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nove731
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posted June 02, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone else have this placement? How does it play out for you?

I ask, because recently my grandfather died, and I've been slowly discovering that a lot of what what my maternal grandparents presented outwardly has been a lie. Family history for me has been mostly fabricated, and hard truths have been glossed over. Following the death of both my grandparents (my grandmother in 1997 and my grandfather in 2011), big revelations have recently been made about my origins (and potentially my citizenship), as well as in regards to the roles the figures in my family history have played.

This has happened occasionally in my life (Neptune is conjunct Uranus in my chart, which while being generational...I think still applies here, right?)...but rarely has it been so..."big" (transiting Jupiter is also sextile both of these planets, with natal Jupiter being opposed).

Anyone else have any similar experiences with this placement? That family/family history turns out to be a lot of smoke and mirrors? Or anything else, really? Haha

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charlie
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posted June 02, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I DO!!!!!!! And I have ALWAYS felt something is fishy (pun intended) with my family!! Either that I am born later than I am....or that one of my parents is not my own....I have also never felt that my Natal Chart is "me" but that my progressive chart is ME which would have me about 9-10 years younger and I also look like I am 27 and not 37.

My mother also had a son with another man she gave up custody of and she doesn't want me to find him.

So yes, I have Neptune in 4H (Sag) and have always felt something to be "off" with my family.

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LovelyKitty
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posted June 03, 2013 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyKitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A close friend of mine has this.
As I knew , her father addicted to gambling . there're an illed person in her family. Her mother must dedicated herself to work alone for children.

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Ami Anne
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posted June 03, 2013 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting comments!

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stillatlarge
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posted June 04, 2013 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it in scorpio squaring moon in the 7th. It's a ***** . Landlords suck. Alcoholic father killed when I was 9. Lying unstable selfish mother. Siblings from hell. Moved around a lot as a child. Family is a sh-t sandwich all round.

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Selene
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posted June 04, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune in 4th, nothing bad happened at home!

Yes, dad had problems with alcohol.. but i would not say that it made much problems with me. One thing that i can say - as 4th house is karma house as well, i do remember my past lives, so far - in detail 3, 2 of them proven with facts and 1 just a glimpse. And past situations coming upon me - that's a fact.

Otherwise - as 4th house also represents the end of our lives, maybe i am going to experience that when i am gray and old, lol.

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charlie
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posted June 04, 2013 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Forgot to add that I have Neptune in Sag conjunct IC but IC is in Scorpio and Uranus is there too. And yes, my mom is an alcoholic..

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sweet-scorpion
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posted June 04, 2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have the planet in the fourth but my IC is in 29 Pisces and there's just so much Piscean/Neptunian energy in my 4th.... I wanted to comment. It's interesting and sad how most of us here have had an alcoholic parent/family members from this placement. So do I. My dad, his dad, and uncle. Even some of my aunts from my mom's side. And my family is FILLED with secrets... some huge ones came out a while ago and it was shocking, about true paternity, family roots, etc. My Neptune is conjunct Uranus, also opposite 8H Mars. I've had a very, very difficult time with my family.

So I empathize with you all! I feel 4H Pisces/Neptune is one of the most disappointing placements sometimes.

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Augustina
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posted June 05, 2013 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Augustina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Neptune in Scorpio in the 4th house.

My mother is mentally not so balanced. My father is passive.

My home (my own house)is also very much an escape for me from the 'bad world'.

I love living by the sea, it's a real need, in fact.

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nove731
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posted June 05, 2013 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother is pretty unbalanced, too. She has mental health issues, and even with meds is a tad off.

I've never been prone to a need to live by the sea, though. I grew up pretty far inland. All I need is an adventure. Land or sea, it's all the same to me. (I think that's the Aries sun talking, hah).

Great comments, though, everyone!! So glad to know that Neptune wreaks its worst on all of us (jokes).

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lalalinda
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posted June 06, 2013 01:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in the 4th house can show secrets, like adoption, paternity issues, anything hidden etc.

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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted June 11, 2013 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this placement, house ruler saggitarius, squaring my virgo asc and squaring Jupiter.

Dad was a career gambler, would leave my mom for weeks to go to vegas. he wanted his obituary to read "professional gambler" and we honored his wishes when he passed. he spent his last days in the casinos of Biloxi, where he had moved to.

we never had a concrete relationship. he and mom divorced when I was 5. I could care less, because he was never home. that meant things would go on as usual. I remember shrugging. I guess that would be Neptune; foggy relationship. this lasted until my mid-thirties, when we actually began a real relationship. Thank God we let bygones be bygones before his transition.

mom has always had some mental issues, especially because of my dad leaving her and us in poverty, among other things. shes a great lady. Cancer sun never truly lets things go...

in my early 20s, my home was the go to home if you needed somewhere to stay, be it natural disaster, homelessness, house fire, etc.. my kids joke that we cant find anyone who didn't live here. I could never say no, nor did I want to say no. I chalk this up to Neptune.

interesting that we all have so much in common...

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indigomoon8
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posted June 12, 2013 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indigomoon8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in the 4th here
-Dad was an alcoholic and very very artistic
-I inherited artistic traits painting drawingetc
-Need to go to or live by oceaN
-very imaginative as child and adult lived in fantasy world
-ocean dreams
-feels more like a watery.virgo

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aquagembaby
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posted June 14, 2013 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquagembaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces rules my 4th house and I read that water is a central theme surrounding the home. I haven't lived directly near water (I was 15mins from the beach) but in the two places I've lived, there was always malfunctioning of water. Filters wouldn't work, problems with the shower, water pipes making loud noises, etc.

My mother was an art major but never did much with the degree. I know nothing about how my parents met or the details of their divorce. I never felt like I was 'in' on my family, and I have to pry for details/information. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some interesting information that reveals itself later on.

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jellyfishtry
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posted June 15, 2013 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jellyfishtry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nove731:

Anyone else have any similar experiences with this placement? That family/family history turns out to be a lot of smoke and mirrors? Or anything else, really? Haha


Am always surprised how some very 'strange' personal stories, end up being 'common' once we get into the details of astrology....i've got something real similar to yours.

the 'funniest' part of a Neptune in 4th, is everyone knows...but everyone knows to keep silent about it even better....bleh.

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