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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HELP IM HAVING SERIOUS MENTAL PROBLEMS IM WONDERING WHAT ASPECTS CAUSE THIS THANKS

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posted June 12, 2013 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Member     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a) Negative aspects to the ruling planet or planets in the 1st house
b) Negative aspects to the Moon
c) Negative aspects to Mercury
d) Negative aspects to the Ascendant

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PROBLEM SOLVED THANKS

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ONE MORE QUESTION, WHICH ASPECTS CAUSE AUTISM? I THINK I MIGHT HAVE IT. IF I STUDY THE ASPECTS THAT CAUSE IT, I CAN COUNTER THE EFFECTS BY DOING THE OPPOSITE OF THE DOWNFALLS DESCRIBED IN THE ASPECTS

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posted June 12, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol
Well I Read Somewhere That Oppositions With Moon And Saturn May Cause Autism.

Oh can you post your chart, or give us a link?
(I'm requesting it out of curiosity, so its not a personal reading, mods)

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here you go
http://astrotheme.com/chart/ZQLjZwR5BGRjAGZ1ZQNjZQRjZQNkZmR4AQx.png

also, Im joking about my request. Im actually poking fun at people who think astrology aspects are the cause of some problems or things which actually just depend on whats going on in a persons life circumstances, but i actually am having mental problems, but maybe thats just cause i sit around all day and barely learn anything new, and if i do have autism, i have 100% faith that if i really wanted to i could just relax my brain and let myself percieve reality in a more normal and whole way, but i like my thin line of thought that lets me narrowly focus on subjects without seeing the bigger picture of "all of reality"...

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posted June 12, 2013 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, I think mental illness is mostly hereditary.
Thou just like drugs, I think certain aspects may trigger an illness.

Mercury and saturn conjunct with your asc stick out to me.
Maybe with saturn/mercury you maybe reluctant to express your with others.
Possibly an awkward communicator?

The all caps did throw me off a little, ahaha

I don't really see anything else.
I've had friends with moon conjunct pluto and some of them have or had thoughts and attempted suicide. They've gone through severe depression. Can you relate?

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah im sure aspects can cause some things, but they are only a small affect compared to everything else thats affecting a person in life. just how powerful and important is astrology in deciphering the every day matters that go on in a persons life? can astrology tell me why im depressed? no.. hm.. astrology is clearly quite influencial on a persons personality..... but is it as influencial as we think..... when you put all importance into astrology, and not into other things, it can make it seem more important than it is...

and at times i can be awkward.. and at times i can be so sly and clever and unawkward in conversations with multiple people.. it can be one or the other.. just like anyone else im sure

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posted June 12, 2013 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 11nahyt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lmao I spit my juice all over the place at your "thanks problem solved" reply. I was like "seriously?!, that's all it took?".. The title of this topic alone, made me roll my eyes... I totally thought you were one of those "types" of people lol

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posted June 12, 2013 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's as important as you want it to be.
You can glide through life with out ever learning about astrology, or you can cheat a little .
I think the advantage of astrology is self awareness if you're aware of possible negative personality traits, you'll be able to control them when they manifest in your life.

If you know you are potentially susceptible to depression you can keep on top of that.

personally I don't use astrology for my everyday life.
I study it because it interests me.
I don't use synastry all the time and I check my transits once a month.

I should probably my transits more but sometimes I'm to lazy to evaluate them. I have noticed the predicated end results of that transits have taken place.

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe. Im glad to make anyone laugh. I just dont see how people can really rely on astrological aspects to tell them why certain things are happening in life. Like the thread about what aspects cause girls to not like to wear make up. I just think that astrology would have a small amount to do with why they dont choose to wear make up. But i might be wrong.. I just figured that lots of the ones who didnt were less feminine, because of their chemical disposition when they were born that perhaps gave them more masculine traits.

And 2 of my best friends also have moon close or conjuct pluto.. and we are all depressed... but thats not why i'm depressed... theres a number of reasons why im depressed... but that aspect alone i think has little to do with it

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posted June 12, 2013 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So you asked this question just to poke fun at people? lol that made me laugh .

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posted June 12, 2013 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're an interesting troll, you admit having the traits corresponding to the aspects you possess yet you debunk aspects having any influence over us...

You just seem confused about the concept of astrology lol.
whatever after all it is a belief system, i guess.

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posted June 12, 2013 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hm well thats cool... when i first learned about astrology, it didnt help me with much. it was just like, "moon conjunct pluto in scorpio," this means i can see into a persons soul and connect with them and have a powerful emotional influence over people. after that all i did was stare way deeper into peoples eyes because thats all i could think about was that aspect. it caused me to exaggerate whatever traits were actually there. I never actually stared into peoples souls THAT deeply. but after reading that paragraph, i did... so basically from reading astrology it convinced me i was something that i really wasnt. I let it get to me too much. And mars square venus is trouble with woman apparently. I thought me holding myself back with woman and not be as aggressive as i wanted to be, was all because of this aspect, and that this is why i have trouble with girls and so i imagined myself as some victim and dwelled on that aspect every time i was annoyed with a girl

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
You're an interesting troll, you admit having the traits corresponding to the aspects you possess yet you debunk aspects having any influence over us...

You just seem confused about the concept of astrology lol.
whatever after all it is a belief system, i guess.


What traits have I admitted to having? That Im awkward in conversation? Cause I said I can be awkward or not awkward at all, just like any human being can. So that was disregarding the aspect. And the moon conjunct pluto thing, like I said thats not why im depressed. I have other friends who are depressed too who dont have that aspect. I just hang out with depressed people. And I know a guy who has the aspect who is not depressed. SO THUR

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posted June 12, 2013 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:

And 2 of my best friends also have moon close or conjuct pluto.. and we are all depressed... but thats not why i'm depressed... theres a number of reasons why im depressed... but that aspect alone i think has little to do with it


You need to work on your communication. You're treating an astrological aspects as the this singularity, in reality it manifests in many different ways. Not everyone will be a victim, but like I said before it's like a trigger, SO THURR
That mercury conjunct saturn is in full effect.
Have fun with that

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posted June 12, 2013 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
So you asked this question just to poke fun at people? lol that made me laugh .

Yes. Anyway. For now Im abandoning astrology. Its true, I believe. But Im too obsessed with it. It was fun while it lasted. But through life experiences and people will I learn the most about myself. Not from a paragraph telling me about how I have a heightened sense of drama, how I'm deep, shy, and detached. It doesnt help. All it does is tell me what I am. Now what? Try to be less dramatic, more outgoing, more attached? Idk if thats what your supposed to do, but I'd rather just live my life naturally. So I got to let astrology go. Maybe its because of a couple things in scorpio that when I do something new, I either go all out or dont do it at all. That happened when I became a vegetarian. Quit eating meat cold turkey. And when I stopped using the computer because I thought it was messing up my learning processes and detaching me from reality. I just got rid of my computer. So thats what im doing now I guess. I'd rather just not think about it at all. So goodbye astrology, linda goodman (my hero) and forum goers. I was here for a few days. But this is farewell. Ahohohohohooo o o o o o o o

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soren
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posted June 12, 2013 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
You need to work on your communication. You're treating an astrological aspects as the this singularity, in reality it manifests in many different ways. Not everyone will be a victim, but like I said before it's like a trigger, SO THURR
That mercury conjunct saturn is in full effect.
Have fun with that


Well, isnt it an unlikely claim to say that most people with the aspect of moon conjunct pluto go through depression? Or even an excessive claim to say that people with this aspect go through more depression than anyone else? Why? Well dont most people go through a state of depression at some time in their life? Are people with this aspect going to be depressed their whole life, or just for a short part of their life, like anyone else? Do we actually have any proof that there is a higher rate of people who are depressed who have this aspect? Or are just as many people depressed with any other aspect in astrology? Does astrology deserve any credence of why someone could be depressed in life? Do we have proof? Hows that for communicating? Thats just how I think and I dont want to draw conclusions of anything unless I'm sure.

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posted June 12, 2013 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venusian Moon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You're an interesting troll

Roflllllll!!!!!!!

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Ami Anne
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posted June 12, 2013 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus conj Mercury, square or oppose, in very close aspect

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posted June 12, 2013 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soren,

Just relax, buddy.

You can get way too carried away by over-thinking so much.

Astrology works, but only if you have enough knowledge and understanding of it.

And don't worry, I think most of us here used to be obsessed with charts and aspects, at first. I know I was, to the point of actually driving myself paranoid.

Seems like that's what you're going through, and that obsessive Moon/Pluto/Sun T-square ain't helping.

But don't give up just yet, take a break if you need to, but keep in mind that with time, you'll be less inclined to ask yourself so many questions and obsess over it pointlessly. It will get easier, more natural. Less overwhelming. Just wait and see.

It truly is a valuable tool, so use it wisely.

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charlie
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posted June 12, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having a Virgo ascendant will do it.

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posted June 12, 2013 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dp

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posted June 12, 2013 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Member:
a) Negative aspects to the ruling planet or planets in the 1st house
b) Negative aspects to the Moon
c) Negative aspects to Mercury
d) Negative aspects to the Ascendant

I have all of that but usually keep my act together. I'm glad that astrology is not destiny.

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posted June 12, 2013 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Uranus conj Mercury, square or oppose, in very close aspect

Well I can't be the best judge of my own character, but I have Mercury in Aquarius square Scorpio in Uranus, 1 degree orb. While I am eccentric, I never feel like I am coming unglued. Maybe because both Mercury and Uranus are exalted in these signs, that gives me an "out."

Also, they form a fixed t-square with Leo Saturn. That calms the energy, I suspect.

I would think Mercury square Uranus in mutable signs would make one's head spin more than mine does.

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