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Topic: Taurus and Virgo
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Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 10:56 PM
  
After reading some books and a few websites, I've been thinking, what if this "new planet" which I'll call "Persefoni" (keeping Roman tradition, Proserpina) we haven't discovered yet is the True Ruler of Taurus? And if it is, then what would the True Ruler of Virgo be?------------------
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Randall
Webmaster Posts: 28804
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2013 11:04 PM
According to some, we have two undiscovered Planets in our solar system (perhaps masked by the gravity and/or orbital patterns of other Planets). Pan-Horus rules Taurus, and Vulcan is the true Ruler of Virgo.IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 2382
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 13, 2013 11:06 PM
I believe in the true rulerships.For instant if someone has taurus rising the chart ruler would be venus and so the condition of venus would used a predication for their whole chart. Astrologers having been using these methods for centuries. The rulerships obviously work, so I don't really see a need to make new rulerships because it sounds cooler lol. I dont think it works like that.
Unless it's all a fluke, if that's true than astrology it's self is a joke... Also according to esoteric astrology vulcan is the ruler of taurus. People are always thinking up of new rulerships, just like Eris ruling libra. It's like a game. -_- I'll zero faith in astrology if these rulerships take over, I doubt that will happen. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 11:33 PM
I'm not thinking that'll happen either. Yes, Eris does have significance in relation to Ares-Mars, but it doesn't keep the axis' theme of "I vs. We" (Aries-Libra), just like Hephaistos-Vulcanus doesn't fit the "Having vs. Letting Go" (Taurus-Scorpius), but I can see some of it relating to "Service vs. Sacrifice" (Virgo-Pisces). But then what about the archetype of the Virgin?------------------
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 2382
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 13, 2013 11:41 PM
not to mention the planets rule both masculine and feminine signs. Taurus is the yin side of venus and libra is the yang.same goes for virgo/gemini I do think it's possible for these minor planets and asteroids to be comfortable in a certain sign. It may feel at home it channel its energy more positively and strongly. IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 11:47 PM
All seven had Yin and Yang Signs... if you count Apollo and Artemis as one light with different Polarities.
I also want to mention:
Hermes-Pallas-Ouranos
Aphrodite-Dimitra-Poseidonas
Ares-Hestia-Hades
Dios-Astraia
Kronos-Hera
From what I've read, this "Persefoni" has traits of both Aphrodite and Kronos, plus the other Planet. If the Outers are higher octaves of the Inners, then the last two should fit the left over spots, shouldn't they?------------------
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somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 1259
From: walking with my head in the clouds!
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 13, 2013 11:52 PM
Things to consider...Ceres for Virgo: give and take concerning other people, service and nourishment
Eris for Libra: themes of permanent difference between people, existence arising to counter something else Like the other signs that received new ruling planets, the traditional rulers don't lose power! Mars is still in domicile when placed in Scorpio, it's just a different facet of domicile.  IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 13, 2013 11:59 PM
Yes, that's true they don't. I'm a bit hesitant about putting Dimitra as the Ruler of Virgo though; I read in Demetra George's "Asteroid Goddesses", George-san states she has traits associated with Taurus, Cancer, and Virgo. And Eris ruling Libra seems a bit contradictory, seeing Eris starts conflict and is the goddess of chaos, whereas Libra doesn't like confrontation and wants to unify opposing ideas.------------------
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 2382
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 12:06 AM
I've actually know a lot of libras that brew up trouble when they're angry or plain bored.My dad has moon in libra and if he's in a sour mood he'll stir the pot for his own satisfaction. He'll purposely say or do things that **** you off.
Librans are not perfect little flowers.
Sorry about it.
Eris was not directly confrontational too.
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Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 14, 2013 12:45 AM
I know what your saying is right. My brother will "let something slip", and before you know it, the entire house is arguing over what's right and who's wrong. Eh... maybe you're right, after all she did start the Trojan War with a "just" golden apple.------------------
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soren
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: vancouver, bc, canada
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 12:54 AM
I believe that the 12 zodiac signs are universal. I think they are probably everywhere in the universe, wherever you go, there'll be the 12 signs around you. But the planets. The planets are made of different elements and thus maybe thats why they have different effects on our brains. So what does it mean if a planet 'rules' a sign? I think it's just opinion. Astrologers have thought that Venus has similar traits to Taurus and so it rules that sign. But in other solar systems there is no Venus. There is just different planets with different energies to them. So in no way is Venus some universal ruler of Taurus. Astrologers just seem to think that it's similar to Taurus and so they named it the ruler. But is it's energy actually more similar to Taurus then any other planet's energy? I dont know. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 1624
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 12:56 AM
If you look at Michael Jackson and Latoya, they both look as if their suns are ruled by the same planet: Mercury. Michael is Virgo. Latoya, Gemini sun. IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 2382
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 01:00 AM
hehe they are siblings and must of had the same plastic surgeon.They sound exactly the same thou.
Laytoya is more bubbly and outgoing and Michael is more reserved
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StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 1624
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
hehe they are siblings and must of had the same plastic surgeon.They sound exactly the same thou.
Laytoya is more bubbly and outgoing and Michael is more reserved
Two sides of mercury.
Even before they had surgery, their pictures are very similar and their manner of speaking. Their personalities are very similar. So easy to see in these two they share the same sun rulers yet not the same signs. Michael, supposedly, got along best with Janet and Latoya, didn't he? IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 14, 2013 01:04 AM
Well that's the polarities of Hermes.
As for what is Rulership... that's a pretty good question. If it was opinion, I'd say Dimitra rules Virgo and Persefoni rules Taurus. The Dignities are assigned based on how similar the traits/mythologies are.------------------
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Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 2382
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 01:07 AM
I knew a taurus and libra couple.
They were so glamorous together. They totally loved going to expensive restaurants and had similar extravagant taste. The taurus was an art dealer and his father was a wealthy financier and the libra was an interior designer/ architect I can totally see Vulcan's home sign is taurus.
Taureans are amazingly gifted artists. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 1624
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 14, 2013 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by Sailor Gemini:
Well that's the polarities of Hermes.
As for what is Rulership... that's a pretty good question. If it was opinion, I'd say Dimitra rules Virgo and Persefoni rules Taurus. The Dignities are assigned based on how similar the traits/mythologies are.
So you disagree with my Jackson sibling theory to support Mercury ruling both Gemini and Virgo? IP: Logged |
Sailor Gemini
Knowflake Posts: 77
From: Magellan Castle
Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 14, 2013 01:11 AM
I don't disagree. Even though a Sign might be assigned a Modern Ruler, the Traditional Ruler always has Dignity in that Sign.------------------
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