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Topic: What's the deal with the formation of a kite in a composite?
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Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 04:57 AM
  
How do you interpret it?What does it mean to have a kite in composite? say a kite with moon in 1st(aries)-neptune 9th( sag)-saturn 5th ( leo).
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Doux Rêve
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posted June 10, 2013 05:32 AM
Is it really a Kite?
Cause if there are only 3 planets in the mix, it's probably a Grand Trine (no opposing planet).Anyway, Moon in good aspect with Saturn and Neptune is a very good thing, it makes feelings quite stable without having a restricting effect. And with Neptune, there's much sensitivity and gentleness involved. Saturn brings responsibility and stability - you can count on each other, and it's not a superficial thing. It may be quite easy to share dreams and feelings with each other, there's an easy flow of energy when it comes to your nurturing/emotional side. Fire signs are intuitive and confident / optimistic, so there's a good amount of energy and inspiration.
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Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 07:00 AM
Opposing planet - Moon opposes plutopluto sextile neptune and saturn. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 07:02 AM
So what's the difference between Grand trine and Kite?IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 10, 2013 07:13 AM
Oh, that changes things a bit.Well, it's pretty easy to understand - there's an element of discord in the mix. So with Pluto opposing the Moon, it can mean emotional insecurity and everything that follows - clinginess, manipulation, drama, emotional ups and downs and outbursts, guilt trips, etc. It shouldn't be that bad though, because the Moon and Pluto are supported by Saturn and Neptune, so there are ways to express the energy in more positive ways - for example, by dealing with things in a mature way, fixing boundaries and structure (Saturn) or by turning to a more compassionate, spiritual approach that focused on gentleness and forgiveness (Neptune). Basically in a Kite, there's more energy than in a simple Grand Trine, because of the opposition aspect. Which doesn't have to bed bad - it can make things more interesting and less settled or boring. Plus, on the good side, Moon/Pluto points to deep feelings, awareness of the emotional states, deep care and trust, emotional honesty.
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Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 07:19 AM
I suppose it also makes a difference that composite moon is in first house and composite pluto is in the 7th ,ya?Does the 1st house represents how the couple is perceived by others? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 10, 2013 07:32 AM
The way I see it, Moon in 1st means you are very emotional towards each other, it's they way you react to one another, the general, visible characteristic of your relationship - care, nurturing, feelings, touchiness and maybe oversensitivity.The opposition to Pluto in the 7th could mean that most conflicts arise because of insecurity related to other people, "threats" (Pluto) that are outside the relationship (7th house). So, to others, you may come across as very exclusive, possessive of each other, unwilling to "share" each other, a sort of us against them mentality (this is all generalisations, with the easier aspects you have it probably won't be that extreme). But yes, outside threats could become a problem, especially for the woman (Moon) who identifies with the relationship very strongly (ASC), which can make her insecure, clingy or jealous (Moon/Pluto affliction). Does it make sense to you?
It may take some time to manifest that way, by the way. So if it's a new relationship, you probably won't see the negative effects that much.
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Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 07:42 AM
^^ Yeah it does..I was wondering about how pluto plays out it being in the kite formation since composite sun is in scorpio.Actually we have a 8H stellium scorp. Does it also indicate that we can be powerful together? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 10, 2013 08:39 AM
8th house can point to deep, psychological stuff that you experience when you're together. The subonscious / unconscious is easily triggered, and by relating to each other, you can work on inner conflicts and tensions as they come up.Basically, there's potential for healing, purification of old conditioning, transformation. But before that, you'll probably have to deal with some unpleasant feelings / reactions.
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posted June 10, 2013 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
What does it mean to have a kite in composite?
It means that the composite planets are dispersed all over the chart, and for a composite, this is not a good sign, since the most important aspects in a composite are the conjunctions and the oppositions. A Kite, otherwise, is a very favorable geomethrical formation showing compatibility which is not as stale as a Grand trine, since there is an opposition involved. Better to see that in a synastry chart, though. Like i said, conjunctions and oppositions are important in the composite. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 10, 2013 12:11 PM
Hmm, I think it's still a good thing to have a Kite in a composite, well it's probably better than a T-square or no aspects at all.Trines may not be as powerful as conjunctions but personally I find them to be quite strong and pleasant. Plus they have a stellium in Scorpio in the 8th, so that adds some spice 
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tgem
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posted June 10, 2013 12:15 PM
I'm confused.... I know that it's not necessarily good when you have a composite with the planets scattered all over the place, but I thought a grand trine and even a kite in the composite would be really good because trines are a flowing aspect with the opposition of the kite giving it a little spunk as to not make things so boring....I have a fire grand trine kite with soulmate in the composite along with a grand trine kite and a Yod in our progressed composite. So does this mean it's bad? @Jess, I have the same fire grand trine kite in my composite as you with all the same planets except the tip of our trine is SN Aries instead of the moon. The pluto opposition of our kite actually conjuncts our NN as well. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 10, 2013 12:20 PM
Everyone has their opinion on what's "good" in composite charts, but there's no right or wrong. To each his own.Personally, I think trines are good, powerful aspects. I like seeing them in charts. Of course if there are only trines, you're probably gonna be bored out of your mind, eh. So dynamic aspects are a plus, when there aren't too many of them. Ps. The Nodes can't be part of a formation, they're not a planet.
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tgem
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posted June 10, 2013 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Everyone has their opinion on what's "good" in composite charts, but there's no right or wrong. To each his own.Personally, I think trines are good, powerful aspects. I like seeing them in charts. Of course if there are only trines, you're probably gonna be bored out of your mind, eh. So dynamic aspects are a plus, when there aren't too many of them. Ps. The Nodes can't be part of a formation, they're not a planet.
Oops, you're right Doux, i forgot nodes don't count so no grand trine kite in our composite but DEFINITELY one in our progressed composite with saturn, neptune and mercury making the fire trine and jupiter opposing forming the kite...and the Yod is still there with jupiter, mercury and mars in scorpio at the apex. ..sorry if I invaded your thread Jess, just found this to be very interesting and similar to my situation  IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 12:38 PM
I'm a little confused too. I was reading about kites in composite charts.So far I've found only positive feedback.I was therefore curious to know how a kite formation manifest itself in a relationship.The stellium composed of Sun,Mercury,Uranus,NN and mars. Sun conjunct mercury,venus conjunct jupiter,sun conjunct NN,among other conjunctions. So a kite formation doesn't necessarily rule out the possibilities of having conjunctions and oppositions in a composite. @tgem, how do you experience the energy of the kite? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by tgem:
Oops, you're right Doux, i forgot nodes don't count so no grand trine kite in our composite but DEFINITELY one in our progressed composite with saturn, neptune and mercury making the fire trine and jupiter opposing forming the kite...and the Yod is still there with jupiter, mercury and mars in scorpio at the apex...sorry if I invaded your thread Jess, just found this to be very interesting and similar to my situation
oh not at all! Please feel free to invade I didn't know the nodes couldn't be part of a trine/kite! I need to check our progressed composite..
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posted June 10, 2013 01:03 PM
don't forget, you guys, that the Composite is made of midpoints, not actual planets, and midpoints do not feel much about trines;
mostly triggered by hard aspects, with conjunctions and oppositions being the most felt of all.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted June 10, 2013 01:07 PM
Progressed composite,we have moon trine neptune,saturn trine neptune, moon conjunct saturn. Sun conjunct mars,mercury,neptune.moon sq jupiter,mercury conjunct mars.mars conjunct neptune...IP: Logged |
Freesia
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posted June 10, 2013 03:18 PM
What would mean Saturn trine Neptun but opposite Mars in a composite?
Does this trine soften opposition?IP: Logged |
tgem
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posted June 10, 2013 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I'm a little confused too. I was reading about kites in composite charts.So far I've found only positive feedback.I was therefore curious to know how a kite formation manifest itself in a relationship.The stellium composed of Sun,Mercury,Uranus,NN and mars. Sun conjunct mercury,venus conjunct jupiter,sun conjunct NN,among other conjunctions. So a kite formation doesn't necessarily rule out the possibilities of having conjunctions and oppositions in a composite. @tgem, how do you experience the energy of the kite?
Ummm, well here's what I do know. I can definitely feel the fire when were together..there's a lot of energy, whether we're laughing together or steaming at each other! We have a TON of fun together and there's a lot of intuitiveness between us, but we also have moon conjunct neptune in synastry. I feel there is definitely a telepathic link. I think I feel the jupiter opposition the most..when we're interacting, it's like we're larger than life and people can see the energy between us! IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted June 11, 2013 01:04 AM
^^ can relate.IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted July 25, 2013 04:25 PM
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peachbeigeblue
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posted July 25, 2013 06:42 PM
I have a kite in my composite with my boyfriend.
I found this thread when I was looking about information on this today.Of course, my first search was "diamond in a composite chart" because that's how i always looked at it... didn't connect it with the kite because i'm out of my mind. Anyways, I figured it was worth following up on the chart formation because this relationship is the most loving relationship I have ever been in. The first person I could see myself spending the rest of my life with. It makes more sense now how the Pluto opposite Moon in composite is softened (the spine of the kite). I think I can still detect the aspect in the composite somewhat, my doing - really. It is definitely buffered though. Has this been the experience for anyone else with the composite kite? The kite is comprised as follows:
Scorpio Pluto (chart ruler) in 12th opposite Taurus Moon in 6th (conjunct DC)
Pluto trine Pisces Mars in 4th and Cancer Mercury in 8th.
Mercury trine Mars
Moon sextile Mercury and Mars a couple other notes: mars is conjunct NN exact
moon is conjunct jupiter but would not aspect as part of the kite
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