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Topic: I am not like my Sun Sign.
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ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 558 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 25, 2013 11:13 PM
At all.A lot of people are surprised when I tell them that I'm a Cancer. Most predominantly guess that I am either a Sagittarius, Aquarius, or Leo. Interestingly enough, I have no Aquarius or Leo in my chart, nor any 5th or 11th house placements. I'm not a homebody; I travel often. I am not emotional. I'm probably the most practical, pragmatic person I know. I let go and forget harms done to me fairly easily. In relationships, I'm mostly detached and require a lot of alone time. I very rarely talk about my feelings unless roused to do so. I do not have a good relationship with my mother. I'm not family-oriented, though I do take care of my immediate family whenever they need to me to. I'm not the person you go to for sympathy. I'm straight-forward, my advice is not delicate nor diplomatic. Does anyone else feel like they should have been born another sign? I wonder what's in my chart that makes me so... un-Cancerlike... IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 1307 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 25, 2013 11:17 PM
I know why - it's because you, most likely, project through Capricorn, opposite Cancer, and your sun is in the opposite part of your chart due to your ascendant. In other words, your Cancer sun is no where near the traditional house which it rules, house four so you feel less like Cancer and more like a mix of Cancer and the house your sun is in, or part of the chart it's in (above the horizon in your case.) This is the outer world, and it is less personal while Cancer is extremely personal. I understand how you feel so completely! You are also Libra ascending, just like me!!!! and we have the same dilemma, almost exactly the same!!! Wonder if it has something to do with the special predicament of having Libra on the rising degree? All our houses have the opposite signs. I have reached the conclusion it's a special karmic pattern and Libra is a karmic sign to have on the ascendant. It indicates being born into life with karma from another, imo, due to the signs being turned around. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 1119 From: walking with my head in the clouds! Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 25, 2013 11:28 PM
quote: ElizabethO: I'm not a homebody; I travel often. I am not emotional. I'm probably the most practical, pragmatic person I know. I let go and forget harms done to me fairly easily. In relationships, I'm mostly detached and require a lot of alone time. I very rarely talk about my feelings unless roused to do so. I do not have a good relationship with my mother. I'm not family-oriented, though I do take care of my immediate family whenever they need to me to. I'm not the person you go to for sympathy. I'm straight-forward, my advice is not delicate nor diplomatic.
Personally, I remember you for your Libra AC. But any ways, a lot of those traits aren't really Cancer-like to begin with...my very Cancer friend gives very straight-forward, hard edge advice. Not sympathetic. She's the same with talking about feelings - after all, Cancers have shells for a reason! She doesn't have a good family or mother relationship as well. Travelling often is a H9 thing; and I always thought of homebody being more accurately described as having a core group of people or things which you retract to. Then again, you are pretty airy too... IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 2149 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 26, 2013 01:04 AM
A lot of air going on. The mercury in Gem would make you more logical. So you probably rationalize your emotions.IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 26, 2013 02:22 AM
Look at the way your planets deposit. Your Sun in Cancer is ruled by Moon in Libra which is ruled by Venus in Gemini which deposits to Mercury in Gemini. Uranus and Saturn in Sagitarrius are ruled by Jupiter in Taurus which is ruled by Venus in Gemini which deposits to Mercury in Gemini. Mars in Pisces is ruled by Neptune in Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn, etc. Your Pluto in Scorpio is in it's own sign. Notice how ALL your planets except for Pluto end up depositing to that Gemini Mercury? This makes Mercury your most important placement. And it's in your 9th house (your Libra ASC also ultimately deposits to that 9th house Gemini Mercury, too) so that explains why people would guess you to be a Sagitarrius. Let's see now: loves to travel, detached in relationships, analytical, etc. See how it all fits? Hope that helps you understand why you don't relate to your Sun sign.IP: Logged |
ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 558 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 26, 2013 12:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jkitty: Look at the way your planets deposit. Your Sun in Cancer is ruled by Moon in Libra which is ruled by Venus in Gemini which deposits to Mercury in Gemini. Uranus and Saturn in Sagitarrius are ruled by Jupiter in Taurus which is ruled by Venus in Gemini which deposits to Mercury in Gemini. Mars in Pisces is ruled by Neptune in Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn, etc. Your Pluto in Scorpio is in it's own sign. Notice how ALL your planets except for Pluto end up depositing to that Gemini Mercury? This makes Mercury your most important placement. And it's in your 9th house (your Libra ASC also ultimately deposits to that 9th house Gemini Mercury, too) so that explains why people would guess you to be a Sagitarrius. Let's see now: loves to travel, detached in relationships, analytical, etc. See how it all fits? Hope that helps you understand why you don't relate to your Sun sign.
I always forget to look at depositors. This makes A LOT of sense! IP: Logged |
goatcat Knowflake Posts: 791 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 26, 2013 07:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jkitty: Look at the way your planets deposit. Your Sun in Cancer is ruled by Moon in Libra which is ruled by Venus in Gemini which deposits to Mercury in Gemini. Uranus and Saturn in Sagitarrius are ruled by Jupiter in Taurus which is ruled by Venus in Gemini which deposits to Mercury in Gemini. Mars in Pisces is ruled by Neptune in Capricorn which is ruled by Saturn, etc. Your Pluto in Scorpio is in it's own sign. Notice how ALL your planets except for Pluto end up depositing to that Gemini Mercury? This makes Mercury your most important placement. And it's in your 9th house (your Libra ASC also ultimately deposits to that 9th house Gemini Mercury, too) so that explains why people would guess you to be a Sagitarrius. Let's see now: loves to travel, detached in relationships, analytical, etc. See how it all fits? Hope that helps you understand why you don't relate to your Sun sign.
That's so cool! IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 4653 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 26, 2013 08:53 PM
I was actually going to guess she portrays Sagittarian characteristics because her Sun is in the 9th, Sag's natural house.IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 26, 2013 10:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I was actually going to guess she portrays Sagittarian characteristics because her Sun is in the 9th, Sag's natural house.
Yes, and her ASC ruler is also in the 9th. But I still think it all comes down to the importance of her Mercury; that planet has a LOT of influence in her chart. Most char IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 402 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted May 26, 2013 10:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: I was actually going to guess she portrays Sagittarian characteristics because her Sun is in the 9th, Sag's natural house.
Yes, and her ASC ruler is also in the 9th. But I still think it all comes down to the importance of her Mercury; that planet has a LOT of influence in her chart. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 558 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 26, 2013 11:26 PM
I still think it's strange that I feel so disconnected from my Cancer Sun (ironically, I used the word FEEL). I was obviously born into this sign for a reason. I just don't understand why or how since I'm so driven by my Gemini placements.IP: Logged |
LovelyAries86 Knowflake Posts: 67 From: OH, USA Registered: Dec 2012
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posted May 26, 2013 11:37 PM
Elizabeth my BEST FRIEND was born on the same day as you were, just in '86. You obviously are fabulous LOL. IP: Logged |
ElizabethO Knowflake Posts: 558 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted May 26, 2013 11:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by LovelyAries86: Elizabeth my BEST FRIEND was born on the same day as you were, just in '86. You obviously are fabulous LOL.
LOL, why thank you DAHLING. IP: Logged |
goatcat Knowflake Posts: 791 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 12:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I understand how you feel so completely! You are also Libra ascending, just like me!!!! and we have the same dilemma, almost exactly the same!!! Wonder if it has something to do with the special predicament of having Libra on the rising degree? All our houses have the opposite signs. I have reached the conclusion it's a special karmic pattern and Libra is a karmic sign to have on the ascendant. It indicates being born into life with karma from another, imo, due to the signs being turned around.
Karmic pattern? IP: Logged |
AscTaurus Knowflake Posts: 602 From: Pretoria, Gauteng,South Africa Registered: May 2009
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posted May 27, 2013 07:53 AM
The Sun, to me, is about self-realization as an ever elusive point. It is an extremely personal point in our chart and it is often likely, ironically enough, that an individual may not identify with it (especially when afflicted).The Sun represents expansion. But this expansion is not the type that is discouraging and says “you’ll never get there”, but the type that changes your mind about who you are and what you can be. Before you have it realized, you come to the conclusion that there are still “more” of you to be and it is this joyful expansion that is the core of your happiness. Because happiness is the realization (ultimately) that you are not limited, that you are not one thing and it is this burst of enthusiasm that makes you want to be “more”. The reason that you don’t identify with “Cancerian” qualities strongly could be that your Sun is challenged by planets Saturn, Uranus and Neptune by opposition. Add to that, you have no other Cancer placements in your natal chart. Your Sun opposes Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. The opposition can have two extreme effects and, in other cases, a little bit of both (based on the person) and is thus, according to me, the most stressful of all aspects (surpassing the square). The Saturn/Sun opposition can, on the one hand, make one a realist. You may feel like you are on top of the world and in your element. You know your worth and the challenges that life has and you meet these with due diligence and resilience. Saturn/Sun people are not likely to complain or cry foul when things go awry. They’ve learned to just deal. On the other hand, it can also create an individual who is always anxious and has a low self-image. The questions that pre-occupy one are always linked to “competence”, “ability”and“effectiveness” “Can I do this?” the person is always asking or “This looks overwhelming, I can’t do this”. The result often produces someone with a weak nervous system and re-curing ailments brought on by stress and worry. This person has the ability to turn a mole into a mountain (so to speak) The Sun/Uranus opposition can, on the one hand, make you cringe at the idea of following the “group” mentality or aligning yourself with others. You may not like conforming and may even openly rebel against set ideas. The Uranus/Sun contact (by opposition) can make one eccentric and unconventional. Bored stiff by anything that is “normal” or groups them into a “category” or box (maybe this is also why you don’t identify with Cancerian descriptions? Because they “categorize” one into a certain segment?) On the other hand, it can also create an individual who feels “compelled” to go along with the group mentality. To them, it seems like going their own direction is just too much work and they’ll probably be met by much opposition (should they try). It can, in some cases, create someone who abhors people who step out of line or break the rules: Partly because this person projects the “rule-breaker” to the part of themselves that they are not reconciled to: Much like a closeted gay person would attack openly gay people as an attempt to disguise their own discomfort with facing their own homosexuality issues etc. The Sun/Neptune opposition can make one spiritually focused and often longing union with “other” non existing beings. It can create an idealist and a person who only wants to see the world in rose-coloured glasses. The individual may be aware of the suffering and pain and so, in an attempt to alleviate it, one often seeks solace in religion or an “all inclusive” belief system that’ll rationalize the inconstancies that one sees. On the other hand, it can also create a sceptic/cynic or someone who simply rejects “other” worldly views of the astral kind. It does not necessarily make one “”down to earth” per say, but it does infuse one with a “doubting Thomas” mentality where one wants to first “see” in order to believe. These people usually want to “feel” this connection with source itself, but there is so much distance separating the self (Sun) from the experience (Neptune), that they think it an “illusion” or some “trick” etc. As I said previously, the individual can manifest one extreme of the opposition (or both). Btw, you also have your Sun, Mercury, Venus in 9th house (hence the travelling and identification with Sag qualities).
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 1307 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 27, 2013 10:20 AM
^^^AscTaurus, even though your post isn't directed at me, I enjoy reading your insights, thanks
quote: Originally posted by goatcat: Karmic pattern?
I feel like I have one. IP: Logged | |