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ueharaa
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posted June 07, 2013 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have meant to discuss the use of astrology and ts impact on those who use them for quite a while.
Just to make things clear, I am not asking whether it's a sin and such. I'm just asking from your personal experience with astrology, would you say it can be potentially harmful or dangerous? Do you think one has to be warned against some misuse of it?
Also what does it bring you? How did it change, affect your life and you way of thinking?

I'm posting in this section but feel free to move it to another if it is not appropriate here.

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popcorn
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posted June 07, 2013 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
absolutley. When astro people judge people before they know the person. People who cant see the positive effect or affect. People who will excuse bad behaviour and give their chart the guilt.. When people been scared to live the life completely because some specific hard transit I see the dangerous and know it will be better to stay away from astrology...

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Jessica2407
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posted June 07, 2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with popcorn.

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.


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andstuff
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posted June 07, 2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps when people judge you by your sun sign. Or maybe overdo this astro reasoning, such as I don't know, "my feet ache because the ruler of this house squares this which is ruled by Pisces" or something, sometimes there is a non astro explanation and a non astro solution.

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posted June 07, 2013 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurus80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andstuff:
Perhaps when people judge you by your sun sign. Or maybe overdo this astro reasoning, such as I don't know, "my feet ache because the ruler of this house squares this which is ruled by Pisces" or something, sometimes there is a non astro explanation and a non astro solution.
agree

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posted June 07, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and theres people like me who get way overly obsessed with astrology, destroying their connection with the VISIBLE evident reality before them, building a world in their heads of how each astrological feeling is affecting themselves, and trying to understand how peoples planets in which signs make them behave how they do

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posted June 07, 2013 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ueharaa:
I'm just asking from your personal experience with astrology, would you say it can be potentially harmful or dangerous? Do you think one has to be warned against some misuse of it?


no

unless one is crazy and cannot apply personal judgment to a situation.

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Jessica2407
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posted June 07, 2013 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
and theres people like me who get way overly obsessed with astrology, destroying their connection with the VISIBLE evident reality before them, building a world in their heads of how each astrological feeling is affecting themselves, and trying to understand how peoples planets in which signs make them behave how they do

Perhaps your post wasn't intended to provide a comedy relief,but it made me laugh


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ueharaa
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posted June 07, 2013 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your answers are all interesting so far and I am glad to see I agree with most of you.
I personally believe that astrology can be incredibly insightful, sometimes in an uncanny, frightening way, however I do think that it's best if one sets boundaries or at least really defines what it is they believe in before taking it further.

As far as my own experience, I can say that I have given a lot of credit to astrology analysis relating to relationships. Especially on the soulmate, karma subject. And I can now say that even if the aspects look promising or there seems to be odd coincidence in synastry analysis, one always has to put the reality of a situation first.

It may sound really stupid but I do think there is a real risk with astrology to believe that what it shows is the reality, the future, and promise of a situation when it's not. And it can be about natal aspects, a transit, a synastry or composite aspect. I don't think it makes atrology wrong or one crazy, I think it is due to the fact that despite getting knowledge, this knowledge is still limited and one may not understand it the right way.

I also think there can be a tendency to fatalism with astrology.

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Randall
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posted June 07, 2013 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some may judge others by their Sun Sign, but can Astrology be dangerous? No way. I don't see it.

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ueharaa
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posted June 07, 2013 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I realize I certainly have worded the name of thread the wrong way. I didn't mean astrology in itself but what people use it for or when people it can give them everything there is to know about a person or situation.

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posted June 07, 2013 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
im glad i humoured you.

Yes i agree full heartedly uehaara. The knoedge is limited. We are humans that are just reading words on a screen or paper and perhaps giving it more credit and interest then it really deserves. Our brains were meant to take in full information in reality meaning with our senses and experience and understanding of the world. That is where we can understand things best. But with astrology we may get too involved with concepts and descriptions and lose ourselves. Im speaking for myself anyway

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posted June 07, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good points, ueharaa

I think God made it in such a way, that noone in no way can predict the future. It's no wonder astrology can be interpreted in so many different ways and the end result is apparent and quite obvious but only after the fact and almost never before.

One thing I found out about predictive astrology is that if the current transits and progressions are all right with no hard aspects going on, a life crisis of any kind is highly unlikely.

For example, a few months ago I felt a small lump in my breast which scared the heck out of me. I went for a mamogram and i received a call from the radiology that I had to go back and do more mamograms, and an ultrasound, because they said there's soemthing there. Which scared the heck out of me twice. I ran to the computer and checked my transits for the day of the second mamogram, checked my progressions as well. The transist reflected the entire situation - on that day TR Mercury was going to square natal Pluto/Mercury, which showed my anxiety over the news and the situation. But...the TR Moon was making a nice trine to my Mercury and my Pluto and I didn't have any hard transits whatsoever during that entire month and no hard transists between outer/natal planets for a long period ahead. My progressions were fairly ineventful except some happy stuff awaiting to happen, like an upcoming Sun/Venus/ASC conjunction next year or so. When I saw this, especially the transits, I always look at the transits for upcoming events, I knew in my heart that the second mamogram was going to be okay and I didn't have cancer. In no way i would have had served the news of a cancer and the crisis wouldn't show up in my charts. I was relaxed the days before the mamo ( with occasional panic moments here and then) and if it wasn't for my beloved astrology, I would have gone bersek with anxiety... like the other ladies with gloomy and pale faces waiting for their second mamograms in the waiting room. They didn't know, but I knew. I love me astrology. ;-)

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posted June 07, 2013 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces-Sweety     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it ends up consuming you, affecting the way you think of others to the very core. I always take a break from it. I never let it affect my judgement of people.

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posted June 07, 2013 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astrology is a tool, and every tool can be used in constructive ways or as a weapon.

So yes, it can be dangerous, but not really astrology itself, but the use or misuse of it.

Besides the judgementalism that can come with it (in the minds of some people at least), the justification of intolerance and narrowmindedness, another source of possible danger is the superficial only halfunderstood application of it, leading to sweeping generalizations about a certain sign or placement, which is ripped totally out of context, and a third one holds maybe the greatest danger, a total dependence and blind faith, not necessarily into the astrology, but into the astrologer.
NEVER do that. After all every astrologer is just human, (no matter how enlightened they claim to be), they can offer their knowledge and perspective and ability to connect some dots, but it is never a 100%, and even though there may be one truth, everyone just glimpses a piece of it.

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Jessica2407
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posted June 07, 2013 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ as some people put their blind faith in tarot readers/psychics. I know some folks who do not take any decision unless their psychic gives them the green light.

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posted June 08, 2013 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange I'm glad you're okay.


I agree with you guys.
Astrology is a great tool but when misused, it can lead to a lot of misjudgements about people / situations. I think that's the biggest risk when studying astrology - misunderstandings and hasty judgements / justifications. Unfounded fears and anxieties can be part of it, too (like hard aspects in synastry, composite, or transit.. boy, do people freak out whenever they see a square / opposition!). And the other way around - illusions, unfounded hopes (when we see good aspects, we tend to think something great is gonna happen, and then get disappointed when nothing huge happens).

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posted June 08, 2013 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tgem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is all very interesting.. I agree with so many points that people have made. Here's my take/example: I've had two life-altering experiences over the last five years, the last one in the last three that has rocked me to my core (along with my family life.). I came to astrology looking for answers because I went into a serious depression and I couldn't process my feelings. (Turns out I have an unaspected moon in the 12th, along with venus, go figure.). So it helped me understand a lot of things..also that I had (and still do) multiple hard transits going on: Tpluto square pluto in the 7th, Tsaturn conjunct uranus in the 5th, Tchiron square venus in the 12th and Tmars conjunct moon in the 12th. Ugh...not an easy time in my life, but at least I was able to find a source to why my life was falling apart. However, although astrology explained a lot of things with synastry, transits etc. there is still a cold hard reality in front of me of which may not change. That's where I see the difficulty in it. It can explain things, give potentials, verify soulmates etc. but it's not meant to predict the future and sometimes cold hard reality staring you in the face can be a difficult pill to swallow, no matter what the charts say. So not that it can be dangerous but it can also tell you something you don't want to hear and affect you negatively depending on how you process things.

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geea
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posted June 09, 2013 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it can be: see this http://digitaljournal.com/article/315132

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Moon is Lunatic
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posted June 09, 2013 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by geea:
it can be: see this http://digitaljournal.com/article/315132

Oh dear...

Obsessing about something can never be healthy.

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Moon is Lunatic
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posted June 09, 2013 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Oh dear...

Obsessing about something can never be healthy.


By the way, I thought they use Chinese astrology there?

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