posted June 17, 2013 02:53 PM            

As far as pisces is concearned, yes, pisces is an extremly sensitive sign both for the sun and moon to be in. However, it is my experience from knowing meny pisces suns and moons that they have a kind of deep wisdom wich is helping them deal with their sensitivity in a more effective way than scorpios and especially cancers.

This brings me to the conclusion that the cancer sun/scorpio moon combination probably is the most difficult a person can have.
This has also been verified by my own experience, because the most sensitive person I know is a male cousin of mine who is a cancer with a moon in scorpio. Growing up we were very close (me being a capricorn with moon in scorpio made for a very strong connection) and I have come to witness how this beautiful boy became corrupted by his enviroment, especially my abusive uncle who constantly used to attack him both verbally and sometimes even physically. The rest of the family joined in and he became a scapegoat for meny of the families deep-seated problems and dysfunctional behavioural patterns. My cousin did what every impressionable child does - he started to belive these lies about him, that he was unlovable and rotten. But this is where the tragedy of cancer/scorpio really comes in.. He turned the agression inwards and withdrew (scorpio) from the world, yet remained loyal to his abusive family (cancer).
He is still to this day a loner, and has developed depression and a mental disorder. I´m not sure what is really going on with him, but I think it might be a case of schizoid or even schizofrenia.
The saddest thing about all of this is that he had so much potential, and I still hope he can one day fulfill it, because he was deep down an empath and above avarage intelligent, and he could have done so much if he had been in the right enviroment.
On the other hand, I belive all souls chose their life experiences before incarnating, so I´m sure there is a purpose to his difficult path.

I guess my main point is that there is an integrity and self-sacrifise to cancer/scorpio people, and unlike meny others who have been abused and chose to take it out on others, these people don´t do that, and I find that extremly touching.
I know that my cousin withdrew because he had almost too much love and decency. He did not want to burden the world with what he belived was his corrupted self. The paradox, in my oppinion, is however that the people that withdraw are the same people that really Need to get out there and share them selves with the world, whereas the people who take it out on others need to stay at home and do some soul-searching.. But that is another topic.

I will also add that I know another cancer/scorpio woman who is extremly social and very inspiring (she´a dance-teacher) and has fulfilled her potential so far. So I KNOW that once cancer/scorpio come into their own right they can shine like no others. There is so much depth, and strenght to them when they´re at their best that turns them into an electrifying force of nature.

posted June 17, 2013 03:58 PM            

Do you think the behaviour described above responds to the burden you described of this sun/moon combo?

How should someone approach a guy like this? Any clues on how to "win" him, he has a gemini venus + aries mars.

posted June 17, 2013 04:36 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
I know a guy that has this combination, I cant really figure him out.
You know he acts like a douche-bag, but deep down he isn't like that. Deep down he is very insecure about himself, finds it hard to trust people etc.
But at the same time, he wants people to think of him as a player, the tough guy etc
So he acts like a complete a**hole, ends up with everyone talking about him behind his back or even confronting him, and he is sad about all that.
But he provokes it by having a s***y behaviour.
But still, I can feel that he is not the douche he is trying to appear, but I cant oversee the fact that he hasn't been nice to me sometimes. I wonder what really goes on his mind.
For instance he will make fun of a girl he likes in front of his friends, but then he will be alone thinking about her, and he will be shy and wont do anything to win her.

Do you think the behaviour described above responds to the burden you described of this sun/moon combo?

How should someone approach a guy like this? Any clues on how to "win" him, he has a gemini venus + aries mars.

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First of, credit to you for seing beyond the mask. That´s all it really is - a mask.
My cousin has problems with the ladies too although he was very popular among them.

My personal oppinion is that there is no way one can ever "win over" a guy. They have to be ready to be "won", wich means they have to heal their inner wound first.

I know another guy with capricorn sun and cancer moon who is just like the guy you described, and I´m starting to think the cancer placements are responsible for this player persona / mush underneath - syndrome. When it comes down to it, they want true love, just like all people. True love is beyond "approaching someone in the right way" You´re either right for him or you´re not. You have to follow your own path and be true to yourself.
If you are that woman they are looking for and you meet at he right time they will pick up on it and do something about it.

All the best.

posted June 17, 2013 04:41 PM            

nice to see you again!

I like your post, I agree with what you say - I've found that Cancer Sun / Scorpio Moon people are indeed one of the most sensitive people around.

Sadly, a lot of them are really insecure, and the way this insecurity is expressed differs - inward or outward.

They are usually so sensitive that anything can hurt them - they can become easily angered or upset, and can lash out or reply with sarcasm when hurt.

They have a big shell.. but very often it doesn't help them much and their super-sensitivity is quite easy to spot.

I believe they are very kind, helpful and soulful people at their core but their extreme emotions get the best out of them, which is why they can appear self-absorbed, selfish, or way too touchy.

They can also drive their partners mad with jealousy and controlling behaviour..

posted June 17, 2013 04:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
First of, credit to you for seing beyond the mask. That´s all it really is - a mask.
My cousin has problems with the ladies too although he was very popular among them.

My personal oppinion is that there is no way one can ever "win over" a guy. They have to be ready to be "won", wich means they have to heal their inner wound firs.

I know another guy with capricorn sun and cancer moon who is just like the guy you described, and I´m starting to think the cancer placements are responsible for this player persona / mush underneath - syndrome. When it comes down to it, they want true love, just like all people. True love is about understanding and patience. I´m not saying you should try to be understanding and patient, you have to follow your own path and be true to yourself. But I´m just saying that in the end these kind of guys will either find a woman who is equally sensitive and GETS them, or they´ll remain alone.

My advice: Stay true to yourself, don´t worry about him, and trust me - if you are that woman they are looking for and you meet till pick up on it and do something about it.

All the best.

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posted June 17, 2013 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Little Doe,

nice to see you again!

I like your post, I agree with what you say - I've found that Cancer Sun / Scorpio Moon people are indeed one of the most sensitive people around.

Sadly, a lot of them are really insecure, and the way this insecurity is expressed differs - inward or outward.

They are usually so sensitive that anything can hurt them - they can become easily angered or upset, and can lash out or reply with sarcasm when hurt.

They have a big shell.. but very often it doesn't help them much and their super-sensitivity is quite easy to spot.

I believe they are very kind, helpful and soulful people at their core but their extreme emotions get the best out of them, which is why they can appear self-absorbed, selfish, or way too touchy.

They can also drive their partners mad with jealousy and controlling behaviour..

I think they just need more security and reassurance than others. They need to know that they're loved, appreciated and cared for. Way more than other people.

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posted June 17, 2013 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
First of, credit to you for seing beyond the mask. That´s all it really is - a mask.

My personal oppinion is that there is no way one can ever "win over" a guy. They have to be ready to be "won", wich means they have to heal their inner wound first.

[..] I´m starting to think the cancer placements are responsible for this player persona / mush underneath - syndrome. When it comes down to it, they want true love, just like all people. True love is beyond "approaching someone in the right way" You´re either right for him or you´re not. You have to follow your own path and be true to yourself.
If you are that woman they are looking for and you meet at he right time they will pick up on it and do something about it.

All the best.

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posted June 17, 2013 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Awwww thanks for your advice
The problem is that having dealt with guys who acted like douches because they really were douches, I thought that he didnt care.
After so many months, that I talked with his best friend, she explained it all to me and even pointed out that he seemed very into me when we had started dating. But well, im too slefish and proud and never understood the signs, as I told you I thought he was really a douche bag since he was acting like one. So yeah I never did anything to provide him with comfort and make him feel less insecure, but I guess now its all over since he has a girlfriend now.
But you know what I dont believe this is over, I mean it cant be so intense only from my side, but I dont know if I should try to win him back.
Ugh, sorry for the long post!

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If you look above, you´ll see that I´ve dited that post, because there were so meny spelling errors it was almost incomprehensable.

Back to you - I´m guessing you´re still quite young. In time you´ll find that there is no way one can "win back" a guy, not for long anyway. If he´s truly yours he´ll come back without you doing anything but being true to yourself. If not, someone better will come along.
Just my oppinion.

I know that he´s being a douche because that is just his way of manifesting his inner problems, but that´s no excuse for you to overlook how you are affected by it.

As i said, I wish you the best.

posted June 17, 2013 05:00 PM            

come here for a hug!

I can't express how much I agree with what you're saying.

posted June 17, 2013 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
If you look above, you´ll see that I´ve dited that post, because there were so meny spelling errors it was almost incomprehensable.

Back to you - I´m guessing you´re still quite young. In time you´ll find that there is no way one can "win back" a guy, not for long anyway. If he´s truly yours he´ll come back without you doing anything but being true to yourself. If not, someone better will come along.
Just my oppinion.

I know that he´s being a douche because that is just his way of manifesting his inner problems, but that´s no excuse for you to overlook how you are affected by it.

As i said, I wish you the best.

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posted June 17, 2013 05:02 PM            

Don't worry girl, when someone really wants to have you in their life, they'll act accordingly and make sure there's some place for you in there!

If not, then it's their loss.

posted June 17, 2013 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Little Doe,

come here for a hug!

I can't express how much I agree with what you're saying.

It feels like free validation of my own thoughts

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*Runs over to Doux and gives her a hug*!

I´m glad this resonated with you. Now you can imagine how I feel when I read your posts. <3 Thanks.

posted June 17, 2013 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by its_aqua:
Thanks Little Doe
I believe Cancer placements are worse for men though, not for women.
Another man I know is a Cancer and has a Scorpio Moon and he is as you described, I also believe he may suffers from bi-polar disorder :/
I have also noticed that all the above we have discussed, apply more for Cancer men of the 1st or the 3rd decan, do you find this accurate?

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You´re welcome.
Yes, I think sometimes their sensitivity can manifest as bi-polar.
Not sure about the decans, but my cousin is a 2nd decan cancer.

posted June 17, 2013 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
its_aqua,

Don't worry girl, when someone really wants to have you in their life, they'll act accordingly and make sure there's some place for you in there!

If not, then it's their loss.

Better things are waiting for you.

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These awful nodes are too blame! Bump comes a Cancer guy with his Sun sitting exactly on my poor S.Node
I know you're completely right, but I just cant keep looking back and think that I didnt evaluate correctly the hints he was giving me, due to this "mask behaviour".

But I was so glad Little Doe, opened this thread cause she expressed accurately all these things I kept thinking but couldn't express myself.

posted June 17, 2013 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Little Doe:
*Runs over to Doux and gives her a hug*!

I´m glad this resonated with you. Now you can imagine how I feel when I read your posts. <3 Thanks.

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