posted May 27, 2013 02:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I was having the same question today, and after googling a bit, it seems that the aspect, should he be still within 6 or 16 minutes of orb, though separating, is considered as perfecting.

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I read something similar. I also read that if the aspect is separating, it has already come to pass. Basically, depending on the question, it can be looked at as a yes but in the recent past. Anyone else ever read anything like that?

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Gemini Sun
Libra Moon
Gemini Mercury
Cancer Venus
Virgo Mars
Virgo Asc

posted May 28, 2013 04:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
Well, i looked again, the orb is actually 8 minutes, but it doesn't influence anything i guess. The planets involved are Mercury and Jupiter. So it applies to Lilie's theory, Jupiter is huge, after all. I'll take it as yes. So many coincidences can't be just nothing.

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The reasoning behind it that the bodies are still joined, and the separation is not visible (yet).
I liked Hera`s explanation on this though (on my thread in PR), that it signifies the intention of Mercury to leave.

It seems that you and me both have asked the question at the same time, as in my horary Mercury, my significator, is also conjunct his signigifactor Jupiter, just with a few minutes separating.

posted May 28, 2013 10:33 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The reasoning behind it that the bodies are still joined, and the separation is not visible (yet).
I liked Hera`s explanation on this though (on my thread in PR), that it signifies the intention of Mercury to leave.

It seems that you and me both have asked the question at the same time, as in my horary Mercury, my significator, is also conjunct his signigifactor Jupiter, just with a few minutes separating.

Maybe in my case it denotes a certain inner detachment from the outcome. it`s nice if it happens, and if not, well, there is always another time. lol

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posted May 28, 2013 11:51 AM            

Both, Jupiter and Venus, are ruled by Mercury, whcih translates into keenly interested in Mercury. Actually Jupiter in Gemini doesn´t even really like Venus, at least when it comes to dignities and reception.

posted May 28, 2013 12:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yes, from the horary chart it is us who have got the upper hand so to speak.

Both, Jupiter and Venus, are ruled by Mercury, whcih translates into keenly interested in Mercury. Actually Jupiter in Gemini doesn´t even really like Venus, at least when it comes to dignities and reception.

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posted May 28, 2013 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
One more question then: is 8th house used for sexual relationship? (there's no way i see this in 5th, personally for me it's always 8th)

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Sexual relationship is in both houses, 5th and 8th, (though in HOrary only the 5th is being used, as this is medieval tradition).

There are of course differences.
5th house sexual relationship is more the playful expression of your sexual Self, with or without a person. Actually there is not another person present in the 5th house, as we only MEET our significant other in the 7th house.
It relates to sex in the way, that sex can be an expression of your Self. So it is more centred on yourself than another person.

In the 8th house we have sexual intimacy, that is being SHARED with a partner, and it usually is experienced in more intense, deeper, sometimes scary (because of the intensity) way.
It is the house where the marriage becomes consummated, and very committed (including sexual intimacy).

posted May 28, 2013 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Selene:
Actually never mind, i just read that it should be always be 7th house for all relationship questions, so Jupiter is right.

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Yes, if you are asking about an "Other", it is always 7th house.

Had it been about a friend (11th house), brother (3rd house), sometimes the 5th house is being used if it is just a crush or lover; however even horary astrologers have vastly different opinions on this one, and I am for the most part agreeing with this:

"Do not, I repeat, do NOT use the 5th house to represent a person in love questions! The 5th house can describe sexual activity, but it rarely describes the person with whom you are active! A significator in the 5th shows an interest in sexual matters or light ‘fun’, rather than a serious relationship." http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782

posted May 28, 2013 01:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Yes, if you are asking about an "Other", it is always 7th house.

Had it been about a friend (11th house), brother (3rd house), sometimes the 5th house is being used if it is just a crush or lover; however even horary astrologers have vastly different opinions on this one, and I am for the most part agreeing with this:

"Do not, I repeat, do NOT use the 5th house to represent a person in love questions! The 5th house can describe sexual activity, but it rarely describes the person with whom you are active! A significator in the 5th shows an interest in sexual matters or light ‘fun’, rather than a serious relationship." http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12782

However some use the 5th house for the lvoer and seem to succeed with that. So I guess it doesn`T hurt to risk a peek at it now and then.

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