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Topic: Aspects that can make or break a relationship.
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orocairion Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2013
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posted June 12, 2013 05:08 PM
Usually when people think about compatibility they seem to refer to the sun signs most of the time and a few other things. But I was wondering; what aspects between two people's charts can make or break a relationship between them, above any other aspect in their respective birthcharts? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 1744 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 12, 2013 05:10 PM
Most people will say Neptune in aspect to something like Venus, maybe Mars, moon or sun in the other. It means one or both are either dishonest or too lukewarm about the relationship. Mars squares/oppositions can mean too much anger between the two. I find Saturn aspects and the nodes to be significant in a long lasting relationship of some kind, like a friendship, even if Saturn is in opposition. IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 3174 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 12, 2013 05:54 PM
Hello orocairion! Welcome to LL
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 3636 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 12, 2013 06:01 PM
SSS Anything can break a relationship. Not enough aspects, too many hard aspects, too many soft apects, too much Saturn / Neptune / Uranus / Pluto, and so on.
It grealty depends on the natal chart, what some people may find horrible, others will find comfortable and safe. Imagine a very Saturnian person with tons of Neptune or Uranus in synastry... they'll go mad! And imagine the reverse - a freedom-loving Uranian confined to a Saturnian relationship.. Same goes for what makes a relationship.. too many things to consider. Mirrored natal charts (people who have aspects with the same planets, for example), strong house overlays, strong angles activity (or angular houses), progressed planets that aspect each other and generate interest, etc. IP: Logged |
Jkitty Knowflake Posts: 514 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 12, 2013 08:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: SSS Anything can break a relationship. Not enough aspects, too many hard aspects, too many soft apects, too much Saturn / Neptune / Uranus / Pluto, and so on.
It grealty depends on the natal chart, what some people may find horrible, others will find comfortable and safe. Imagine a very Saturnian person with tons of Neptune or Uranus in synastry... they'll go mad! And imagine the reverse - a freedom-loving Uranian confined to a Saturnian relationship.. Same goes for what makes a relationship.. too many things to consider. Mirrored natal charts (people who have aspects with the same planets, for example), strong house overlays, strong angles activity (or angular houses), progressed planets that aspect each other and generate interest, etc.
I agree with all that. I'd also include the maturity of the individuals. I think a lot of relationships are lost due to youthful foolishness, projecting your own issues onto someone else, not taking responsibility for yourself, not knowing what you've got 'til it's gone. Everything up until the Saturn return teaches you how to handle your chart. Prior to that, it's too easy to mess up what could have been a really good relationship. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 3636 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 12, 2013 08:33 PM
Oh yes, Jkitty, I agree with you.IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 2514 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 13, 2013 07:39 AM
*I'm a person who has strong Saturnian influence,who has tons of both neptune and uranus aspects ha,I almost forgot my Hades moon. IP: Logged |
tgem Knowflake Posts: 308 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 02:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Jessica2407: *I'm a person who has strong Saturnian influence,who has tons of both neptune and uranus aspects ha,I almost forgot my Hades moon.
I am too!! So the aspects in the synastry/composite depend on if the person has the natal aspects or not. That can determine how used to the energy they are. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407 Knowflake Posts: 2514 From: Saturn Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 01:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by tgem: I am too!! So the aspects in the synastry/composite depend on if the person has the natal aspects or not. That can determine how used to the energy they are.
It's got to be all or nothing ya? If the other persons have similar uranian and neptunian but lacks Saturn influence I think it won't last for long. I think Saturn is the stickiest glue ever.lol IP: Logged |
Haplesschild* Knowflake Posts: 869 From: Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 02:19 AM
I think bad mercury aspects would break it quickly, unless the relationship is just purely based on physical aspects? I can't imagine being able to last with somebody who had a mercury squaring mine.Eek. IP: Logged |
Bardophile Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 07:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: I think bad mercury aspects would break it quickly, unless the relationship is just purely based on physical aspects? I can't imagine being able to last with somebody who had a mercury squaring mine.Eek.
oh no! my mercury squares my bf's mercury and it's an exact orb. IP: Logged |
sillyme Knowflake Posts: 182 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 10:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Bardophile: oh no! my mercury squares my bf's mercury and it's an exact orb.
Do you Enjoy this aspect or Resent it? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 3636 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 14, 2013 10:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by Haplesschild*: I think bad mercury aspects would break it quickly, unless the relationship is just purely based on physical aspects? I can't imagine being able to last with somebody who had a mercury squaring mine.
This has proved true, ime. Me and my ex had terrible Mercury aspects both in synastry and in composite and it eventually became unbearable (quite quickly, by the way).
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Bardophile Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 12:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by sillyme: Do you Enjoy this aspect or Resent it?
at first i was really bothered when i saw that we had this aspect. We talk about a lot of things but we seem to hit a dead end whenever we try to talk about our feelings. He has mercury in aquarius, i have it in scorpio. He is definitely more rational than i am. He always wants to know how i feel so he can 'psychoanalyze' me (yep, that's the word he really used). It's obviously easy for me to talk about my feelings, but he rarely talks about his. We've been together for almost 2 years and it worries me that i never really know what he feels. He told me that it had never occured to him to talk about his feelings. I guess we neither enjoy nor resent this aspect. He wants me to be more detached instead of being too wrapped up in my emotions. I want him to be more in touch with his emotions. This aspect is teaching us to meet halfway, which is a good thing. Our composite mercury aspects are quite good though. IP: Logged |
sillyme Knowflake Posts: 182 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 02:18 PM
quote: Originally posted by Bardophile: at first i was really bothered when i saw that we had this aspect. We talk about a lot of things but we seem to hit a dead end whenever we try to talk about our feelings. He has mercury in aquarius, i have it in scorpio. He is definitely more rational than i am. He always wants to know how i feel so he can 'psychoanalyze' me (yep, that's the word he really used). It's obviously easy for me to talk about my feelings, but he rarely talks about his. We've been together for almost 2 years and it worries me that i never really know what he feels. He told me that it had never occured to him to talk about his feelings. I guess we neither enjoy nor resent this aspect. He wants me to be more detached instead of being too wrapped up in my emotions. I want him to be more in touch with his emotions. This aspect is teaching us to meet halfway, which is a good thing. Our composite mercury aspects are quite good though.
Thanks How are your moons aspected in synastry? IP: Logged |
Bardophile Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 18, 2013 03:56 AM
You're welcome! My moon doesn't make any aspect to his moon, but they're both in earth signs.IP: Logged |
orocairion Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: May 2013
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posted June 18, 2013 02:41 PM
Thanks a lot for your replies. Some very interesting insight. There usually seems to be a bit of a difference when you read both charts in isolation and when put together in a composite chart. For example, the guy venus and mercury are in sagittarius and his mars on scorpio while the girl's mercury and venus are in virgo and her mars is in Sagittarius. From what little I know(not much at all, lol) that seems to be a bit messy but seeing the composite and what its being said, there is much more to it than just the signs, right?. What should be more relevant when it comes to undertanding the potential to last of a relationship, a composite chart or the interaction between the separate charts?. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 3636 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 19, 2013 02:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by orocairion: What should be more relevant when it comes to undertanding the potential to last of a relationship, a composite chart or the interaction between the separate charts?.
Both. But the composite better be good, otherwise the relationship won't feel good to one or both of them, even if they have feelings for each other. IP: Logged |