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Topic: Ascendant decans yay or nay?
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 11:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by pastel lace: Yes to being both noticeable and important. Leo Ascendant / Aries Decan (Taurus Duad)
And I believe the description on this site to be accurate for me: http://www.elbertwade.com/page102.html
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Lunae Knowflake Posts: 1307 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 11:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: Post your planets and the degrees, I can do yours if you want
Wow, thank you! I am new to this Duads thing, so please forgive me for my ignorance Okay, here are my planets: Gemini Ascendant, 27 deg 26'24" Scorpio Sun 23 deg 36'39" Pisces Moon 14 deg 52'55" Libra Venus 7 deg 24'27" Sagittarius Mercury 15 deg 40 Scorpio Mars 21 deg 6'28" Virgo Jupiter 11 deg 29'36" Aquarius Saturn 1 deg 39'24" Capricorn Uranus 11 deg 12'47" Capricorn Neptune 14 deg 41'40" Scorpio Pluto 20 deg 25'33" IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3097 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 11:49 AM
http://aliceportman.com/190/ Duads!IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 12:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lunae: Wow, thank you! I am new to this Duads thing, so please forgive me for my ignorance Okay, here are my planets: Gemini Ascendant, 27 deg 26'24" Scorpio Sun 23 deg 36'39" Pisces Moon 14 deg 52'55" Libra Venus 7 deg 24'27" Sagittarius Mercury 15 deg 40 Scorpio Mars 21 deg 6'28" Virgo Jupiter 11 deg 29'36" Aquarius Saturn 1 deg 39'24" Capricorn Uranus 11 deg 12'47" Capricorn Neptune 14 deg 41'40" Scorpio Pluto 20 deg 25'33"
Psh I'm new at this too lol and no problem!
Asc- Taurus duad Sun- Leo duad Moon- Leo duad Mercury- Gemini duad Venus- Sagittarius duad Mars- Cancer duad Jupiter- Capricorn duad Saturn- Aquarius duad Uranus- Taurus duad Neptune- Gemini duad Pluto- Cancer duad
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 12:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by peachbeigeblue: http://aliceportman.com/190/ Duads!
Checking it out now, thank you! IP: Logged |
Lunae Knowflake Posts: 1307 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: Psh I'm new at this too lol and no problem! Asc- Taurus duad Sun- Leo duad Moon- Leo duad Mercury- Gemini duad Venus- Sagittarius duad Mars- Cancer duad Jupiter- Capricorn duad Saturn- Aquarius duad Uranus- Taurus duad Neptune- Gemini duad Pluto- Cancer duad
Wow, I guess my Duads compensate for the lack of planets in the eastern hemisphere of my chart. Interesting
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 4791 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 17, 2013 01:21 PM
I guess ASC decans do hold some significance. But I wouldn't pay too much attention to them - there are plenty of other things in a chart, like the degree of the ASC and the aspects it makes.Question about duads: Do degrees matter at all? Can there be a connection in synastry, if say someone has Sun at 15° Taurus and you have the Venus duad at that same degree? Or is that irrelevant? IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 01:34 PM
Ok I have a queston now (just to make sure whether or not I'm understanding this)This paragraph for example: For a woman the duads of your Sun, Moon, Mars, Ascendant and Nodes are usually the main significators of attraction to the opposite sex. E.g. if a woman has her Sun in Cancer in the Libra duad and the 4th duad (Cancer), she will be instinctively drawn to Libran and Cancerian men, or, to a lesser extent, people with the Moon, Mars, Angles or North Node in Libra or Cancer. And using my chart I'd be attracted to/a good match with: Sagittarius/Cancer (Sun duad) Virgo/Taurus (Moon duad) Aquarius/Cancer (Mars duad) Capricorn/Cancer/Libra (Asc/Desc duad) Virgo/Pisces (NN duad)
Or did I do that wrong?
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 4791 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 17, 2013 01:42 PM
Chiemi,I think that's right! IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2573 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 01:54 PM
I checked out my ascending duads and found my ascendant and Jupiter are both in the Capricorn duad of Libra which makes sense when you read everything I have typed about my Libra ascendant! It has a Capricorn/Saturnine feel more than a Venusian one.IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: Chiemi,I think that's right!
Ok good, wasn't sure if I was making a connection or just totally off all together lol. IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 02:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: I checked out my ascending duads and found my ascendant and Jupiter are both in the Capricorn duad of Libra which makes sense when you read everything I have typed about my Libra ascendant! It has a Capricorn/Saturnine feel more than a Venusian one.
My ascendant is in the capricorn duad too! Mine totally contradict though lol (cancer/capricorn) but either way I think I come off as "reserved" to the majority of people. I thought it was just my saturn/asc trine but I've always been described as mature or carrying myself in a mature/older manner. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2573 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 02:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: My ascendant is in the capricorn duad too! Mine totally contradict though lol (cancer/capricorn) but either way I think I come off as "reserved" to the majority of people.I thought it was just my saturn/asc trine but I've always been described as mature or carrying myself in a mature/older manner.
Duads really explain why I relate so well to Saturn! I thought I was the odd Libra out, now I know why that is. Couldn't figure out why I relate so much more to it instead of the ruler, Venus, so I just assumed it was because Of exaltations and aspects Saturn makes to it but it could be more to the duad or maybe they all work together to intensify it? I do feel the Saturn vibe tremendously.To be fair, I also have a lot of Sagittarius going on with the sun in the Sag duad of Virgo, and Mercury is in the Sag duad of Libra so it's not all strictly gloom and doom lol. I am glad Uranus resides in the Scorpio duad of Libra. These duads are really interesting. I was lazy about them before, now that I look into them, they really do explain a lot! I am somewhat disappointed to find Venus is in the Virgo duad of Leo. Not exactly where I want Venus to be.
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nove731 Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Washington, DC Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 17, 2013 02:45 PM
I say yay to decans. I'm a late Virgo riser, and I can definitely feel a Taurean/Venusian influence...My chart ruler is in Taurus as well, which only emphasizes this further. The words "sophisticated", "graceful", and even "elegant" (awkward for a guy, I think) have been tossed in my direction on more than one occasion. In short, my Venus (Pisces/6th) is definitely an energy that I feel on a regular basis My Venus mostly being aspected quite well also helps, I assume (only hard aspect is a square to my Moon).I'm not sure how I feel about duads, though. My ascendant falls into the Cancer duad of Virgo, and I'm not too sure I jive with that. Cancer is mostly in my 10th, with the tail end (at 29 degrees) falling onto my 11th house cusp. I have Jupiter there, conjunct my MC in Gemini. My Moon is in Sagittarius, inconjunct Jupiter (mutual reception for the win?). While I definitely feel my Moon in Sag, I'm not so sure that other people do. I can't say that I feel Jupiter's influence at all. Despite all it's lovely aspects, I rarely have any strokes of luck, and my career is on a pretty shaky path. I dunno, maybe I'm looking at duads the wrong way. IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 02:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: [QUOTE] Duads really explain why I relate so well to Saturn! I thought I was the odd Libra out, now I know why that is. Couldn't figure out why I relate so much more to it instead of the ruler, Venus, so I just assumed it was because Of exaltations and aspects Saturn makes to it but it could be more to the duad or maybe they all work together to intensify it? I do feel the Saturn vibe tremendously.To be fair, I also have a lot of Sagittarius going on with the sun in the Sag duad of Virgo, and Mercury is in the Sag duad of Libra so it's not all strictly gloom and doom lol. I am glad Uranus resides in the Scorpio duad of Libra.
Do you have any hard saturn aspects in your chart? I guess I'm saturnian since I have a few hard aspects (sun/saturn opposition, mercury/saturn quincunx, MC/saturn conjunction) but I think I'm more lunarian though (chart ruler and a lot in 4th house plus a pretty aspected moon)
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StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2573 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 02:50 PM
Nove731,Duads can make things a bit tougher to interpret. How does it all fit together? Complicated. Chiemi, I am sure you definitely feel the effects of your sun/Saturn opposition! I only have one major opposition in my chart and it seems to be going on every day! I notice it in my surroundings, what I am confronted with in life. How does your opposition manifest? Mine does not involve Saturn, though, or the sun. Saturn squares my chart ruler, Venus, and it quincunxes the ascendant, Mercury and Jupiter. It makes a couple nice aspects, one to the sun, the other a biquintile to Uranus. I suppose this gives me sudden opportunity within established structures or something? IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 03:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by nove731: I say yay to decans. I'm a late Virgo riser, and I can definitely feel a Taurean/Venusian influence...My chart ruler is in Taurus as well, which only emphasizes this further. The words "sophisticated", "graceful", and even "elegant" (awkward for a guy, I think) have been tossed in my direction on more than one occasion. In short, my Venus (Pisces/6th) is definitely an energy that I feel on a regular basis My Venus mostly being aspected quite well also helps, I assume (only hard aspect is a square to my Moon).I'm not sure how I feel about duads, though. My ascendant falls into the Cancer duad of Virgo, and I'm not too sure I jive with that. Cancer is mostly in my 10th, with the tail end (at 29 degrees) falling onto my 11th house cusp. I have Jupiter there, conjunct my MC in Gemini. My Moon is in Sagittarius, inconjunct Jupiter (mutual reception for the win?). While I definitely feel my Moon in Sag, I'm not so sure that other people do. I can't say that I feel Jupiter's influence at all. Despite all it's lovely aspects, I rarely have any strokes of luck, and my career is on a pretty shaky path. I dunno, maybe I'm looking at duads the wrong way.
Ha my virgo sun is in the third taurus decan
Hmm with your virgo asc duad in cancer and cancer ruling your 10th house (MC too I'm guessing?) Is your reputation/career an important thing/theme in your life? I think having my cancer asc in capricorn duad it adds importance to my DESC (ruled by capricorn) and relationships which I can see too because I have NN in libra in the 4th I hope I made sense o__o lol
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Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 03:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Chiemi,I am sure you definitely feel the effects of your sun/Saturn opposition! I only have one major opposition in my chart and it seems to be going on every day! I notice it in my surroundings, what I am confronted with in life. How does your opposition manifest? Mine does not involve Saturn, though, or the sun. Saturn squares my chart ruler, Venus, and it quincunxes the ascendant, Mercury and Jupiter. It makes a couple nice aspects, one to the sun, the other a biquintile to Uranus. I suppose this gives me sudden opportunity within established structures or something?
Hmm as far as my sun/saturn opposition I think it just makes me really self critical of myself (something I'm working on) and I analyze my faults alot - I know I'm not perfect but still lol. My dad also wasn't and still isn't really a part of my life either. I don't dislike the aspect though, if anything it's my mercury/neptune mercury/asc square and quincunx to saturn I wish was different but I'll live haha
having your chart ruler squared by saturn must be hard too, is that the only hard aspect to venus?
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meissieri Knowflake Posts: 326 From: The Netherlands Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 17, 2013 04:29 PM
Great to see a topic on this! Good links too, they definitely explain a lot about my rising sign and what I'm attracted to. My Ascendant is in the Libra decan, so yes, relationships, peace and pretty things are very important to me. Sagittarius & 3rd duad (Gemini-flavour as well). I do have long limbs and strong legs. It's pretty funny, my chart ruler is in Virgo (Mercurial) and Jupiter squares both that and my Ascendant. The duads do emphasise what was already there in my chart. Do any of you have this kind of pattern? So, going by the duad article, I'm getting these: Sun: Aries decan, Aries duad, 9th duad (Sagittarius) Moon: Taurus decan, Cancer duad, 7th duad (Libra) Mars: Virgo decan, Scorpio duad, 3rd duad (Gemini) NN: Libra decan, Sagittarius duad, 11th duad (Aquarius) And Venus my chart ruler: Taurus decan, Cancer duad, 11th duad (Aquarius) I should've known! Haha, all the air signs show up. I'm an air void, so I guess I do need them. Most men I've known in my life had very strong Sagittarius and Aquarius influence. A lot of Gemini or Libra, too, and now I can see it really matches the chart. My moon is actually in the 4th house and trines Venus, so I see a touch of both in here again. I always thought I felt my Moon-Venus trine so strongly for 9 degrees, and this shows me why. The rest fits, too. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2573 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 06:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: [QUOTE]Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme: [b] Chiemi,I am sure you definitely feel the effects of your sun/Saturn opposition! I only have one major opposition in my chart and it seems to be going on every day! I notice it in my surroundings, what I am confronted with in life. How does your opposition manifest? Mine does not involve Saturn, though, or the sun. Saturn squares my chart ruler, Venus, and it quincunxes the ascendant, Mercury and Jupiter. It makes a couple nice aspects, one to the sun, the other a biquintile to Uranus. I suppose this gives me sudden opportunity within established structures or something?
Hmm as far as my sun/saturn opposition I think it just makes me really self critical of myself (something I'm working on) and I analyze my faults alot - I know I'm not perfect but still lol. My dad also wasn't and still isn't really a part of my life either. I don't dislike the aspect though, if anything it's my mercury/neptune mercury/asc square and quincunx to saturn I wish was different but I'll live haha
having your chart ruler squared by saturn must be hard too, is that the only hard aspect to venus?
[/B][/QUOTE] I have it sextile Mercury/Jupiter/Uranus and Pluto only because it's conjunct Uranus, not because it's in orb, lol. More confusion! I never know what to make of these "not quite there" aspects that involve a conjunction. I also have a trine to Neptune and one to Chiron (exact.) Venus makes a lot of aspects, just not conjunctions or opps. The square must be the strongest of them all. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3097 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 07:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: I guess ASC decans do hold some significance. But I wouldn't pay too much attention to them - there are plenty of other things in a chart, like the degree of the ASC and the aspects it makes.Question about duads: Do degrees matter at all? Can there be a connection in synastry, if say someone has Sun at 15° Taurus and you have the Venus duad at that same degree? Or is that irrelevant?
I have Venus conjunct Venus with someone and I think having Venus in the same duad makes a difference than a regular conjunction. I think the Taurus duads tones down our Venus big time. I mentioned this RAS a little over a week about because i was thinking the duad making the conjunction a bigger deal. Every duad of mine I feel like makes sense. I ll least all mine soon, they're fun Oh and another note - I think my duad makes more sense than my decan for my sun
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 3097 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 07:43 PM
Leo Sun - Capricorn duad Taurus Moon - Virgo duad Scorpio ascendant - Aries duad (interestingly my ascendant it is 12 degrees 30 minutes and 30 seconds - i just rounded to 12 and a half to 15 though) Other duads: Leo Mercury - Capricron duad Gemini Venus - Taurus Duad Aries Mars - Cancer duad Gemini Jupiter - Gemini duad Sagittarius Saturn - Libra duad Sagittarius Uranus - Libra duad Capricorn Neptune - Aries duad Scoprio Pluto - Aquarius duad Pisces NN - Leo duad Cancer Chiron - Leo duad Aquarius IC - Libra duad Taurus DC - Libra duad Leo MC - Aries duad
^i'm a water singleton - even with duads, heh. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme Knowflake Posts: 2573 From: neptune Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 17, 2013 07:58 PM
My Pisces north node is in the Libra duad. Heh. MORE LIBRA!!!IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 811 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted June 20, 2013 11:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by meissieri: Great to see a topic on this! Good links too, they definitely explain a lot about my rising sign and what I'm attracted to. My Ascendant is in the Libra decan, so yes, relationships, peace and pretty things are very important to me. Sagittarius & 3rd duad (Gemini-flavour as well). I do have long limbs and strong legs. It's pretty funny, my chart ruler is in Virgo (Mercurial) and Jupiter squares both that and my Ascendant. The duads do emphasise what was already there in my chart. Do any of you have this kind of pattern? So, going by the duad article, I'm getting these: Sun: Aries decan, Aries duad, 9th duad (Sagittarius) Moon: Taurus decan, Cancer duad, 7th duad (Libra) Mars: Virgo decan, Scorpio duad, 3rd duad (Gemini) NN: Libra decan, Sagittarius duad, 11th duad (Aquarius) And Venus my chart ruler: Taurus decan, Cancer duad, 11th duad (Aquarius) I should've known! Haha, all the air signs show up. I'm an air void, so I guess I do need them. Most men I've known in my life had very strong Sagittarius and Aquarius influence. A lot of Gemini or Libra, too, and now I can see it really matches the chart. My moon is actually in the 4th house and trines Venus, so I see a touch of both in here again. I always thought I felt my Moon-Venus trine so strongly for 9 degrees, and this shows me why. The rest fits, too.
That's pretty cool how the duads show your attraction to signs/elements you lack in your chart Do you have anything in air houses 3rd, 7th, or 11th? IP: Logged |
anno_lucis Knowflake Posts: 885 From: the atman Registered: Mar 2012
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posted June 20, 2013 11:31 AM
libra asc: aquarius decan, aquarius duad*balks slightly* jk. the description was fairly accurate.
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