posted June 26, 2013 03:48 AM            

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Originally posted by geea:
this aspect is interesting, i never thought of it this way, but i relate very much with what you(and aquaguy91) said--chiron squares/oppositions in my chart.

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posted June 26, 2013 03:51 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Remember The Mentalist? Heh.

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YEAH!

Hey did you watch it?

posted June 26, 2013 03:52 AM            

I feel the same way a lot of times, I'm usually over critical of the things I do. I should be doing something more with my life etc.

posted June 26, 2013 03:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
YEAH!

Hey did you watch it?

It's getting really serious now.

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posted June 26, 2013 04:02 AM            

Lilith is intense too.
I wonder how that plays out.
Lilith & chiron
Maybe it's cancels out some of the bad stuff.
I believe lilith liberates you.
She's like your inner wild self.
She feels really uranian.

I have her on my dsc, I always feel really in control when it comes to relationships. I always start them and break them it seems.

Maybe with lilith you can take control of your pain and healing.

posted June 26, 2013 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
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[b]The Square: This aspect creates tension between the planets and points involved. Tension is necessary in order to stimulate action, but too much tension translates to stress. The planets involved in a square are acting at cross purposes. With squares, we may overdo and run into countless obstacles before we "get it right". However, squares force us out of complacency and get the ball rolling. Squares are often more difficult when we are young, as these aspects force us to grow and learn our lessons.

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I agree. That's exactly how I feel my chiron square. I don't feel my uranus squares as much as I feel my chiron. Because the Uranus squares are at looser orbs.

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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
The tension of a square is directed internally. The tension of an opposition is directed externally.

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posted June 26, 2013 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I need to start watching it. I keep forgetting to. I was reminded just now because of the other shows. The problem is, I like to start at the beginning and watch it from season one til the current so I don't feel lost, like I started in the middle. Is it on Netflix?

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You would need to catch up on the story at least before diving into the show

It's on CBS.

posted June 26, 2013 07:33 AM            

Sorry about your troubles.

I don't know if you can relate but with Moon/Chiron hard aspects there's usually a deep-seated, unconscious belief that your needs don't deserve to be met.
So it's like you suboncsiously place yourself in situations that will make it hard for you to feel satisfied, it's like what you need the most at your core somehow keeps eluding you.

Maybe it's related to fear - fear of actually accepting the fact that you do have needs (so you're vulnerable) and it's okay to have them and want to have them fulfilled.
You can be too hard on yourself and expect yourself to be "strong" and independent (I think this would resonate with your Saturn especially), like you don't "need" anyone; you're sort of resisting the fact that you have needs and desires and are not completely satisfied if they're not met..

posted June 26, 2013 07:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Leo, 4th house.
Sextile gem stellium & asc, opp saturn.

Lilith is intense too.
I wonder how that plays out.
Lilith & chiron
Maybe it's cancels out some of the bad stuff.
I believe lilith liberates you.
She's like your inner wild self.
She feels really uranian.

I have her on my dsc, I always feel really in control when it comes to relationships. I always start them and break them it seems.

Maybe with lilith you can take control of your pain and healing.

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I've pondered on my lilith. She seems to be a prominent energy in my chart. I have chiron conjunct lilith at 2 degree.I haven't thought of it that way. She is the Black Moon right? In Vedic, I was born on a Krishna Triyodasi, 13th day.

I relate to this part of the article:

''Trayodashi born are fond of discipline, following the right path. This can also make them too restricted by
rules and conditions. They are not always ready to enjoy like most of us and do not have an aptitude for
having fun for fun’s sake. Those who want to enjoy life or lead less than perfect life cannot understand
Trayodashi and can in extreme cases even be inimical towards them. But conservative behaviour, rigid
rules, following the right path regardless to the cost to oneself is what makes Trayodashi who they are.
They can make knowledgeable though strict teachers, good at setting policy agendas, politicians, very
clever, undertake various religious fasts, virtuous and can have conflicts with family and friends over
behaviour. They are not so beautiful or at least they do not feel attractive. They can be boring and not much
fun. They can become too rigid in their ideas and perpetually opposed to those enjoying life. The morality
campaigners would be a good representation of trayodashi.''
http://dgva.de/downloads/tithi.pdf

posted June 26, 2013 07:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Jessica, hi

Sorry about your troubles.

I don't know if you can relate but with Moon/Chiron hard aspects there's usually a deep-seated, unconscious belief that your needs don't deserve to be met.
So it's like you suboncsiously place yourself in situations that will make it hard for you to feel satisfied, it's like what you need the most at your core somehow keeps eluding you.

Maybe it's related to fear - fear of actually accepting the fact that you do have needs (so you're vulnerable) and it's okay to have them and want to have them fulfilled.
You can be too hard on yourself and expect yourself to be "strong" and independent (I think this would resonate with your Saturn especially), like you don't "need" anyone; you're sort of resisting the fact that you have needs and desires and are not completely satisfied if they're not met..

Does that make sense to you?
Maybe it plays out differently, of course, but that's what comes to mind.

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oui, c'est vrai. C'est tout a fait ca,mais je n'aime pas l'accepter.Dans mes moments les plus noirs, ca me fend le coeur,mais je pense que Saturne m'aide a remonter quant meme.

posted June 26, 2013 07:51 AM            

Whats your pakshi and yoga?

Heres mine

posted June 26, 2013 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
C'est bien ce que je pensais.
Mais tu sais, tu n'es pas la seule à être comme ça, je te rassure..
Je pense qu'on doit s'accepter entièrement, même nos points les plus faibles, parce que les ignorer ne va pas rendre les choses plus facile.
Et de toute manière, on est tous humains et vulnérables, même si certaines personnes ont l'air de ne pas ressentir les choses aussi profondément.

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Mais non je m'accepte comme je suis. Mais je leve la bare trop haute a chaque fois,je pense..

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Moon sextile Chiron..
I guess the overall "theme" would be the same, but the potential for resolution is bigger.
It may be easier to see your own pain, accept it, and express it; thus the healing can come more easily, because you accept your weak spots and aren't afraid of "looking within" and seeing the open wounds.

It's easier to deal with your own vulnerability, because it doesn't scare you that much.
And when you've learnt how to heal yourself (even partially), you can help other people face their own pain and heal it, too.

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posted June 26, 2013 09:28 AM            

I've said if before, but we're all vulnerable.
That's part of being human and there's nothing wrong with admitting that.

posted June 26, 2013 09:44 AM            

I think am an owl

posted June 26, 2013 09:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Combine Chiron, Saturn and Pluto and you're basically gonna be unable to face your deepest fears & needs, until you're tired of feeling like a ball of repressed energy.

I've said if before, but we're all vulnerable.
That's part of being human and there's nothing wrong with admitting that.

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Put some new perspective to the expression ''going nuclear''

posted June 26, 2013 10:05 AM            

Sounds like being overly critical of yourself, negative thoughts about yourself, low ego or self confidence but with the moon trine you're more willing/able to connect with this pain....like you would feel it more?

posted June 26, 2013 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Combine Chiron, Saturn and Pluto and you're basically gonna be unable to face your deepest fears & needs, until you're tired of feeling like a ball of repressed energy.

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Shhhhh!

posted June 27, 2013 01:25 AM            

Are those aspects for someone you know? or are they yours? I'm guessing the internal struggles are amplified with an uranus sq to the sun. Uranus wants to liberate,free from any holds that you feel are tying you down,hindering your expression and soul advancement may be?

@SSS

''Do you find you are drawn into them with Aries Chiron? What part of your life do you find you experience Chiron the most, just internally, like a feeling of agony where you cannot pin point the exact cause? In a way, that sounds like a depression''

Yes, am drawn into conflicts no matter what I say,no matter how many times I change my behavior, no matter what I do, yes, I get into conflicts like a conflict attracting magnet.That's what get me most because my honest aim is to avoid conflicts, but no matter what I choose to do it's never the right course of action. I have conflicts in the area of the 4th house A LOT. It's indeed a difficult pain to pin down and analyze. I wish I could exorcise this pain once and for all. For me it's as if I eat breathe and sleep with an insidious depression.Being strong is not enough, it's something that needs to be addressed and be healed.

@Regulus

''hmmm...that's interesting...I think Saturn might indicate that kind of lifestyle...Chiron may be similar but in the end..you get some kind of happy release from it...that make sense?''