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Topic: Finding it hard to balance your Nodes.
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Doux Rêve
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posted June 17, 2013 07:02 PM
  
Do you guys find it hard to act more in accordance with your North Node?I'm so set up in my South Node ways.
Sometimes I think I'm not but really I am, and it's hard to find a balance. Especially now with Neptune squaring my Nodes and Saturn (widely) conjuncting my South Node ruler (Mercury), it feels like I'm trapped and unable to move. I have SN in the 12th/1st and I find myself spending too much time reflecting on myself and being alone, trying to transcend the world; I'm lost in myself much of the time and find it hard to really relate to people. I do go out and talk and socialise, but when it comes to the more serious "partnership" part of the 7th house and the responsible and organised, "out there in the world" part of the 6th house.. forget it.
The worst part is that I tend to feel hurt no matter which Node I decide to integrate - Moon & Chiron square the Nodal axis, which is basically like getting burnt everytime I decide to go out and make something happen; and even the more comfortable SN gets kind of miserable.
So, tell me about your Nodes.
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 17, 2013 07:09 PM
Saaaaame thing happens to me, Doux, I have south node buried way in the 12th and I totally get what it is like and what a struggle it is. It's also conjunct Pluto. North node always struggles to find it's place in the world. South node wants to kick it at home thinking about stuff way too much, that's where it's most comfortable, or out seeing movies or taking photos. Typical 12th house/Pisces stuff. And, my north node is in Pisces anyway, so I figure it's a win/win situation. I am actually fulfilling my Piscean north node destiny when I do south node/12th house activities  I never thought of it like that before! Thanks, Doux. I just had this insight about it. I thought it was totally gloomy, now I am seeing it as more as an easy destiny to fulfill thanks to Pisces traditional rule of 12th house. If I do the Virgo stuff I win (North node in sixth house) and if I do the Pisces stuff I win (North node in Pisces.) This is kinda neat! I don't have to choose. IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted June 17, 2013 07:12 PM
Yes....I have NN/SN in Scorpio/Taurus and my IC/MC in Scorpio/Taurus. It's all quite confusing to me.IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted June 17, 2013 07:22 PM
Just do whatever is comfortable to you. Nodes need some time, to outgrow the South and go along the North. It will happen naturally.
Also, this social difficulties you talk about could be just your perception. You are very popular and well liked here and Orange thinks you are a very cool chick, especially for your young age.
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nove731
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posted June 17, 2013 08:10 PM
I feel like a freak, because I'm actually way more comfortable with my North Node (Aquarius) than my South!Leo anything usually makes me pretty uncomfortable... IP: Logged |
Chiemi
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posted June 17, 2013 08:54 PM
I like the sign of my NN but not the house placement. It's in the 4th house and my family on both my mom and dads side is not really close at all. So yeah lol part of me is like "I hope we'll all be close one day" and then I see some of my family members and how they all treat and talk about each other and I'm like "nahhh, I think I'll just move to another country and send you guys post cards on holidays"..I have chiron in the 4th too though IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted June 17, 2013 09:00 PM
Yeah... I agree with wanting to sit and stew in my SN a lot. I blame it mostly on the fact that I have 3 planets in Sagittarius (my SN is also in Sagittarius) and an Aries Moon (NN in the 7th, SN in the 1st). It's like that particular deck was stacked against me from the outset. HOWEVER, I will say that I almost always feel 100% better when I at least TRY to get out and work on communication in partnerships. I think that the fears/frustrations in my head are usually a lot larger than what actually happens in reality. In reality, I don't come off as awkward as I sometimes feel that I do, so then, once I start making progress, it's like a whole new breath of fresh air in my life! It's somewhat exhilarating, whereas I think sitting in my SN tendencies starts to feel stale after awhile... Like been there, done that. IP: Logged |
Textbook
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Registered: Jun 2013
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posted June 17, 2013 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Do you guys find it hard to act more in accordance with your North Node?I'm so set up in my South Node ways.
Sometimes I think I'm not but really I am, and it's hard to find a balance. Especially now with Neptune squaring my Nodes and Saturn (widely) conjuncting my South Node ruler (Mercury), it feels like I'm trapped and unable to move. I have SN in the 12th/1st and I find myself spending too much time reflecting on myself and being alone, trying to transcend the world; I'm lost in myself much of the time and find it hard to really relate to people. I do go out and talk and socialise, but when it comes to the more serious "partnership" part of the 7th house and the responsible and organised, "out there in the world" part of the 6th house.. forget it.
The worst part is that I tend to feel hurt no matter which Node I decide to integrate - Moon & Chiron square the Nodal axis, which is basically like getting burnt everytime I decide to go out and make something happen; and even the more comfortable SN gets kind of miserable.
So, tell me about your Nodes.
The signs of the nodes aren't an issue because I have other things in my chart in both signs - for me it's the houses that are the kicker. Like you, my south node is 12th; my north, 6th. And it really is my innate tendency to hide off and isolate myself I'm not really comfortable with being out in the world; I actually have social phobia, too. But I'm trying to make myself get out of it and be more present in the day to day world, which is difficult because it really is second-nature to me to go in the other direction. I actually have to kinda force myself to go that route because my first instinct is always to run away screaming lmao. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez
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posted June 17, 2013 09:05 PM
Yes, I do..I'm so used to receiving things be it money, and getting things done for me (Venus conjunct South Node in Libra 8th house on Spica). I'm not used to working hard to get things..but I am starting to now!I'm trying to work as hard as I can, but I'm still receiving "gifts" from loved ones, and things of that nature, which doesn't help me achieve my NN goals because I don't worry as much as I should.. IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth
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posted June 17, 2013 11:15 PM
Hasn't been a problem here. Progressions have played a large part in making me more comfortable with developing into my North Node potentials. Were it not for the progression of my big 3 (Aqua Sun, Gem Moon, now Lib Asc), I wonder how much different things could have been. But, more than anything I haven't the harsh (natal) aspects to my nodal axis that could possibly complicate things anyway. ^^; Fortunately, my axis is in the middle of Sagittarius-Gemini. The other dividing axis are 7 degrees along the Virgo-Pisces axis (ASC/DSC), and 3 degrees along Sagittarius-Gemini axis (IC/MC), and 5* Aquarius-Leo axis (Vtx/Avtx). S.Node in the 4th, Jupiter domicile, Venus on S.Node (exact) cnj Uranus, ruling over the 9th, Uranus ruling the Vtx from the 5th, exalt Moon (natural ruler of the house where S.Node lies) is in the 9h (naturally ruled by the sign on this cusp), with Cancer (natural sign ruling 4th) situated on the cusp of the 11th... further connecting my axis to axis/node to node, are the ASC-DSC rulers in stellium with Jupiter, all in that house. With everything functioning in relative harmony (Uranus is a bit widely squared to the ASC/DSC axis, but I love this aspect), I haven't any complaints. My N.Node in the 10th (GEM), is fastened to both Rigel and Vesta (or Rhea and hypo-Kronos)... it's a bundle of fun learning to explore those 10th house prerogatives with a more Geminine perspective. It's when the centaur in me stops believing they are escaping boundaries when those escapes are actually forming boundaries in their mind, and they begin to really open up to a more worldly, more ephemeral thinking. Well, at least to me... this is the realization (Sag lives freely in their mind, Gem lives freely in the world; both require taking in vast amounts of interaction and information, it's a lovely mix). ^^ But, as far as the usual formula goes... The nodes are domicile, S.Node to Sagittarius, and N.Node to Gemini, and to have these rulers in close conjunction... all the better, eh?! I have Foros on my S.Node too... I wonder if that's why I bother with forums. lol (Foros - "forum", rooted in foro "pierce (the mind), conceive (an idea)", etc...) =x ~embracing the air~ *floaton*  IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted June 18, 2013 12:14 AM
Everyone should have Sun exact conjunct NN like me. Everything is just going along swimmingly.
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Jessica2407
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posted June 18, 2013 01:31 AM
^^ Good for you.I feel my SN is akin to a vortex. No matter what I do, am sucked into it. I'm in a relatively dark place atm, thinking too hard about my 4th house chiron and 4th house SN. I know you guys would say that astrology makes one more aware,more prepared to face whatever but it doesn't ''save'' you from anything only to make you face your harsh reality and what sucks big time is you don't have a clue what IS the solution,it's like diagnosing your own illness but doesn't know what medicine to prescribe. Sucks. I so want to ''heal'' from my SN and Chiron issues, I so want to MOVE towards my NN's goals. But I have no clue how to achieve that. My NN doesn't help much since it's loaded with squares and a sextile with mars, I don't know what's the sextile means. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
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posted June 18, 2013 01:57 AM
Jessica; I think the sextile would be a difficult aspect in a NN sense because it is then also trine your SN.
A trine makes energy flow so easily; your Mars probably supports SN habits. The sextile is an aspect which requires shaping but also provides innate talents - it might be a challenge trying to develop that aspect when the trine is funneling all your natural energy. I think this is what articles mean when they say all aspects are good and bad, such as trines = ruts.How to help it...hmm...I'll think on it. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted June 18, 2013 02:21 AM
Great.NN squares and a sextile that also works against the NN. Am I supposed to balance them? IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 18, 2013 05:50 AM
Starlight,Glad you could relate!
I think your "task" is to do 6th house stuff in a Piscean way. If that makes sense! Charlie, NN in Taurus would mean striving for a more grounded, stable and calm approach to things as opposed to the controlling, intense and overly-emotional habits you may have. Orange, Aww. Thank you, doll  :hug:
Good point about perception!
And I hope my age doesn't change your perception of me, by the way.. nove, That's actually pretty cool 
Do you have anything in Aqua besides your NN? Chiemi, quote:
"nahhh, I think I'll just move to another country and send you guys post cards on holidays"..
Haha, I can relate so much.
I think when you have your own family, that's when it'll make sense to you. enchantress, quote:
I think that the fears/frustrations in my head are usually a lot larger than what actually happens in reality.
Oh, yes. Same here. Textbook,
(nice username!) Exactly! I have some weird blockage when it comes to everyday life stuff, lol..
I have to force myself to do things that other people don't even think twice about doing. Empress, Well if I had your SN, I wouldn't want to move towards the NN, either  Saturnine, Glad it's working for you.
Gives some hope! somethingexcellent, You lucky lil' thing. Jessica, You're not alone in this.
I feel the same way!
But hey, life isn't over yet, so try to stay positive! Eventually, you'll find a balance and it will be much easier for you. (See, that's my Sag NN speaking - optimistic! I'm making progress! ha)
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ShineYourLight
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posted June 18, 2013 06:02 AM
I feel you! I have my North Node in the 12th in Sagittarius & South Node 6th Gemini (duh) I feel like I'm on this deep inner search or something.. like I need to understand myself completely (that's why I got so interested in astrology cuz it shows so much of yourself) But in the outside world I haven't accomplished much.. it's really frustrating. Don't know how to balance this yet..  IP: Logged |
nove731
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posted June 18, 2013 06:33 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
nove,That's actually pretty cool
Do you have anything in Aqua besides your NN?
I've got my Mars there (not quite conjunct. NN is at 13 degrees and my Mars is at 24). It's my only planet in Air. I've been thinking about it, though, and on second thought, I think I might have jumped the gun on my earlier statement. Having a late Virgo rising, many of my houses are flipped, much like an early Libra. So while, I would say that I'm generally fairly comfortable with Aquarius and with 11th house issues...my NN actually falls into the 5th. Which, much like Leo, I'm actually not so comfortable with. I don't do creative well, I hate kids, and I abhor competition on a personal level. I'm not very playful, and I have no desire to shine and be a special snowflake.  My Virgo ascendant hates being the center of attention, hahaha I find this particularly interesting, as well, because Aquarius/Leo are intercepted in my chart. They fall on no house cusps. Not only do I somehow seemingly need to find a balance between them to move forward (this is how I interpret NN in Aqua/5th house...that may not necessarily be the case, I'll admit), but I have no intrinsic vehicle for doing so (aside from Mars). At no point is my "approach" to something dominated by Leo or Aquarius. Yikes. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 18, 2013 06:41 AM
ShineYourLight,
(sweet username you have!)I feel ya.
Takes time to balance things out, like Orange said. 
nove,
Ohh that's interesting.
I think intercepted signs are hard to express because their influence on a house is "secondary" - so if you want to express them, you have to work on expressing the signs that come before them (that are on the cusp of the house). So you have to express Cancer / Cap energy in your 5th / 11th houses and work on the Leo / Aqua energy at the same time. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted June 18, 2013 06:46 AM
That's why it's so hard to balance, Doux. Pisces doesn't like the sixth house and just wants to do Pisces stuff. So most the time we compromise and just do Pisces stuff  IP: Logged |
12muddy
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posted June 18, 2013 06:55 AM
I have 1st house Capricorn NN conjunct Saturn, trine mars, oppose cancer Chiron and square MC. I don’t really know what it means but from what I’ve have experienced, I think that it means to overcome obstacles and to build/find my personal characters/identity? I have a job that involves offering compassion/taking care of others/hopefully ease their sufferings (Chiron) and it helps me to ease the pain of my past. IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 18, 2013 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
So most the time we compromise and just do Pisces stuff
Oh how I get you!
Good luck on your journey!
You're getting there.
12muddy,
Sounds about right!
Looks like you're on your way, congrats. IP: Logged |
meyray
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posted June 18, 2013 08:03 AM
Let me share something several people (both an astrologer and a psychologist) have told me. In times like this it’s best to do whatever YOU want. If you find yourself thinking something along the lines of “What should I do? What is the right thing to do?” that is what’s probably making you uneasy. Before you ask yourself “Is this the right thing?” ask yourself “Will this make me happy?”. That preoccupation of always doing the right thing despite ourselves is unnerving. It’s okay to focus on yourself, it’s okay to be selfish, it’s okay to want to be happy. Do what makes you feel good – watch movies, pamper yourself, distract yourself. If you want to socialize- do, if you don’t want to –don’t. You don’t owe anyone anything. As long as what you want to do is not really self-destructive (like an addiction), it’s okay. It’s much easier said than done, believe me I know from personal experience. But it’s not impossible. In fact once you make a small decision contrary to that right-wrong mentality you’ll feel such relief and you’ll see that the only thing in your way is your mind.
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meyray
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posted June 18, 2013 08:05 AM
I think this video will make you feel better. It's very relevant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDG342_AJVE IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted June 18, 2013 08:14 AM
meyray  Lovely post. Couldn't agree with you more. And cool video! I've seen it before but it's always nice to watch it again. His other vids are good too. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted June 18, 2013 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by meyray:
I think this video will make you feel better. It's very relevant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDG342_AJVE
^ I love this. Great thread! *hug* to Doux: moon and Chiron square nodes does sound uncomfortable. My Taurus SN is much more expressive, boisterous, and easy going than my Scorpio NN. I see hanging out at LL as a SN activity. Because my NN is in the 4H, simple housework, taking care of my kids, and quiet meditation are more fulfilling to me. My Leo ASC squares the nodes, so that's where the choice...to socialize or not to socialize?....carries some tension.
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