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Ceridwen
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posted June 28, 2013 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just been collecting
http://laraowen.com/articles/astrology/the-astrology-of-love-in-midlife/
http://www.astrostar.com/When-Will-You-Find.htm
http://starscopestoday.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/when-will-i-find-love-part-2-the-progressed-chart/
http://astropost.blogspot.de/2011/01/love-and-venus-in-progressed-chart.html
http://astrologystudy.blogspot.de/2010/12/when-will-you-marry.html

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posted June 28, 2013 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're the best

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Ceridwen
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posted June 28, 2013 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know.


No, wait, I meant to say: Thank you.

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posted June 28, 2013 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, after a reply like this, you definitely are


PS. Ohh is that a heart I'm seeing?! An Aqua Mooner put a heart! & I'm the one who made you do it, hehe :feels proud to have melted some of that ice:

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posted June 28, 2013 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know the date I met my x hubby, but around that time I had progressed Venus/moon conjunct SN.

I looked at my progressed the day we got married..

My progressed sun,mars were exactly conjunct my dsc.
Which is in Virgo.
My progressed moon was conjunct my moon,mercury, sun.. Which rules h5,6,7
Actually it had just past it, and was moving closer to my mars.

My dsc ruler. Which us mercury. Just progressed in the dsc ruler..
I.e.
My progressed mercury was at 0virgo


My progressed Venus is at 11leo.. Coming up to my mercury,moon, sun at 15/16 Leo

So what 3years.. I'll have to come back and let u know.. Lol

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posted June 29, 2013 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:

PS. Ohh is that a heart I'm seeing?! An Aqua Mooner put a heart! & I'm the one who made you do it, hehe :feels proud to have melted some of that ice:

As a matter of fact our heart is extremely fragile, and vulnerable, very easy to break, that is why we do anything to protect it and to not invite other people to stomp all over it. We don`t know how to recover.

But yeah, we do have a heart. lol

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posted June 29, 2013 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioness,


"y progressed sun,mars were exactly conjunct my dsc."
Definitely makes sense.


"My progressed Venus is at 11leo.. Coming up to my mercury,moon, sun at 15/16 Leo"
Guess you might be meeting love (in one form or the other) very soon then.

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posted June 29, 2013 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://rubyslipper.ca/2012/06/relationships-and-first-meetings-can-you-predict-them/

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posted June 29, 2013 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wondered if this would count:

When I actually met my bf, having already befriended him online, my pr Moon was exactly conjunct (down to the minute) his pr BML. Am probably missing other aspects but this one jumped out at me.

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posted June 29, 2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always keep my eyes out on BML, yes. Still in researching mode.

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posted June 29, 2013 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've noticed angles are quite prominent in progressions too, when it comes to attraction.

If someone catches my attention, I'll usually see one of their natal or progressed planets conjuncting my progressed angles (the IC / MC axis works, too).

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posted June 29, 2013 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux,

interesting that you say that.
I just noticed that his pr DESC is conjunct my Mars and natal ASC.
Maybe if that has waned, this obsession will, too.


Though speaking of obsession my pr Venus is exactly opposite his pr BML. lol

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posted June 29, 2013 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I met my SO, my natal venus was conjunct his progressed descendant & jupiter while his progressed venus was conjunct his natal sun.

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posted June 29, 2013 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met the father of my kids when..

Progressed Venus was sextile my natal Sun 1'37 degrees separating though.

He had Progressed Venus conjunct his natal Sun by 2 degrees applying.

Not sure what else really triggered it, but my transit Jupiter was conjunct my natal Venus.

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posted June 29, 2013 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empress, was there any significant touch in the progressed synastry also?

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posted June 30, 2013 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cappy,

sounds like very strong progressions.

I think, apart from progressed synastry, each one has to have some relevant natal progressions as well, to be in the right frame of mind maybe. Of course I am still trying to find out what exactly "relevant progressions" are.

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posted June 30, 2013 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Empress,

thank you for your contribution, too.
Since the sextile of Venus and Sun was separating by such a wide orb, I hesitate taking it really into consideration as "focal progression". Iam sure thre was something else at play, too, in the progressions.
Some other Venus, DESC, DEsc-ruler or even Mars progression.

I have had a peek at the couples in Paul Westran`s book; though it is of course about progressed synastry I was checking for the natal progressions. Just had a short peek, but it seems that it is not always Sun-Venus, but sometimes there were some Mars-progressions at play, too, (to Sun, Moon or Venus).

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posted June 30, 2013 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The progressed synastry was verry strong with us. Progr. venus within 1* appl. conj. progr. Mars for example (also in helio).

I'm now looking for some personal progressions.

Well, he had an *exact* (few minutes appl.) progressed Moon conjunct natal MC.

I had no idea that one could indicate a time to find love, but on CosmiTec they say this about it;


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Check the position of the progressed Sun or Moon

This rule is quite simple too if you want to know when to find love.

If you're a woman, check if the progressed Sun conjuncts your natal MC. Don't forget to take a look at the converse progressions too!

If you're a man, check if the progressed Moon conjuncts your natal MC. Don't forget to take a look at the converse progressions too!

Often, this way the Lights indicate when to find love when they culminate by bringing the archetypal male or female principle in the spotlight.



http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/when-to-find-love.html

Looking further..

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posted June 30, 2013 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The progressed synastry was verry strong with us. Progr. venus within 1* appl. conj. progr. Mars for example (also in helio)."
HOT.


"Well, he had an *exact* (few minutes appl.) progressed Moon conjunct natal MC."
While of course the MC always relates to a professional sphere as well, it seems to be a very reliable factor in relationships, too. Especially if Moon or Venus aspects it.
(or the DESC-ruler).

Though it seems to be more pertaining to relationships or encounter with stronger "comitment-factor" and thus often appears when someone gets married.
The emphasis is on the question if people can - at least for a time- go a way together, can merge their lives and goals in life, which might result in stable partnerships and the feeling of belonging to eacch other (while hte ASC-axis puts often more emphasis on the attraction in the here and now).
Of course if the progression wanes, it can be that what has been brought together is drifting apart as quickly.
The pr Moon is also moving very quickly, hence he makes a good timer, but if it is the only connection (and the natal synastry is not strong), then it might be very fleeting indeed.

As for cosmitec - oh well, I always like reading their articles, but have never found the simply equation "Sun = husband", "Moon=wife" to be true. At least not in the simple way it is said here.

I am still thinking about converse progressions. Haven`t made up my mind yet about them. Though If ind it interesting that as of now I have conv Venus conjunct conv Sun in Scorpio in 12th house, and being conjunct the transniting nodal axis.

Since converse progressions are commonly referred to as "more karmic", I guess this constellation must be EXTREMELY karmic then.

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posted June 30, 2013 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked the progressed synastry of my parents for when they met.
Since they had so many links, I put them into different categories.


I. angles
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her pr Jupiter conjunct his pr DESC exact
her pr Venus square his pr MC exact
her pr NN trine his pr MC (1a)


II. luminaries
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his pr Mecury-Venus-conjunct square her Sun exact

his pr Moon trine her n Sun exact
(and thus triggering her n Sun opposite his n Moon!)

her pr Mon square his n Mars-SN exact


III. Vertex and nodal axis
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her pr Venus conjunct his pr SN-
this was their tightest progression with only 0°01 orb

his pr Moon conjunct her pr NN 2,5a
his pr MC trine her pr NN 1a
her n Saturn conjunct his pr SN 1a
her na Jupiter conjunct his pr NN 2a
her pr Moon square his Nodes exact

her pr Uranus square his pr Vertex 1a
her pr Saturn conjunct his pr Antivertex 1s
his pr Vertex trine her pr Vertex exact
her n Juno trine his pr Vertex 1a


IV. Venus-progressions

her pr Venus conjunct his pr SN exact
his pr Venus sextile her pr Jupiter 1a
her pr Venus squaresh is pr MC exact
her n Venus conjuncts his pr Saturn 1a
his pr Venus square her n Sun exact

her pr Venus conjunct his na Mars 1,5 a

V. others

his pr Mars conjunct her pr Saturn 1a
(Mars rules his 8th house, Saturn rules her 7th and 8th house)

his pr Mercury sextle her pr Jupiter 1a

his pr BML trine her n Mars exact
his pr Uranus conjunct her n BML exact
her pr Saturn trine hsi n Jupiter exact
her p Mercury sextile his n Jupiter 1a
her pr Jupiter opposite his n Juno
her pr Moon square his n Mars exact

As you can see they had a DW of Mecury-Jupiter-sextile in their pr synastry. While I am still trying to figure out how strong a sextile really is, I remember that my mom told me that what set my Dad apart from other suitors was that they had an instant intellectual connection; they met in a discotheque, but quickly went outside and were discussing politics and especially the Vietnam war, realizing they could really talk with each other and had agreeable opinions on this matter (which was a big thing for both).

I think that would be fitting for a Mercury-Jupiter-aspect.


Also since her pr Jupiter was conjunct his pr DESC, this Mercury-Jupiter-aspect, even thouhgh "only" a sextile, would have been given "centre-stage".

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posted June 30, 2013 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At the time of meeting: I'll also divide into categories:

1) Angles
My pr. ASC trine His natal Moon EXACT
My pr. IC conjunct His natal Eros EXACT
His pr. ASC conjunct my pr. SN EXACT
His natal DSC conjunct my pr. Neptune EXACT
His natal ASC trine my pr. Sun EXACT
His natal ASC trine my pr. Venus EXACT
My natal ASC trine his pr. Jupiter EXACT
My natal ASC square his pr. Uranus EXACT
His natal ASC trine my pr. Sun EXACT
My natal IC conjunct his pr. SN EXACT
His pr. IC trine my pr. Moon EXACT
His natal IC square my pr. Moon EXACT

2) Luminaries

My pr. Sun trine his natal ASC EXACT
My pr. Sun conjunct his pr. Saturn 1,5a
His pr. Sun square my natal NN EXACT
My pr. Moon trine his pr. IC EXACT
My pr. Moon square his natal IC EXACT
My pr. Moon conjunct his pr. Chiron EXACT
My natal Moon opposite his pr. Moon 2,5s
His pr. Moon trine my natal Venus 1,5s
His pr. Moon square my natal Pluto EXACT
His pr. Moon trine my natal Mars 1,5s
His natal Sun square my pr. Uranus EXACT
His natal Sun trine my Pr. Juno EXACT
My natal Sun trine his Pr. Juno EXACT (!!!) An exact DW!

His natal Sun trine my pr. Valentine EXACT
His natal Moon opposite my pr. Chiron 1,5a
My natal Sun opposite his pr. Venus EXACT
My natal Moon square his pr. Saturn EXACT
His natal Moon conjunct my pr. NN 3a

3) Venus progressions

My pr. Venus trine his natal ASC EXACT
My pr. Venus sextile his pr./n. Jupiter EXACT
My pr. Venus conjunct his pr. Saturn 1,5a
My pr. Venus sextile his pr. Karma EXACT
My natal Venus square his pr. Jupiter 1a
His pr. Venus opposite my natal Sun EXACT
His pr. Venus square my pr. Saturn EXACT
His n. Venus trine my pr. Venus 2,5a
His n. Venus conjunct my pr./n. Karma EXACT

4) Nodal axis
My natal NN square his pr. Sun EXACT
My pr. NN square his pr. Mercury EXACT
My pr. SN conjunct his pr. ASC EXACT
His pr. NN conjunct my natal MC EXACT
My pr. NN conjunct his natal Moon 3a
His pr. SN conjunct my pr./n. Lilith EXACT

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posted June 30, 2013 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
natal progressions

my Dad
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pr DESC conjunct pr NN 2a-
this conjunction would be in 1 degree orb at their marriage and become exact in the first two years of marriage


pr MC square pr nodal axis

pr VEnus conjunct pr Mercury on 3 Aquarius exact

pr Jupiter opposite pr Pluto

pr ASC conjunct n Juno 1s (maybe his ASC is wrong about a degree then)

pr ASC trine n Sun exact
(though the pr ASC brought his natal Sun-Juno-trine into view)


pr Mercury and pr Venus conjunct n Sun in 5th house (2a)
- pr Mercury would be exactly conjunct n Sun at time of marriage, however pr Venus was stationary and would turn retograde


pr Moon conjunct n Vertex exact

pr BML square n Venus (1a)

my Mum`s natal progressions
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pr DESC trine pr Mars exact

pr MC on 29 Pisces and preparing for a new cycle

pr Juno trine pr Pluto 1a

pr Saturn, DESC-ruler, sextile pr Vertex exact

pr Vertex conjunct pr Mercury 2a


pr Moon conjunct n ASC 2a

pr Moon square n Saturn exact, (ASC and DESC-ruler)

pr ASC trine n Vertex exact

pr Mars conjunct n Moon 2a
pr Mars sextile n Vertex exact

pr Venus conjunct n Saturn 1a
(Saturn rules her DESC - and Ialso find it relevant that my Dad`s natal Saturn-ASC is exactly conjunct her natal Venus, thus she found exactly the man with whom she shared a synastry that mirrored her progression)


pr Sun conjunct n Vertex 2a

pr Vertex conjunct n Juno 2a
(probably her birthtime neds to be adjusted)


pr Mercury conjunct n Juno exact
(and taking place on my Dad`s IC)


pr IC conjunct n MOon exact


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posted June 30, 2013 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My personal progressions for when we got together were progressed sun opposite natal saturn & progressed venus square natal mars. Doesn't sound like the progressions someone would have when starting a relationship like his progressed venus conjunct his natal sun lol.

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posted June 30, 2013 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I remember that my mom told me that what set my Dad apart from other suitors was that they had an instant intellectual connection; they met in a discotheque, but quickly went outside and were discussing politics and especially the Vietnam war, realizing they could really talk with each other and had agreeable opinions on this matter (which was a big thing for both)

Wow, my mom told me about the same, and yea they were married for life (both passed away).

They lived in the same dorm (students) without *really* noticing each other and the real turn in there started when Hamlet (from Shakespeare) was on television and *they* were the only 2 out of many students that went to the basement (tv was there) to watch it .. WITH ..both their little but the same Hamlet-book in their hand, LITERALLY in-their-hand! So, without even knowing they had the same 'plan' at that specific moment in time.. and *that* became a turning point for both. So, an instant intellectual connection but also an instant trust she Always told me (she never experienced both before).

Unfortunately I don't know that exact moment in time, she even didn't know it herself when I asked her a few years ago and still alive.
But I remember she talked about march 1965...
(they married in '66 april)

But.. she also told me that she met my dad walking on the street one day (but I don't know if it was just *before* or *after* their Hamlet evening!) while she was crying... as she just found out her antillean 'lover' had another girl he slept with! So I guess she felt used and all that stuff.. while my dad told her that he was a real real RRREALl bad guy!! (he 'knew' him) LOL.

- his progr. Mars applying in a trine to her natal Venus (1,5).
- half a degree separating from her natal Venus, his progressed Sun (opp.)
- his progr. MC applying 0'30 to her progr. Jupiter (conj.)

some outstanding ones from march '65.

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