself to switch off the madness because he has a gf and we had completely different beliefs!

The square is starting back up again since pluto is retrograding !!
I'm not sure what is going to happen this time. I think the first time it was applying I learnt that mental chemistry is more important that physical chemistry.

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Chiemi
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posted May 27, 2013 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iliketurtles:

it was also the first time in my whole life i becaame interested in being in a committed relationship.


Same here o.o, although I'll admit I crush a lot (maybe uranus in 7th?) I haven't exactly been "hey I reallyyyyy want to be in a relationship with you" until recently.


There is one guy who I kinda obsessed over my junior year, but never talked to him until the last months of our senior year. Maybe it's my Neptune in 7th? But I feel like after I hung out with him recently I don't know if we have anything in common as far as our direction in life goes. Plus to be honest, he's kind of more shy/not as confident while I'm the more outgoing one, and that's kind of hard for me too because I don't want to feel like I'm bossy or wearing the pants all the time if a relationship did progress. I did get a reading on us that mentioned I needed patience with him so I am just trying to take things slow.


I don't know :l. I feel like a indecisive mess and I'm probably over analyzing everything a ton too lol (yay libra venus).
I also have t.pluto in my 6th conjunct my DSC currently so it's kind of like a double whammy pluto/venus theme going on in my life making relationships a big focus for me .

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LovelyKitty
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posted May 27, 2013 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beware of this transit though, the man you'll meet , will have plutonian characteristics...which is intense . You need to find out which one is actuall right for you and don't surrender to someone that only push on bad plutonic effect to you. The positive site of this t.pluto in 7th is maybe you'll find someone that transform your realtionship beautifully without any manipulative way.

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Chiemi
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posted May 27, 2013 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chiemi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyKitty:
Beware of this transit though, the man you'll meet , will have plutonian characteristics...which is intense . You need to find out which one is actuall right for you and don't surrender to someone that only push on bad plutonic effect to you. The positive site of this t.pluto in 7th is maybe you'll find someone that transform your realtionship beautifully without any manipulative way.

I think I already encountered that one haha

There was a guy I mentioned earlier in another thread who was plutonian/martian too (mars square sun, sun opposite pluto, and mars square pluto - almost exact) and he was definitely someone I needed to avoid.


We knew each other all throughout high school but never really talked to each other past hi and bye until the end of junior year and the beginning of senior year. Well long story short he started to seem interested but since he's known to be really nice/ a flirt I didn't think too much on it and just remained friendly.


Then all of a sudden he starts purposely ignoring me (actually walking in my line of view or right past me without a word) so at first I thought he had a bad day or something but it started to continue and I began to just ignore him completely back. Sooner or later he talks to me again once he saw I wasn't going to beg for his attention, we start chatting again like normal and he even starts hugging me/ touching my hand/ standing even closer sometimes..... and again.. he pulls the ignoring for attention act -__-. After that point I just said eff him and ignored him back and acted like he didn't even exist. He tried talking to me again, even sitting right next to me facing me to see if I'd talk to him but nope. I talked to him only when necessary but other than that I ignored him and even took a new route to class so I wouldn't see him (funny this new route actually ended up being the hall D - the guy I had a major crush on and finally got to talk to - is in before his class, and it ended up a meeting place we'd chat before class lol).


I just had prom not long ago and M (ignoring for attention guy) did the whole pop up in my view thing there with his new girlfriend. I just continued to ignore him and avoid him whenever he seemed to hover in my area. He even came up to the bar a few seconds after I did with his girlfriend and gave me a compliment -.-", I just said thanks, gave him a compliment back and complimented his girlfriend, got my water, smiled and walked off to my friends.


Although I was attracted to him, he was definitely someone who pushed my buttons. I think there was just too much sexual tension between us or something. He also has a t.pluto square moon transit going on right now.

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